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Where to mount rossi s4

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snl093
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i just got these and i measures them cause they didnt seem equal length where do i mount these 0 or +5
i ski park all rails all jumps thats it
Nov 14 2011 12:35AM
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Doug.
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Centre if you just skiing park. So 0
Nov 14 2011 12:42AM
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snl093
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its weird tho i have them in front of me one side is longer than the other from the top of ski to 0 its like 35 inches from bottom of ski to 0 its 30 inches is this normal? 167 size btw
Nov 14 2011 12:47AM
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Doug.
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Maybe 0 on the ski is core centre not true centre that is all I could think it would be. Although that seems like a big difference.

True centre is the measured out exact centre point of the ski

and core centre is the thickest point of the core and the middle of the flex pattern
Nov 14 2011 1:14AM
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Doug.
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And I would recommend mounting true centre
Nov 14 2011 1:15AM
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snl093
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yeah thats what i want to do what do i tell them true center??
Nov 14 2011 1:40AM
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SickJib_Brit
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For rails and all that, it will make a world of difference if you have them mounted true 0.
Nov 14 2011 1:51AM
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Doug.
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Tell them true centre if they are at all a descent tech they should know what that is.

If they dont just explain that the centre of your boot needs to be at the exact centre of the ski. Ive measured it out and drawn a line before.
Nov 14 2011 1:53AM
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wheezy
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The +5 mark is core center, it's 1.5cm back from true center. I had mine mounted there and loved them (skiing 95% park equal jumps and rails)... Had Absolutly no problems with swing weight or on rails, and they carved an edge extremely well. hope that helps
Nov 14 2011 9:26AM
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BWalmer
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Get a measuring tape, measure the entire length of the ski, then divide by 2, measure out that length and put a piece of masking tape down around that area, then draw a line with a shapie or other marker on that tape EXACTLY at center (have of the full length of the ski...use cm, and be as exact as possible, like down to the mm if you can). Repeat for the other ski (then make sure the lines match up when the skis are put next to each other with the tip and tail matching), and bring them to the shop and say "I want them mounted there" and point to the line on the tape. This will make sure it's mounted exactly where you want because it's very difficult to mess that up and if they do you have a very good argument since you drew a line for them.
Nov 14 2011 10:14AM
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SKI.ING
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^Is it better to draw lines on both skis? Whenever I've mounted before I only have one line drawn for one ski and I guess they match it up? I've just always been afraid of my 2 measurements being off by a tiny bit so I let them just match it. Is this okay or is two lines better?
Nov 14 2011 1:23PM
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BWalmer
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When I measure I also double an sometimes triple check it, is I know I'm right. I think its more fool proof for them, not that I'm worried about any shop techs I deal with, but sometimes try get tired and make mistakes (especially at the beginning of the season when they have TONs of skis to mount up).
Nov 14 2011 1:44PM
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TOAST.
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you dont always talk to the tech when you drop off skis. (at least here in PA) so its best to just make it idiot proof and do what flashkick said instead of risking dealing with extra holes in your skis.
Nov 14 2011 2:28PM
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BWalmer
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This is good point. Also, if you're buying the skis and bindings at the same time and can't measure before mounting, or if you're unsure of anything, ask to speak directly to the tech, you're paying a lot of money to get them mounted, you want them to do it right and speaking directly to the tech who's going to mount your skis will also help you get them done right.
Nov 14 2011 2:49PM
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Doug.
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Thats what I said with the second half of my post.
Nov 14 2011 4:11PM
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Doug.
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But I always talk to the tech when im going to get my skis mounted. I want to make sure they know what they are doing.
Nov 14 2011 4:14PM
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Doug.
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Sorry for the triple post haha but ive had a tech ask me if i want the toe piece mounted on the line ive drawn before. So its not completely idiot proof. Best to talk to the tech if your worried about them fucking up.
Nov 14 2011 4:17PM
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snl093
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ok so should i mount at 0 or +5 wouldn't 0 be best since its middle of flex patterns?  and +5 is closer to the top of ski than 0 is
Nov 14 2011 6:43PM
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snl093
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i already said it but from o bottom half is shorter han top half how come?? still 0 or do +5?
Nov 14 2011 6:49PM
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BWalmer
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That depends, everyone I've known who's ridden that ski (both sponsored and unsponsored) ride them at true center and love them there. They say it doesn't lose any carve performance, and I have ridden a pair at true center and they were awesome there. Since you plan on straight park with them, I'd go with true measured center (not sure what the mounting point of that is on those skis). But, it's really up to you.
Nov 14 2011 6:51PM
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snl093
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so exactly at 0 on the ski?? but also i just measure them thre 66.7 inches and the middle is 32.85
Nov 14 2011 6:56PM
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BWalmer
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zero doesn't mean true center, that's core center, which is most likely set back from true center. True center is the measure center of the ski.
Nov 14 2011 7:30PM
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SKI.ING
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I don't understand your grammar OP, but what your asking for is true center and in the simplest terms is to measure your whole ski length, divide it by 2, and then mount at that position. That is if your settled on true center as I can't really understand what your saying still. Goodluck though
Nov 14 2011 7:57PM
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snl093
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well on the ski only 2 points 0 and  +5 true center isnt on there i measured it it is right between those to kinda close to the 0 mark
Nov 14 2011 8:25PM
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BWalmer
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I guess I'm confused on what you're looking for...you know you can mount it anywhere on the ski...it doesn't have to be on a marked spot...plus, sometimes the graphics are in the wrong spot and the marking could be off...go with a measured point.
Nov 14 2011 8:37PM
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RyandaGod
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Just mounted up my scratches and scimitars center, as in true center. On the scratches the center was about 1.5 ahead of the +5 mark. I would just take the advice of flash and measure out with a measuring tape,press down the tape to the contour of the ski and mark dead cnter. Gl, it shouldn't be that hard
Nov 14 2011 8:42PM
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wheezy
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If you scroll up and read my earlier post your question will be answered.

the +5 mark is the CORE CENTER... It is 1.5cm BACK from TRUE CENTER

i.e. if you want it mounted at true center then you will be mounting about 1.5 cms infront of the +5 mark.

I wouldn't recommend mounting any futher back from the +5 (eg towards the 0 mark) unless you are planning to use the ski for mostly all mountain skiing, which in the OP you said you're not.

Nov 14 2011 8:55PM
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snl093
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so i have size 167 and they are 66.7 inches long the exact middle of ski is 32.85 which is in the middle of +5 and 0 but i should go on the +5 or a little above it??
Nov 14 2011 9:07PM
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snl093
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how about this all those all park riders thats it all park where you mount these +5?
Nov 14 2011 9:14PM
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BWalmer
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you need some commas in there....cause that's really confusing.


I'm going to say this again....STOP CARING ABOUT THE MARKINGS ON THE SKIS!!! If you want it to be True Center, simply measure out true center and have them mounted there...I don't get why you're so caught up on the markings on the ski...

Unless you're not sure if you want true center, again, your sentences make no sense so I can't quite tell what you're looking for.

And, I think you're asking about people that ride 100% park with these skis, where do they mount them, and I'll tell you that probably about 85%-90% or more of them mount at True Center (the measured center on the ski, so it's NOT on the mounting chart).
Nov 14 2011 9:20PM
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snl093
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yeah i want true center and sorry im 14 haha! so i have 167 measure the whole ski divide by 2 and thats where i mount them??
Nov 14 2011 9:23PM
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BWalmer
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yes, true center is the halfway point of the ski. Also, I would recommend measuring in centimeters if possible, since that's the standard unit of measure in skis.
Nov 14 2011 9:27PM
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ZAHNER
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i have 167 s4 squindos the 08/09's


TRUE CENTER is where its at
Nov 14 2011 9:36PM
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snl093
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ok so dont go off the +5 marking go off its measurement ok but to ask will it be bad if i just go off +5?
Nov 14 2011 9:38PM
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