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Full Tilt Pain

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xoxxooxo
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So i just got my first pair of full tilts (booters) and walking around the house in them after about 10 minutes my shins start hurting so much that I have to take them off. I am not just pussing out and realize that boots take a bit to break in but this isn't a normal pain. I loose feeling in my toes and my shins literally fee like they have been hit with a hammer. Are full tilts just simply not for me or has anyone else experienced similar problems?
Nov 7 2011 3:29PM
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SteezoSaurus
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I had the same problems with mine at first. I got some booster straps for them though and the pain has gone away almost completely.
Nov 7 2011 3:36PM
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DOSE.
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this is most likely it. you can get them punched out to fit your feet by a bootfitter, but i would say although some pain usually comes when you put on your boots for the first time, this sounds way worse than normal.
Nov 7 2011 3:37PM
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onenerdykid
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You did not get get fit for these, did you?
Nov 7 2011 3:40PM
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xoxxooxo
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Yeah i did and in the shop they felt great, as i said I have to wear them for more than 10 minutes and the pain slowly starts, it then quickly becomes unbearable and I imagine on the slopes they won't fair any better. I feel like it is the tongue being to skinny, towards the top of the boot the pressure from the narrow tongue really starts to hurt.
Nov 7 2011 3:46PM
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FearTheBeard.
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This happened for me too when i first got them. after they pack out a little bit (i suggest getting them heat molded) they should be fine. also try to work them in a lot by standing still and putting a bunch of forward pressure into the tongue/front of the boot to flex it. that helped me a lot.
hope all that helps.


and yes, i did get fitted for them too.
Nov 7 2011 3:54PM
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xoxxooxo
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That was my next question, the problem is if i get them heat moulded and they still kill my feet I can't take them back and that would really suck. How much did it change the comfort of them in your guys experience?
Nov 7 2011 4:00PM
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onenerdykid
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Having fit FT's for a number of years, I can definitely tell you that something is not right with your set up. Take them back to the shop and have them figure what is wrong.
Nov 7 2011 4:00PM
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xoxxooxo
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So not what I wanted to hear seeing as I had my dad pick them up in America and I live in Switzerland. Gonna be so annoying to get them back but I think you could be right. If i maybe give them a few days wearing them in the house to see if they pack out a bit they will still take them back right?
Nov 7 2011 4:11PM
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onenerdykid
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I haven't seen your foot in the boot, so I don't know what exactly the problem is. But why did you not buy them when you tried them on? The shop would have heat molded them and done the rest of the fitting process for you...

The shipping back to the USA will be about the same as the boot...
Nov 7 2011 4:15PM
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xoxxooxo
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Long story but basically because with the exchange rate the way it is, it works out that for a pair of full tilt booters over here you are paying around $700........shameful. I got fitted over here and couldn't justify spending that amount when my dad was going to be in america the following week on a business trip.

inb4 I hate people that try on boots in the shop and then buy them elsewhere
Nov 7 2011 4:31PM
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Session
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So....you really didn't get fitted.
Nov 7 2011 5:31PM
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xoxxooxo
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The boots are produced identically the world over, the fact that I bought a different boot than the exact one I was fitted in is irrelevant. So ........ I did get fitted
Nov 7 2011 5:37PM
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SteezoSaurus
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But did you get the Intuition liners fitted? As in getting them heat molded? That is a pivotal step in having FTs. If you don't have that, they can really suck.
Nov 7 2011 5:47PM
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xoxxooxo
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No i didn't cause I was afraid it would void the warranty. Just got off the phone with them and they said I can still return them. So it does make a really noticeable difference when you get it done. I had a pair of Nordicas before this and got them heat moulded, the difference was minimal. I take it getting the intuition liners moulded is significant?
Nov 7 2011 5:54PM
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FearTheBeard.
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Oh yeah, HUGE difference. at least for me, getting them heat molded (i skied in them a couple weeks beforehand, and it was fairly painful.) it went from a pretty uncomfortable boot to feeling like i'm wearing snowboots or slippers or something equally comfortable. enormous difference, IMHO.
Nov 7 2011 6:52PM
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rudager
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Heat mold them. It'll be worth it.
You've gone through such a great deal of tasks to get these boots to you, have them molded.

My First Chairs were like that, got them fitted, felt great. Skied one day in them, was alright. Then got them fitted, SO MUCH BETTER!

I also had to punch them out a little, since my one foot is just a little bit wider then the others. They are the bees knees now.
Nov 7 2011 8:02PM
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ARMADAR7
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I had the exact same problem!! I got fitted and the were so uncomfortable i couldent have the on fr 15 minutes without excrutiating pain in my shins. The guy at the shop told me to get them molded and at first i was very nervouse but as soon as they get heat molded the pain will go away at least thats what happend to me
Nov 7 2011 8:31PM
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skier_boy26
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Intuition liners are not meant to be used "out of the box." The ones with full tilts are prelasted, which is a different way of saying they wont fit your feet until you cook them. Go to a shop that can mould then, because it is essential
Nov 7 2011 10:05PM
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Session
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Bootfitting is more than shoving a hunk of plastic on your feet. A good boot fitter will spend time with you and do whatever tweaks on the boot you need to make it just right.
Nov 7 2011 10:31PM
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BerGNARdo
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my new full tilts feel a little tight and uncomfortably for the first 5 minutes i wear/walk around with them, then i forget I'm wearing them because they are so comfortably and there are no pressure points.

It was about the same with my old full tilts. However, literally the entire first 15 days I put on them were excruciating (while skiing, they were fine to wear). The next 100 days were fantastic. Like actually wondering if it isn't tiny clouds holding me to my Caylors.

I don't know anything at all about bootfitting, but I can't imagine they would work for anyone that has that much pain before even skiing them. It would really be a huge bummer to try and get through those first two weeks (or two months, depends how much you ski), only to realize that you really have a pair of boots that doesn't work for you.

I'd try and get your money back and buy a boot from a reputable local shop that will make sure you end up with a pair of boots that fit right.
Nov 7 2011 11:44PM
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xoxxooxo
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I realize this and the guy in the shop was very informative and helpful. I know generally when a boot fitter is spraffing and when he knows what he is doing and this guy was plugged in.
Nov 8 2011 4:29AM
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cwillygood
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yeah that def doesnt sound like a good boot for you then, i never had that problem with any of my pairs of fts, usually it hurts little when packing them in but that doesnt sound right
Nov 8 2011 6:29AM
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xoxxooxo
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Right so today i got them heat moulded to my feet and you are right there is a noticeable difference. There are no longer and pressure points but the boot is just so tight. Especially around the calf it is just tight, i can wear them now around and stuff but is this just how full tilts feel before you get them on the slopes? Especially where my calves are, the pressure is pretty severe, not painful, just very VERY noticeable almost to the point of getting pins and needles in my calve.
Nov 8 2011 12:12PM
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.nasty
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pivotal step? please, if a full tilt boot REALLY fits your foot you shouldn't even have to heat mold. Honestly if you're fitted for the right boot you'll never have to heat mold. I never have and have had many different boots fit me without any pain.
Nov 8 2011 12:18PM
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xoxxooxo
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So lesson of the day, FT just not for me? fuck man
Nov 8 2011 12:59PM
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.nasty
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well I could also just be really lucky. ha, never considered that...
Nov 8 2011 1:02PM
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rudager
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I'd get them molded to see how try fit. Intuition liners can always be molded a second time if they end up not being for you. You can sell them in euro land.
Nov 8 2011 1:09PM
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Balto
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so you are saying you didn't wear them for even 10 min in the shop? God you are stupid...

pro tip: when trying on boots at a shop, wear them for AT LEAST 30 min
Nov 8 2011 1:22PM
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Big_Spence
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you obviously should have gotten the Drop Kicks.
Nov 8 2011 1:28PM
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xoxxooxo
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I realize you goofy little cunt. It was not by choice that I left then, that was all the time the fitter could afford me and as detailed earlier my situation is unusual as I had to have them bought in a different country. The process was admittedly rushed as I did not have the liberty of casually browsing a line of full tilts in a shop minutes from my house. I just did the best with what I could get and am now trying to determine if I have indeed got the wrong boots or if this is just how full tilts fit. I am not stupid
Nov 8 2011 1:46PM
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Big_Spence
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you think all full tilts are so uncomfortable that they can't be worn for more than 10 minutes in your house? then i think you are stupid.
Nov 8 2011 1:49PM
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Balto
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Actually yes, yes you are. You do not need someone sitting there as you wear a pair of boots, just say you want to get a better feel for them, and browse the shop for a while. Your excuses are just that, excuses, poor ones at that. When you get fitted, you should dedicate quite a few hours to it, as boots are the most important piece of gear you will buy and will make or break your skiing. Who cares if the shop isn't 10 min from your house, I drove 6 hours round trip to get fitted last, where I spent 6-7 hours trying on and feeling out many different boots. it sounds like you were just being another trendy kid that got FT's because that is what everyone else likes. Getting the wrong boots should never happen, that shows that you did not get properly fitted by someone who actually knows what they are doing and that you bought something based purely on word of mouth. Great job waisting a bunch of money and have fun with your shin pain, maybe you will learn something from this failed experience.
Nov 8 2011 1:56PM
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Nov 8 2011 2:04PM
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xoxxooxo
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Fuck it i can't be arsed thread/
Nov 8 2011 4:43PM
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CRiP
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i tried on booters a week ago and felt the same way. it literally felt like someone was sawing into my shins when i leaned forward. theyre just not for me i guess. i got some atomics instead
Nov 8 2011 5:25PM
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Film.
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This has happened to me just loosing them up and it should help a lil bit. But full tilts just might not be for you like me ,I just didnt like them some days they would be great and some days my feet hurt sooo bad.
Nov 8 2011 6:46PM
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gharlam
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Booster straps and heat molding, all that you need. I didn't experience pain like you were talking about as quickly, but on the hill it was the exact same way with my first pair. Definitely get them heat molded, and if it isn't 100% better get some boosters....and if it is 100% better, still think about shooting for 110% and get boosters
Nov 8 2011 6:54PM
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ApologyForPoetry
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Put them in the oven. I had mine fitted, and they felt good, but there was a pressure point at the top of the left boot. A local dealer told me to heat mold them myself in my oven, because the liner would then be heated on the outside as well. I put a piece of iron right at the pressure point when I got them on, and that piece made the pressure point go away. I'm now skiing on clouds.

BUT if you're having problems with your chins, that might not work out as well as my situation did. The dealer I bought my Hot Doggers from wrote me a note that he would take the boots back if the plan failed as well...
Nov 11 2011 6:24PM
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Big_Spence
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this for sure.
Nov 11 2011 11:23PM
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TOAST.
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i lost.
Nov 12 2011 12:14AM
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Finkle
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how many feet do you have?!?!   http://www.webmd.com
Nov 12 2011 1:30PM
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