i don't know, when i think hardcore, i think of skinny emo tight-clothes wearing 19 year olds with huge spacers.
and those queers who wave their fists around in the pit. why cant yall mosh like normal people?
but im probably just steriotyping, i dont really know hardcore that much. i like a lot of the sumerian bands.
this is the only hardcore band i actually have an album of, and i pretty much hate it.