Line Afterbangs.. Have some questions

They are really heavy.

The problem is the the constriction. The skate deck allows water to get in, which makes them heavier, and more prone to delams. As far as jumps, they can, but they are too soft to handle anything really big. And they are not good on anything out of the park. They are basically made for urban, where you can destroy them and replace them easily. Get the chronics for a better ski

Return them and buy real skis.

Not entirely true at all......I ride last years step-up (the stake deck one) and this years abangs. They are definitely on the heavy side for park. As for water logging, I've never had any issue whatsoever......I just leave my skis inside, not covered in crap/snow in a ski box or a frozen garage. They are not too soft for medium to large jumps, maybe if you send 80 footers they'll be iffy, but jumps 50ft and smaller you'll be ok. (both the mastermind and blend are softer than abangs). Where I do agree is the urban type/park only description.....because it's true. And the they are meant to be destroyed and replaced...but that's also why they retail for less. (Oh and my last years stepups are in great shape, beat to hell and top sheet destroyed, but still in one piece and riding great after last season in vt, spring/early summer at squaw and many fall rail jams)

This/thread. They are shit slow & heavy. Good for urban & thats it.

1. Yes. If you want a nimble ski, the afterbangs are not it. If you want to wind up and spin around a lot all in the same direction on a box, then they will be fine. But as I said, they are heavy, and the weight is noticeable.

2. Yes. Mine bent and got waterlogged by early March.

3. I guess so. They aren't good for it, but they can hold an edge well enough, and you can play around with em.

4. The one thing good about them (in my opinion) was that they have a great flex pattern. Nice, soft tips and tails, but stiff underfoot, so you can stomp things without worrying about washing out. I wouldn't want to use them for big jumps, but Max Hill has, so I guess you can use them for big shit.

1. are they to heavy? i do LOTSA boxes and rails, and Jumps (but not as much). so are to heavy for learning new tricks for rails?-Mine didn't get too bad, they are heavier than some skis, but I didn't notice it much

2. do they really only last a season?- I'm going on my second season in 3 weeks, so you tell me

3. can they handle anything besides the park?- Not really

4. what are they like for jumps, can they handle big crap?- Not really

What I learned is that you are dealing with a very floppy rail ski. Mine held up good enough to ski another season with just a few base gouges and topsheet chips. I enjoyed mine and had no complaints, I ski all rails and live on the east coast

+K to you nebula and to ALL. i just hope they last i dont have a job to buy new skis after a season.....

as for the waterlog thing it happens to some people and some not, well see what happens to mine