First off all, I would like to start out by admitting that I was a bit to hasty in this transaction and didn't do my due diligence researching the pant and its going price.
However,
Goonerville11 has acted in one of the most spineless and juvenile ways I have ever seen during this whole situation.
Our contact started when he offered to sell me size Large G-Suit Pants. I of course asked for some pics which he sent to my phone, He then described them as such "LARGE but huge! like huge....and good overall cuffs are torn up a bit
and one big tear but if you buy them ill have my seamstress mommy fix
them perfect :)" I can assure you this is not the case, these are the pics of what they actually look like.
Notice the entire lack of the shin pocket. I'd hardly say these are in "good overall" shape.
When I got them i immeadately realized these were not in the shape i needed them to be, but knowing Gooner was having cash issues i offered to try and sell them so he could keep the cash ($200), he agreed and I said I would try for a little while to sell them. A little while passed and no decent offers, so i contacted him again and he totally denied our agreement. All of this is in more detail in my pm's with him, so if you would please look over our conversation.
Latest messages are at the top, older are at the bottom.
Date Sent: Nov 2 2011 22:14:41 - (not read)
Yo you owe me a pocket for the Gpants.
Date Sent: Oct 24 2011 01:18:34 - (read)
Okay
Date Sent: Oct 24 2011 00:45:33 - (read)
That is solidly the weakest logic I have ever heard. It's happened to me so I can do it to you... that's fucking weak.
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:33:56 - (read)
Pretty sure it's happened to me like 4 times man....shit sucks...you offered that much I wasn't even planning on selling them
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:27:00 - (read)
Im sure ud be stoked after getting shafte for $200 as
well. I've been very understanding an given u every chance to fix this
situation. I gave u months yo make some money, tried to sell these
things, i've done everything possible. And only now am i getttig angry.
Dont try that bullshit
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:24:21 - (read)
Yes you have been nothing but a joy to deal with also
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:22:45 - (read)
Which would be great if that was true. Unfortunately ur
sense of reality seems to be offf. U told me about the ripped cuffs not
the overall shitty shape of thr fabric. I tried to help u out and u did
nothing but act like an asshole. No respectable guy would act in the
manner u have.
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:22:40 - (read)
Which would be great if that was true. Unfortunately ur
sense of reality seems to be offf. U told me about the ripped cuffs not
the overall shitty shape of thr fabric. I tried to help u out and u did
nothing but act like an asshole. No respectable guy would act in the
manner u have.
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:22:32 - (read)
Which would be great if that was true. Unfortunately ur
sense of reality seems to be offf. U told me about the ripped cuffs not
the overall shitty shape of thr fabric. I tried to help u out and u did
nothing but act like an asshole. No respectable guy would act in the
manner u have.
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:19:59 - (read)
Because i told you they were shit
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:14:00 - (read)
Why are u such a prick
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:10:53 - (read)
K it's not gonna do anything man...
Date Sent: Oct 23 2011 20:08:11 - (read)
Thesethingsarent selling. Ivd hotten pms from others saying urplayin the same games. Calling u outin the morning.
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 21:38:56 - (read)
they're dingy as shit ur delusional.
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:35:39 - (read)
they arent dingy bro....your way fucking over exaggerating
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:29:10 - (read)
It's not the stains. Those things are trashed all over.
Dingy, stained, discolored, all nasty. Why can't you just lock into
one thing.
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:28:05 - (read)
two tiny ass stains I overlooked is not that big! even the guy who sold them to me said he had no idea
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:26:42 - (read)
You keep going back on what your saying. I'm being the
nice guy here, giving you all the time you need to refund me, you have
admitted to me you didn't decribe them properly, stop flip-floping man.
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:25:17 - (read)
dude i told you in the fucking pms they were trashed! I never even came close to saying they are in "shining glory"
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:24:30 - (read)
No its not. I paid $200 selling them for $100 means I'm
taking a $100 loss. Trading them just means I turned that $100 in pants
it does nothing to alleviate the loss. And there's no dry cleaning
thats gonna get those things back to their former glory. Like I said I
can wait, I was just seeing how things were going.
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:22:27 - (read)
its not a hundred dollar loss man...its the same as
trading! and its 2 stains that if you go dry clean them they will be
shiny white
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:20:45 - (read)
Yeah but we've had this talk before. Those pants are
pretty trashed, more so than you told me, therefore if i ever sold them I
would be taking a $100 loss, which I'm not in a position to absorb.
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:18:46 - (read)
How do you think haha bro it's really not that hard to
find magic pants! I saw some sell for 60 bucks last week! If you asked
for 100 bucks for the g pants they would sell instantly then buy magic
pants and it's just like trading!
Date Sent: Oct 5 2011 18:06:59 - (read)
How u doing financially?
Date Sent: Sep 29 2011 00:05:01 - (read)
Ya as gay as it sounds...model them
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 21:51:31 - (read)
I'm getting my t3i on sunday. Will do.
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 21:19:57 - (read)
Take good pics! Last ones made the pant itself look ugly
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 21:14:03 - (read)
Just threw a for trade thread up, I'll keep you updated.
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 20:36:40 - (read)
Word
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 20:25:42 - (read)
Yeah its fair to say we were both a bit too hasty on this one. We'll get it sorted out though.
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 20:12:07 - (read)
Sorry man should have been better described on my
Part...I'm one of those dgaf and wear dirty torn ripped up shit
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 20:10:31 - (read)
I'm a bit of a freak in regards to the condition of my
gear. Maybe its a lil OCD but if theres like a stains or mark on
anything I'm wearing it makes me super uncomfortable. I just can't deal
with the dinginess of em. If I can trade them then all of this talk is
pointless but we'll see.
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 19:53:17 - (read)
Ya man I honestly wasn't trying to shaft you! I just
sincerely don't have the money....yes I should have held to word but I
didn't think you would have a problem with them! Why don't you rock
them?
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 19:50:29 - (read)
So december? Because I'll continue to try and move
them(once my add media button works) until then and then if need be we
can refund?
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 19:47:38 - (read)
Closest would be a few months cause I have passes and skis to pay off
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 19:19:50 - (read)
no lawns to cut? no nothing?
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 17:51:48 - (read)
I really can't
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 17:26:26 - (read)
There's gotta be someway to make some money. I mean I'm
willing to wait, I'll tape it up and have it ready to go, I would just
hope you'd be good for it.
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 17:00:50 - (read)
Im jobless...you can call me out If it makes you feel better I just don't have cash!
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 16:18:37 - (read)
are you gonna have any any time soon?
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 13:17:37 - (read)
I don't have any money
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 12:21:58 - (read)
Man just give me my money back, I told you I didn't
like the condition when I first got them. I knew you were having money
struggles so I helped you out and said I'd try to move em, that isn't
gonna work. So now I would hope you would do the right thing and give me
my money back, I'll ship em too you I just want my money.
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 09:08:20 - (read)
You offered 200 I didn't ask for that much...obviously
if they are torn to shit they aren't gonna be perfect white...thats
common sense.
Date Sent: Sep 28 2011 06:36:32 - (read)
Where did you say that. Man these things are trashed
even my little sister can see that. They sure as hell aren't in the
condition to be worth $200.
Date Sent: Sep 27 2011 23:54:16 - (read)
Cause 2 stains I didnt see? Even the kid who sold them to me said today they were nbd at all...I told you they were beat...
Date Sent: Sep 27 2011 20:08:56 - (read)
Is their anyway you can get the cash man? I really am not happy with these pants.
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 19:02:45 - (read)
That's bullshit man. I don't wanna be a dick here, but
this is a shitty situation you have put me in man. I want my money back,
I'm willing to wait, but if I don't get some resolution I'm gonna have
to call you out.
You've been a good guy in the past, I didn't expect you to be so
nonrecpetive in this situation. Please do the right thing here. I
discussed this matter with you earlier in the month after recieveing the
pants and agreed to wait so you could pay off your ticket, I would hope
you would be so cooperative.
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 18:12:11 - (read)
Well I don't have 200 bucks no matter how much we argue
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 17:59:16 - (read)
Also your argument about pictures is utter bullshit,
I'm not gonna ask about a random point of the pants on a whim that there
may be stains there. You sold them, it was your responsibility to look
over your product and make sure they were in a condition that you would
be willing to sell. Don't try and back peddle on what you've all ready
said I helped you out and you are being nothing but difficult.
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 17:57:22 - (read)
Your missing the point. And check your messages you
agreed to what we worked out, I shoulda sent them back as soon as I saw
how wrecked they were. I gave you the benefit of the doubt knowing you
were in a money crunch, your now betraying that trust.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU IS I NEVER TOOK SOMEONE ELSES MONEY.
Don't make me ruin you good standing on this site, no one needs that.
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 17:18:13 - (read)
I sent you all the pics you asked for....you made a for
sale thread with the same info as I put...I didn't even know about the
stains! You did! Making you an even bIgger tool
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 17:03:28 - (read)
I have pics of em. I didn't sell to the kid. Why would
someone, who is self described as someone who makes a living buying and
sellling on NSer's become a sketchbag. I'll ship em back to you just
give me my $200 back.
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 17:00:08 - (read)
What cause the stains? Well guess what kid you didn't write that in your thread so you are just as bad
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 16:39:39 - (read)
We talked about this earlier and had an agreement man. The pants weren't as described dont get sketchy.
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 13:00:58 - (read)
Why cause magic pants won't come around? A month later I don't have the cash...
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 12:40:36 - (read)
ok. ill try and get the thread together if not im gonna have to send em back.
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 12:31:06 - (read)
It acts up sometimes
Date Sent: Sep 26 2011 11:41:51 - (read)
is your add media button broken?
Date Sent: Sep 25 2011 20:11:13 - (read)
I'll try that. I'll give it maybe a week more and then we'll have to talk again.
Date Sent: Sep 25 2011 19:20:32 - (read)
make a thread just for them
Date Sent: Sep 25 2011 18:19:30 - (read)
yo man im really struggling to move these gpants, they're a bit to beat it seems.
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 17:37:53 - (read)
Thanks
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 17:16:43 - (read)
yeah no its all good. just wanted to make sure you
weren't getting flaky on me. I'll try and move em, so you can keep the
cash. but if not we'll have to work something out.
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 17:11:08 - (read)
Ya man sorry homie! I honestly didn't know! I just got them in the mail
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 17:10:12 - (read)
i dont neccesarily wanna do that to you. i no u were
having some cash issues. I'll see what i can do with them in the next
week and ill pm u then, if ur okay with that.
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 17:07:35 - (read)
Then I'll buy them back.
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 17:05:39 - (read)
nah u were selling it was ur responsibilty to describe
all damages. these dont look like they're going anyways. u no that a
pant can only be washed so many times, dont try that.
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 17:04:10 - (read)
Try it or dont complain! Come on now
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 17:00:18 - (read)
nah i dont no about that
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 16:59:40 - (read)
yeah whats ur number again?
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 16:59:07 - (read)
Pop them in the wash! They should come Right out! Be sure to flip them inside out
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 16:57:42 - (read)
For real? Can I see pics of it?
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 16:55:56 - (read)
yeah the vent area and the mid leg have some real nasty yellow stains
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 16:52:53 - (read)
Stains on the vents?
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 16:09:57 - (read)
your right about the cuts but what about the stain on the vents?
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 16:08:01 - (read)
The g suit pants? I said they were torn up man! I clearly said it!
Date Sent: Sep 9 2011 15:35:16 - (read)
got the pants. cant say im 100% stoked on the condition. there are stains and cuts that you failed to describe to me.
Date Sent: Sep 3 2011 17:24:21 - (read)
shit that woulda worked great.
Date Sent: Sep 3 2011 17:18:16 - (read)
I don't think I have any extras either sorry man
Date Sent: Sep 3 2011 17:16:25 - (read)
some headphones would b bomber. mine just died.
Date Sent: Sep 2 2011 22:10:51 - (read)
I'll find something man
Date Sent: Sep 2 2011 21:59:40 - (read)
yeah with a freebie itll be ookay whatcha got?
Date Sent: Sep 2 2011 17:55:49 - (read)
damn it! she is still in san diego til sunday! Is that okay man?? Ill throw in a freebie for the wait!
Date Sent: Sep 2 2011 17:41:42 - (read)
great
Date Sent: Sep 2 2011 13:50:45 - (read)
Today hopefully m
Date Sent: Sep 2 2011 13:11:12 - (read)
is she sowed up yet?
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 15:27:38 - (read)
great thanks.
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 14:39:03 - (read)
My mom is gonna sew them either today or tommorrow then have them out
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 14:20:14 - (read)
yeah haha when u shipping?
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 13:53:46 - (read)
Ya but I like to have one haha
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 13:50:18 - (read)
destin royer
you dont really need a name to ship
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 12:18:51 - (read)
Name? Haha
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 12:16:35 - (read)
money sent. address is:
32 Old Lakeside Rd.
Hewitt, NJ
07421
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 09:28:00 - (read)
Oh awesome! Skibands@gmail.com
Date Sent: Aug 31 2011 08:58:54 - (read)
money just transfered. whats the paypal?
Date Sent: Aug 30 2011 23:26:56 - (read)
g pants?
Date Sent: Aug 28 2011 00:44:14 - (read)
Ya I'm going for like 80 days all summer
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 22:33:34 - (read)
not bad. hopefully i can get to hood this season
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 22:32:10 - (read)
I day trip every saturday so I get about 20 days a year+ hood in the summer
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 22:28:25 - (read)
ahh so those are like full weekends at least.
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 22:17:19 - (read)
Like 9 hours haha closer to bear mountain in cali which is 5 hours
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:48:21 - (read)
how far are u from the spots in nm?
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:37:24 - (read)
Ya we have 2 sucky mountains
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:36:52 - (read)
yeah same here minus actual mountains
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:36:23 - (read)
ya but december-april only
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:27:08 - (read)
dont you have some legit stuff out there tho?
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:22:07 - (read)
Ya well I get it everyday...I live in az bro think of me.
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:21:13 - (read)
thanks for the reminder of how far of the snow is haha
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:18:29 - (read)
See right off the back you got an offer...you got 5 months still
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:09:02 - (read)
yeah just a matter of finding a pair in good shape.
some kid is offering small ones and a yellow mojave, but im not sure if theyll fit well
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:03:59 - (read)
Will do! And shouldn't be a problem moving it
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 21:02:18 - (read)
yeah. hopefully i can move em for magic pants soon.
also if you come by a nice black jacket, hmu im looking for one.
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 20:57:45 - (read)
Awesome!
Date Sent: Aug 27 2011 20:44:15 - (read)
ill have cash monday.
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 13:38:51 - (read)
haha gotcha.
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 13:20:40 - (read)
Cause I still have no money now haha
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 12:31:35 - (read)
not bad still. why u selling if the ticket's paid off?
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 12:30:49 - (read)
Nah tonight probably...probably just XL saga beaverfur pants, XL varsity jacket, jiberish bees knees, a tall RMU skis hoodie
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 12:27:16 - (read)
is it up?
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 12:24:37 - (read)
Not with the pants anymore...other stuff ya
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 11:49:49 - (read)
yeah r u still making the thread?
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 11:31:03 - (read)
Okay sweet!
Date Sent: Aug 26 2011 11:29:33 - (read)
paypal should clear soon.
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:59:25 - (read)
9738006498
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:58:08 - (read)
ya whats your cell? ill txt em
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:53:46 - (read)
yeah can I get pics of em?
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:52:20 - (read)
lets go 205 shipped? ill pay for half the shipping
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:39:43 - (read)
I'll do everything I can. $200 shipped and we have a deal.
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:37:59 - (read)
oh okay! soon the better! i need cash bad man!
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:37:15 - (read)
I have to transfer the money to my paypal, then i can pay you.
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:36:09 - (read)
ya lets do that? so you can start to pay? that would mean the world to me man!
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:35:31 - (read)
I can't pay tonight but I can start the paypal transfer and have it by the end of the week.
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:33:22 - (read)
ya id do that! And ill fix them up real nice! can you
pay tonight? i need cash! i can have them out priority mail and include
neff lanyard and I AM A SKIER wristband
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:32:06 - (read)
ight well i have a really good deal on some magic pants so $200.
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:31:32 - (read)
LARGE but huge! like huge....and good overall cuffs are
torn up a bit and one big tear but if you buy them ill have my
seamstress mommy fix them perfect :)
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:30:18 - (read)
well what size and condition?
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:29:48 - (read)
throw me an offer ( please take into account what they are)
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:29:10 - (read)
how much?
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:27:20 - (read)
id get ya a pretty good price off what magic pants will cost....then just trade
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:26:54 - (read)
buy the G pants! Anybody with magic pants will trade for them!
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:24:32 - (read)
I'll give it a look, but im really trying to put together a magic pant black jacket combo
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:24:32 - (read)
I'll give it a look, but im really trying to put together a magic pant black jacket combo
Date Sent: Aug 23 2011 22:10:37 - (read)
i have a XL saga varsity? and Large saga darkside pants
Large G pants, tall hoodie, rare jiberish, XL beaverfur pants, murked
splices
I'm pretty confident Gooner is in the wrong here, but if not please do let me know.
P.S. Gooner I invite you to come in here with juvenile denying bullshit, I did nothing but try to remedy this situation, and you have done nothing but be difficult.
Sorry about the dbl. pic my laptop just does that.
