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1212j5j5
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ok, from what i heard on the news. this man in union station (toronto) yesterday was trying to kill his wife, then ran outside and took another hostage, the swat was there and whatnot, and apparently after 2 minutes or so of negotiation, a sniper shot him. They say they want to show people that they dont take shit, they'll shoot ya in the head if yuo take hostages. though in actual fact, i dont thinkl he killed his wife, or anyone. but whatever. look at it how you choose


-Ryan
Aug 26 2004 9:36AM
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1212j5j5
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i stand corrected. it might not have been 2 minutes.


-Ryan
Aug 26 2004 9:44AM
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canonrider
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nope his wife lived as well as the hostage girl... they said they felt it was gonna escalate so they took him out

really sad and unfortunate
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Aug 26 2004 9:54AM
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1212j5j5
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Heres the Article

I really dont like the way its written. but whatever.


-Ryan
Aug 26 2004 9:55AM
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nothanks
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AWESOME I NEEDED TO KNOW THAT




GO SOX
REALLY REALLY RIDICLOUSlY gOOD LOOKING
Aug 26 2004 11:10AM
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rossignol_rider
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That's an interesting story, it's really sad that in the world today, we can just up and shoot a hostage suspect in the middle of downtonw. No way things would've went that way 20 years ago. I did really like this quote though......
'Pow! and then he stalls for a second, just drops, blood everywhere. It was nuts, man. Brains just flew everywhere,' said a witness from a hotel window. 'Slow motion. It was like one of those things you see in a movie.'

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Jules: What does Marcellus Wallace look like? Brett: What? Jules: [pointing his gun] Say 'what' again. SAY 'WHAT' AGAIN! I dare you, I double dare you, motherfucker! Say 'what' one more goddamn time! Brett: He's b-b-black... Jules: Go on. Brett: He's bald... Jules: Does he look like a bitch? Brett: What? [Jules shoots Brett in shoulder] Jules: DOES HE LOOK LIKE A BITCH? Brett: NO! Jules: Then why you trying to fuck him like a bitch, Brett? Brett: I didn't! Jules: Yes you did. Yes you did, Brett. You tried to fuck him. And Marcellus Wallace don't like to be fucked by anybody, except Mrs. Wallace.
BFSC WE DO IT FROGGY STYLE
Aug 26 2004 12:00PM
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michelle
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They should've just shot him in the leg or foot and then arrested him. Not made a huge scene by blowing his head off.
Aug 26 2004 12:05PM
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Phrosty
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no, fuck that, he had hostages, they did the right thing, I hope if I ever get taken hostage or someone I know does they blow the fuckers head off. If he's gona step up and play he better be ready to lose. He got what he deserved.


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Aug 26 2004 12:08PM
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Phrosty
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and after reading that horribly written article I feel even stronger that he got what was comming to him.


Why do black people dislike me? If it wasn't for white dudes they would still be slaves.

And I'm sure I would own a few.
Aug 26 2004 12:26PM
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Markman
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I agree with frosty. If this fucker thinks hes tough and wants to take people hostage then he better be able to pay the consequences
Aug 26 2004 12:56PM
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TheStamos
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Score !! they shot him, thats the kinda shit that needs to happen in the US. when it comes down to someone inncoent's life the person who is about to take it need's to be taken asap under all circumstance. Fuck now i want to live in canada..





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Aug 26 2004 1:03PM
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michelle
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Ya the consequences should've been life in jail, not dying. He would've payed for what he did in jail, but now he's just gone.
Aug 26 2004 1:06PM
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michelle
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Ya, but he DIDN'T take her life!
Aug 26 2004 1:07PM
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mathers
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:| good thing im at my cottage, i ride around there when im home
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Aug 26 2004 1:07PM
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TheStamos
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ok, i ment the threat of someone innocent losing there life.





..Seth Pistols rock my fuckin socks..
Aug 26 2004 1:10PM
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TheStamos
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And thats one less asshole you canadians have to pay for in jail, maybe not, i dont no your system..





..Seth Pistols rock my fuckin socks..
Aug 26 2004 1:16PM
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1212j5j5
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the article was just terrible. it sounded like the guy was righting a goddamn romance novel turned bad.


-Ryan
Aug 26 2004 1:22PM
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1212j5j5
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not sure if the satar allows external linking. but why would they put a picture like this in the article


-Ryan
Aug 26 2004 1:27PM
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edmonton_skier
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i find that quoye pretty dusturbing how that seemed almost.. entertained by what happened thats just sick...
Aug 26 2004 1:34PM
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1212j5j5
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the whole articles like that. the guys telling the story like its a thriller novel, not real life. its really surreal.


-Ryan
Aug 26 2004 1:36PM
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KingShit
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I agree with you fully on that, sounds like the write is some kind of a sadistic freak.



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Aug 26 2004 1:38PM
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flatspinner
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i agree with phrosty. if he wants to play in the big leagues, he'd better know that someone was going to throw one up and in.
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Aug 26 2004 2:13PM
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1212j5j5
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eh. sure


-Ryan
Aug 26 2004 9:36PM
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h3ofilms
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i cant blame the cops for shooting him...thats their job...if your stupid enough to take a hostage, you deserve a hollowpoint between the eyes...sniper probably saved two innocent lives
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Aug 26 2004 9:40PM
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1212j5j5
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1 innocent life.


-Ryan
Aug 26 2004 9:42PM
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soup
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the picture looks so nice and calm. teh women doesnt look worried at all. and the guy is smiling like 'ya im gonna live this one out mother fuckers. hey are those snip...' (gun shot heard and man falls to ground)
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Aug 26 2004 10:07PM
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h3ofilms
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^ hahaha

i dont get why people defend police killing someone in that situation...u think the sniper WANTED to shoot someone dead? nobody wants to kill someone, but thats their job...pull the trigger to save lifes

whats one life when another was saved? clearly the life of an innocent hostage takes preference over the life of someone threatening to take the life of another (wow, alotta LIFE in that paragraph)
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Aug 26 2004 10:13PM
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flatspinner
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^but nonetheless intelligent. It would suck to be a sniper at times, i'm sure they do not want to kill people...but when the situation calls for it, they're the ones who have to do it.
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you'll see savoir faire
beneath my icy stare
I've got a retainer
Maybe I'm the physics main event
maybe I'm the chem club president
maybe even Texas Instruments
thinks that I'm coplanar
If you're up
and if you want
a piece of me
wave goodbye and
blow a kiss
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Aug 26 2004 10:56PM
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mathers
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you can bet your left nut that every sniper is trained to have no emotion in those situations
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Aug 26 2004 11:00PM
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Jib_This
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They didn't have a choice. 40 minutes of negotiation got them nowhere with the guy, who had already proven himself to be violent by pistol whipping his ex wife and then shooting at her while chasing her. As for just shooting him in the leg or arm, that's all well and good until you realize that he's not incapacitated enough to fire his weapon, and he's worried/hurt/thinking he's got nothing to lose. The only option that assures the safe return of the hostage, short of succesful negotiation, is shooting the hostage taker DEAD. And while you can bet that the ETF sharpshooters are trained to make the choice to kill the guy without emotion, it does scar them for quite some time, and trauma counselling is usually necessary for them. No cop likes having to kill someone.

It sucks that this guy's life situation led to this, but when you start hurting people and taking hostages, and reason isn't something you have anymore, sometimes being shot dead is the only way to prevent more violence.



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Aug 27 2004 12:49AM
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PocketRocketRipper
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yeah, I don't think some of you realize that this guy was waving a pistol around in a fucking train station, he clearly was ready to kill and he was clearly a serious danger. He got both what was coming to him, and what NEEDED to be done, this guy was playing for keeps and he wasn't going to go quietly.

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Aug 27 2004 12:54AM
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Stinkey_egg
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Uhhh the guy just had to be black and they shot him really quick because the color of his skin!! hahahahah kinda funny




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Aug 27 2004 12:55AM
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1212j5j5
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i dont like how you guys put it. too much speculation. sue he needed to be shot, but your all so convinced you knew what the guys intentions were, obviously he didnt kill his wife, or even beat her unconcious, so dont claim to know whats going through his mind.


-Ryan
Aug 27 2004 8:14AM
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jibs
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'Her black hair was parted in the middle and pulled back. She wore hoop earrings, denim capris, a dark sweater and a bright fuchsia top, which lent a weirdly festive air to increasingly horrific events.'

Soooo dramatic..

from the CBC..

http://toronto.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=to_shooting20040825

Much better place to get news from..


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Aug 27 2004 9:41AM
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1212j5j5
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all thees poics seem surreal. fake. ya


-Ryan
Aug 27 2004 9:47AM
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MacMahoooon
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Heres another article from the CBC...the whole thing was premeditated and the guy ran around a food court full of people firing shots from a sawed off shotgun. He was unable to kill his wife (or anyone else while randomly firing at her) when his gun jammed after the second shot (which police were unaware of at the time of the hostage taking. While I find it very hard to condone killing anyone for any reason...the cops at the scene felt this was the best way to protect the lives of both the hostage and the thousands of people that fill the streets around the area at that time of the morning. I am sure there will be a huge investigation around this but I doubt it will come down to a trigger happy sniper.

another CBC article

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