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OCCUPY OCCUPY WALL STREET!

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MatRich
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I love these guys!
Oct 27 2011 10:57AM
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TOAST.
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OR the people who get paid to figure out solutions to these problems can start working the fuck together to figure it out.
Oct 27 2011 1:34PM
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MatRich
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you had a job before... hahahaha.

Im sory im not making you seem worthless. you probably have a lot of worth and can do something of yourself. stop begging for it and get it yourself. Asking for money but not working for it, thats fucking lame. ask for better social system for when your unemployed. not for the richman to give you money when your unemployed and doing nothing about it!
Oct 27 2011 1:35PM
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sherwood4099
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Oh Ayala takes a lot of courage to be apart of a croud and a complete intellectual lemming These people are just bodies who want to be a part of something
Oct 27 2011 1:35PM
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BootySpunk.
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I think the people who are "paid to figure out solutions" are the ones that the occupy people are protesting against.
Oct 27 2011 1:40PM
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cobra_commander
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probably shouldn't have gotten a worthless liberal arts degree then...

Don't be surprised when you can't get a job with your English major.
Oct 27 2011 1:47PM
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TOAST.
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Would probably be because they havnt figured out them there solutions, ya hear.
Oct 27 2011 1:49PM
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ImNotARacist
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Does this story sound similar???

Financial crisis

Louis XVI ascended to the throne amidst a financial crisis; the state was nearing bankruptcy and outlays outpaced income.[7] This was because of France’s financial obligations stemming from involvement in the Seven Years War and its participation in the American Revolutionary War.[8] In May 1776, finance minister Turgot was dismissed, after he failed to enact reforms. The next year, Jacques Necker, a foreigner, was appointed Comptroller-General of Finance. He could not be made an official minister because he was a Protestant.[9]
Necker realized that the country's extremely regressive tax system subjected the lower classes to a heavy burden,[9] while numerous exemptions existed for the nobility and clergy.[10] He argued that the country could not be taxed higher; that tax exemptions for the nobility and clergy must be reduced; and proposed that borrowing more money would solve the country's fiscal shortages. Necker published a report to support this claim that underestimated the deficit by roughly 36 million livres, and proposed restricting the power of the parlements.[9]
This was not received well by the King's ministers and Necker, hoping to bolster his position, argued to be made a minister. The King refused, Necker was fired, and Charles Alexandre de Calonne was appointed to the Comptrollership.[9] Calonne initially spent liberally, but he quickly realized the critical financial situation and proposed a new tax code.[11]
The proposal included a consistent land tax, which would include taxation of the nobility and clergy. Faced with opposition from the parlements, Calonne organised the summoning of the Assembly of Notables. But the Assembly failed to endorse Calonne's proposals and instead weakened his position through its criticism. In response, the King announced the calling of the Estates-General for May 1789, the first time the body had been summoned since 1614. This was a signal that the Bourbon monarchy was in a weakened state and subject to the demands of its people.[12]
Oct 27 2011 1:49PM
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ImNotARacist
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If the people getting paid aren't doing their jobs you replace them. Why has OWS not found someone to replace those who have no interest in the common good of the people.
Oct 27 2011 1:52PM
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-ROY-
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thats awesome
Oct 27 2011 1:54PM
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D-40
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This is the ultimate troll, but fuck it, Shadynasty you are an idiot and I would just like to point that out

"I don't find this funny. occupy wall street is a very serious thing. These people are putting their lives on the line trying to save the country and people like you are both too lazy and just dumb."

I find this statement extremely offensive.  To say that these protesters are putting their lives on the line when they are only excersizing their freedom of speech.  I'm all for freedom of speech, but you clearly haven't experienced any sort of death to a member of our military.  This is extremely offensive and if you said this to me in person I would automatically punch you in the face.

"they're doing this for you and every other red blooded american even if you're not thankful. America has been over run with corporate greed. They're trying to save the country before it gets destroyed. this will be a moment in history we will look back on and thank these people for saving our country."

What the hell are they doing?  Please enlighten us...I have no clue what they are doing.  Please share some sort of insight to the movement's ultimate goal.  Save the country before it gets destroyed?  Give me a break.

"love america that's why I support these protests with all my heart.
Hopefully all they are fighting for will not go to waste. I think we can make the right changes this time. Let's take back america."

What are they fighting for?  They are not fighting to make our country the America that we created after gaining our independence.  I would argue that they are fighting to become more like Europe.  Europe is doing so well as of late with their policies.

I'm not even going to comment on the hippie post. 

"Then how are we supposed to get the message out? The new networks are owned by the corporations. We need to say " this is enough!" and take a stand for freedom.
I've had a job before, I'm not worthless as you make it seem. Hopefully everyone can stay safe out there.
I hope all the protesters will stay strong and not back down. It takes a lot of courage to just leave everything and go fight. I wouldn't expect some of you to understand."

What message are you trying to get out?  What freedom are you even talking about exactly?  Stay safe out there?  Why would they be in danger?  What exactly don't you think some of us cannot understand?  So in your eyes, freedom = socialism?  Whaaaa?

How about you add an ounce of logic to whatever the fuck you are going to say in the future.  Or form some sort of objective this movement is pushing and let us know.  Don't come back to NS until you do.  That is the only way to rid NS of your stupidity for good, because frankly, this isn't a protest for change, this is a protest to just bitch at those who have been much more productive in their lifetimes. 

Oct 27 2011 2:01PM
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theabortionator
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I don't think you understand exactly how dangerous it is at some of the protests.
Oct 27 2011 2:15PM
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theabortionator
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The small percentage of people control all the wealth. Meanwhile the rest of us are struggling to pay the bills. People can't afford to go to college, there aren't enough jobs and the jobs don't pay enough. What about the people that can't find a job. They have nothing while some asshole is collecting millions from some corporation thats sucking the life out of everyone else..


We need to stand up and change it. that's what it's all about
Oct 27 2011 2:17PM
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ImNotARacist
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A soldier was hit in the head with a projectile which fractured his skull, in Oakland.

Do you know anything about OAKLAND? I am not surprised at all that tear gas was needed in OAKLAND.

OCCUPY WALL STREET, Is not dangerous at all. Now go away you dirty hobbit
Oct 27 2011 2:19PM
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cobra_commander
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I don't think you appreciate how dangerous the rest of the world is; especially the places we call war zones.
Oct 27 2011 2:22PM
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Ski_the_east01
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so dangerous.

their handing out gourmet meals n shit
hanging out not working all day chilling in your tent
free wifi set ups so they can chill on their macbook pros all day

its like a long boy scout retreat, except they aren't doing anything productive




occupy wall street...so dangerous.
Oct 27 2011 2:23PM
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MatRich
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that asshole sucking in millions helps run a buisness that generates thousands of jobs for little shits like you who in turn complain about how they make money. sure there arnt infinit jobs but how did you become unemployed? a lot of unemployed people are lazy or unqualified people. you dont like your situation, cant get a job... move to a place that has jobs or even better create yourself a job, start a buisness. I bet if you started a buisness and got big like the 1% you wouldnt ever complain.
Oct 27 2011 2:25PM
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D-40
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Obviously, with the regulations that have been put into place it is going to limit competition in the market place.  That is what puts more money in fewer hands.  And if an individual makes a lot of money good for them. 

More people should strive to be as productive as these individuals.  If you think the people making millions of dollars is "unfair" and those people should provide less productive individuals with income that will do nothing that make the less productive individuals more and more dependent on government and it gives them no incentive to become productive individuals.

Life is not fair.  Learn that.

Oct 27 2011 2:29PM
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theabortionator
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Are you and B_Reilly_Stun... stupid?


I said these protests. I was talking about all of the occupy protests happening in the states now. That includes the oakland one. You totally miss my point and then make fun of me

Oct 27 2011 2:33PM
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cobra_commander
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WA WA WA, My life is too hard, WA WA WA

You can't pay for college? Bull shit. There are tons of ways to pay for college.

There is thousands and thousands of dollars in scholarships out there. Of course, to get those you would probably have to work hard to get good grades... (unless you are a minority)

Don't want to earn a scholarship because you think doing your homework is to demanding? G.I. Bill is out there. In addition, some of the Colorado schools offer 100% free tuition for vets.

A college education has never been more available then it is right now.


The people who can't find a job can't find one because they are either worthless as employees and/or not willing to actually put in a days work.
Oct 27 2011 2:35PM
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joshua
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HAHA,you think you got it hard here in cozy ol'America? Mabeye travel a little bit to some less fortunate places and you might appreciate how good you really have it. Clearly if all these people can afford to stand around doing nothing for weeks and weeks and they aren't very poor.
Also how do you feel about homeless people raiding the protests and stealing money, food etc? That is redistribution of wealth to those who need it right? Isn't that what you want? You cool with all that? Because if you think that is wrong then how can you justify getting free money from someone just b/c "they have lots and don't need it."
Oct 27 2011 2:37PM
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theabortionator
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So your against it, fine. You don't have to be such a dick about it.


These protests are trying to help the homeless and everyone else that isn't filthy rich. I don't see your point really.
Oct 27 2011 2:41PM
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D-40
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I don't know about that.  Price of tuition is rising at like 8% a year.  There is a fundemental problem there.  I'm going to be ignorant and blame it on the teachers unions and crazy pension plans that nobody can afford.
Oct 27 2011 2:42PM
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afterbangingyou
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at least bush gave every taxpayer like 600 dollars when he was president. i havent gotten shit from obama.
Oct 27 2011 2:43PM
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D-40
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Dude just stop while you weren't so far behind.  Shit.  What is wrong with being filthy rich?  Isn't that the American dream?  Anyone from any upbringing isn't limited to a certain class of living, rather they are able to climb the ladder...
Oct 27 2011 2:44PM
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Ski_the_east01
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you don't pay taxes..youre 14 shut the fuck up
Oct 27 2011 2:45PM
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cobra_commander
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They are helping the homeless, by providing a nice supply of iphones and macbook pros for them them to steel.
Oct 27 2011 2:46PM
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BootySpunk.
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Agreed.

I would love to hear about the degrees these recent college graduates claiming they can't find a job got. Did they not try to intern at companies before graduating? Did they just expect since they had a piece of paper that they were going to be immediately hired without no initiative what so ever? I am sure sitting around holding signs is helping them find a job.

Oh you went to college for 4 years and got a degree in dog watching and can't find a job...fucking shocker.

Wait I forgot only the big bad greedy men get all the jobs. They were born into it and never had to work hard their whole lives.

Right because CEOs of giant corporations don't know what they are doing and never worked hard to get there.
Oct 27 2011 2:46PM
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eheath
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The idea behind occupy wall street is good, but its backed by a bunch of idiots. out of the thousands of people, maybe 5-10% actually know whats going on and have great ideas for the country, the other majority are a bunch of fucking hippies, wannabes and followers. The majority has no idea about whats going on and thats why occupy wall street is stupid IMO.
Oct 27 2011 2:49PM
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SERENGETI_YETI
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Nobody is against people being successful. It's about the greedy people and corporations they run that mow everything down in their way and hoard all the money.


It's gotta stop at some point. Unfortunately a lot of people won't even care enough to do anything until it's too late.
Oct 27 2011 2:50PM
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theabortionator
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True.

I think it goes beyond that though. I just hope that when we pass the world onto the next generation we have left this country in a better spot than the mess we got left with.
Oct 27 2011 2:53PM
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BootySpunk.
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I guess I see your point a little bit.

I just think that if you gave people on the lower end more money than they would just spend a little bit of it and put the rest in the bank or stow it away somewhere for when they needed it.

I know that is what I would do if I magically started to make 4 bucks more at a job or magically got money somehow.
Oct 27 2011 2:56PM
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Ski_the_east01
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hahahahahahahah

also, great story about your pops he should be in the man thread...reminds me of my old man - they were definitely a different generation of people than people today
Oct 27 2011 2:57PM
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joshua
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Sorry, I had to vent. /rant
What really ticks me off is that this movement has spread to Canada. The U.S. is in a bit of downturn so I can see at least of shred of legitamacy in some of the complaints for OWS, but the fact that people are complaining in Canada is just rediculous. Like seriousely? Canada has like the highest standard of living int he world and you are protesting against it?

But I am still wondering what someone such as yourself who supports the OWS thinks about the homeless stealing from the protests. You didn't answer my question yet.
Oct 27 2011 2:58PM
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afterbangingyou
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tell any black person from any ghetto ever, that they should have worked harder. then u will see the power of 400 years of oppression of a gene pool stomping on your face.

i think everyone needs to take a minute, stop and think back to slavery and what this country was really founded on and then say oh yea this country is the best country on earth we have such great systems going.

then when u are done thinking about slavery, think about the race of people that had to be killed off and put on reservations so their land could be bought and sold for profits and have slaves brought over to work the fields.

then when u are done thinking about that, think back to all the non existent money that people could use  live off the land for thousands and thousands of years before the money fueled shit show came and took over the land.


Oct 27 2011 2:59PM
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eheath
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shadynasty, this applies to all of your posts

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If someone cant get a job, its their fault, not the CEOs of companies. Like someone said before, those people making millions are running companies that supply hundreds of thousands of jobs, maybe even a million jobs in some cases.

People in the "1%" have worked their ass off since day one, people with your attitude and way of thinking won't make it to that 1% because they're lazy pieces of shit, moaning and groaning that the rich people are taking all of the money THEY HAVE EARNED and they're flipping burgers at mcdonalds.

I'm not trying to attack you directly, because shadynasty i do not know you personally, but people like you are the dumb ass people sitting at OWS and have no idea about whats going on, they're just there because they think they deserve this money that the CEOs have earned.

There is a good message behind OWS but the majority of the people there are just bitching and moaning because these CEOs make millions of dollars and they either make shit or have shit wages at their job. Those CEOs started in the same position, bottom of the ladder, making minimum wage, and made their way up to CEO by working their ass off. But of course, they should give away all of their money they have earned, because some lazy fuck thinks they're greedy. fuck that.
Oct 27 2011 2:59PM
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BootySpunk.
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I love you.

Let me tell you a short story about my mom.

Her mom didn't believe that women should go to college and only be house wives. My mom said "fuck that" and started to work at P&G when she was 18. Straight out of high school. She worked 40+ hours a week and took college classes at night. All of this paid for by her company. Long story short she worked her ass of for a very long time and still works her ass off to make a good living for her family. She wasn't handed everything on a silver plate and knew what it took to be successful and did it.
Oct 27 2011 3:00PM
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Poundtown
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communism and socialism is the conclusion of occupy wall-street. people need to stop wasting their time protesting, quit being lazy, and work there ass off. most those rich people worked there ass off every day to get there and still do. plus that 99% to 1% is completely bullshit and an non-supported number. all you 12 year olds have no idea that their purpose could put USA and its allies into a worse state then it is. why do you think they made such a big deal to get rid of communism in our history. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHh
Oct 27 2011 3:01PM
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howlongcanausern
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korean war was bad mmmmmkay?
Oct 27 2011 3:03PM
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theabortionator
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What about all the people in positions like that that got there because their family was rich, and has always been rich.


The rags to riches thing is far less common. for the most part the people with all the money keep taking in more and holding onto it.


I don't think it's all their fault though. Our government keeps forcing jobs overseas because of their policies and stuff. If we could bring some of those jobs back it would make the economy better.
Oct 27 2011 3:03PM
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cobra_commander
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I am not sure why this post needed to be made, but let me respond by saying that the first dude would get a first hand opinion on whether the power of 400 years of oppression of a gene pool is greater or weaker then the power of a .45 Winchester SXT round out of 4in barrel.

My money is on the .45 round.
Oct 27 2011 3:05PM
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Mr.Panda
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OWS had some good ideas... for the first like 3 days until every whiny trust fund baby that they don't have a job with their art degree went their to bitch and moan just cause they can.
Oct 27 2011 3:07PM
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Poundtown
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2 things, 1) you are jealous 2) you are an IDIOT.

the amount of jealousy that stems out of that sentence is retarted, WHO CARES IF THEY CAME FROM MONEY. thats fucking life, work your ass off everyday instead of whining about what other people got, and ull get there.

Rags to riches is far less common my ass, you just dont hear about it. if Jonny Pineapple becomes a successful millionaire, every citizen in the country does not need to know, nor will know!

Create your own jobs, thats what ive been doing/ will do for the rest of my life. we need more optimistic and not fucking lazy people in this world
Oct 27 2011 3:09PM
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sherwood4099
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He's not being a dick. Your being extremely mellow dramatic and his rant was completely founded you are equating plush 1st world American protesting where police show massive restraint and use non lethal croud control after always giving people time to adhere to their demands and members are catered to by chefs. its not extremly dangerous... (i guess unless your the 19yr old girl who got raped because organizers compeled her to share a tent with an adult stranger) It just delegitmizes your point to exaggerate the danger and equate it to fighting a war or saving America. Even if a small number of these people have good intentions the majority are lazy, lemmings who are just looking to be a part of something and have nothing better to do. Not mention many of them are looking to provoke police. (see occupy Oakland go figure)
Oct 27 2011 3:10PM
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D-40
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What about them?  It doesn't matter where someone comes from.  In the world of business, you are not going to keep a well paying job if you don't produce.  You will be replaced if you are not producing for a business.  Maybe those kids had their parents pay for their schooling/car whatever.  Well, lucky them.  What about once they have to get a job and work to provide a living for theirself/their family?  They aren't going to be handed that by their fathers. 

This is class warfare.  And it is despicable.

Oct 27 2011 3:11PM
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eheath
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Stop generalizing based on what you see in the movies.


Sure, someone may have their son(or daughter, but probably son sorry ladies) take over their company. But, that father just doesn't simply hand it over like you see in the movies. They go to school, they work their ass off, they start in a lower position in the company. They still have to go through the system, they still have to work hard. Even though their path is partially laid out for them, it doesn't mean they dont work hard for it. A father isn't just gonna pass of his company to someone who won't be able to run it, period.

Alot of people go from being lower class to creating their own company or moving up in a company, again, stop generalizing.

The government is forcing jobs overseas because of their policies and "stuff"?? are you kidding me?? the government has nothing to do with it, people send jobs overseas to save money because of cheaper labor and honestly a better work ethic. If americans weren't so fucking lazy, mexicans/indians/other foreign workers wouldn't win the competition for jobs.


You blatantly don't know very much about how business works and how capitalism works, maybe you just need to sit this one out big guy,
Oct 27 2011 3:12PM
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sherwood4099
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Holy shit hahahah
Oct 27 2011 3:12PM
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bout_it
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nail has been hit on the head here....
Oct 27 2011 3:12PM
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theabortionator
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They hoard all the money and don't give any back, how can you support that? You probably came from some rich family too.


And what should i do? Start stealing and selling drugs because there aren't any jobs open?(I know that was a little extreme but come on)

Not everyone is lucky
Oct 27 2011 3:13PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Occupy Wall Street is not a serious thing. Its a bunch of nerds from 4chan that got too much media attention and attracted a bunch of black blocs and socialists.
Oct 27 2011 3:14PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Eh you can't really claim that. Soldiers in Afghanistan aren't protecting America or the principles it supposedly stands for. They are just shooting a bunch of farmers and shit, who are shooting back with weapons we gave them in the 80's.
Oct 27 2011 3:17PM
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