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Touring Set-Up: Trekkers vs Alltimes vs Dukes

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Che~
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I am thinking about getting a touring set up for this coming winter. I have S7s with Rossi demo bindings (got them for cheap-dont hate). Does anybody have personal opinions/recommendations about a touring set up? I am already planning on getting new bindings anyways, and I am leaning towards getting the Alltimes
Oct 20 2011 9:12PM
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J.S.
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If you have the money go for the Alltimes. Otherwise a buddy of mine has s7's with dukes and loves them.
Oct 20 2011 9:20PM
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.nasty
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MFD>dukes>trekkers.
Oct 20 2011 9:25PM
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J.S.
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this
Oct 20 2011 11:49PM
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blatt
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Eh. MFD's are heavy as fuck. Dukes are way lighter than Alltimes even with the lightest bindings on them.

I'd put the dukes as #1. But the Alltimes are nice because you can apply them to any ski.
Oct 21 2011 12:43AM
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.nasty
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they're not "heavy as fuck". maybe a half pound heavier, it more than makes up for it being able to click into alpine bindings. plus they're more torsionally stiff when climbing.
Oct 21 2011 12:45AM
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J.D.
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Plum guides. Duh.
Oct 21 2011 12:46AM
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blatt
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with a 16 din binding attached to them, they would indeed be "heavy as fuck". But that's not always a dealbreaker for people, even though it was for me. There are a few pros to the alltimes, but I still believe the dukes are the better touring setup.
Oct 21 2011 12:47AM
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.nasty
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they're not as heavy as you think...though still heavier yes. do you realize how overly heavy dukes already are? lol
Oct 21 2011 12:48AM
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maxwell666
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for me it goes

trekker>mfd>duke

I want my alpines on the way down, and i dont want to pay 300 i dont want new holes drilled in my skis, i dont want to be any higher on the way down than i have to be. trekkers apparantly only suck if the person maintaining them sucks. not a problem
Oct 21 2011 3:59AM
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J.S.
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Trekkers suck because of their high stand height and they break easily. I maintain my trekkers, but they still suck ass.
Oct 21 2011 9:13AM
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mvele
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It depends on your priorities. If how they ski is tops and you arent too worried about how well they climb, then trekkers probably are what you want. If you care about how they climb mostly then mfd or dukes or even a legit touring binding to save weight and have better climbing abilities. I stick with trekkers cuz I really dont care how they climb as long as I get there. I am more interested in how they ski and I use the same skis for resorts so I dont want to be held back by heavy dukes when skiing lifts all day.
Oct 21 2011 10:01AM
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.nasty
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wrong. trekkers also suck when you're skinning on a steeper boilerplate. the metal isn't perfect and bends easy in the toe. Plus you're about 2/3 inches higher off your ski than a duke...
Oct 22 2011 12:16PM
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afterbangingyou
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considering the duke is in the heavy as fuck catagory, anything heavier makes it heavier than fuck. which is reallllly fuckin heavy.
Oct 22 2011 1:23PM
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Bonzalo
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You cant just ask a bunch of guys which binding is better. It all depends on you. I mean, your skiing style, how much you tour, how long are your tours, terrain etc etc... So basing your choice from a bunch of guys saying wich is the lightest or which is better for them is not the way to choose your next touring binding.
Oct 22 2011 1:32PM
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maxwell666
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and you are higher up on the duke on the way down.
Oct 22 2011 4:52PM
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SteezoSaurus
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This.

For me, someone who absolutely prioritizes durability going down rather than ease going up, I will pick the MFD. It still provides the lowest ride height (with an FKS binding) when compared to any other AT setup, especially Marker.
For those who say the MFDs are too heavy, that is absolutely not true. I weighed mine and they were only 3/4 a pound per plate.
Another huge advantage of the MFD is that lateral width of the plate screws is massive. This will provide much better leverage and prevent pulling out.

Oct 22 2011 6:41PM
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jon@wh2o
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Whatever you think is best, probably is. You're the only one that knows your exact needs in a binding and so are the most likely to figure out what will work for you. Read some in depth reviews about each of the bindings, and decide what best meets you wants/needs.
Oct 22 2011 8:15PM
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MarkieR
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i have trekkers and they work fine for most of the short tours i do. that said, they're definitely awful for long tours as well as steeps and boilerplate snow. if i found myself touring for multiple hours or if i were traversing ice/hardpack on a regular basis, i would most definitely be using a different setup. however, for my application trekkers are fine. i really like the ability to pull the trekkers when i get to the top and step right into my 16 din steel bindings for the descent. like several people have already said, decide exactly what you're going to be doing and make your decision from there. or you can just buy one and try it for the winter and see what you get into. if what you bought isn't working out, sell it and try something else.
Oct 22 2011 9:20PM
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