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Why has the footage of Pep & Andy @ Winter X (07?) still never seen the light of day?

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hollygrove
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Seriously? Why has it never been released on the internet? I've been waiting years for it! Maybe I just missed in, and if so, I wanna see it!
Oct 19 2011 8:40PM
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j.bird
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You will never see it, get over it. Andy said himself that ESPN will never release it.

Besides, they didn't even lay down that sick of runs. Obviously them doing entirely switch runs with nothing over a 3 is really dope, but apparently they both ate shit a couple times and had major speed issues.
Oct 19 2011 8:43PM
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HeathR
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I am sure it would be a big let down to actually see it. Better to leave it as something amazing that you imagined.
Oct 19 2011 8:58PM
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CassiusClay
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Fuck ya hellbents!
Oct 19 2011 9:29PM
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250r
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i dont recall seeing this...haha did they just like zero spin everything on their new bents?
Oct 19 2011 9:38PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Philisophically this was the biggest win that skiing ever had.

Too bad most people didn't get it.

Oct 19 2011 10:09PM
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ja.
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I find it hard to believe noone on NS was at xgames and filmed it. I wanna see it!
Oct 19 2011 10:14PM
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openmindportrait
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I am intrigued by this
Oct 19 2011 10:15PM
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562056961108
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Bishop's right, this was a huge leap forward for skiing's train of thought.

A symbolic message to the rest of the world that skiing in the backcountry, doing tricks that you enjoy, and keeping things smooth were way more important than a kangaroo flip or a super-tech switch 10.

Now, a lot of skiing has converged, with doubles looking steezy (off huge BC booters and pyramid gap nonetheless), people like Sean Petit really (REALLY) amping up the style and tricks in the middle of big-mountain lines, and more people generally appreciating the importance of flow in slopestyle and big-mountain.

so, yes, HUGE. Doesn't need to be seen, it should be in your mind already :)
Oct 19 2011 10:30PM
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Mr.Bishop
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I would still argue to the DEATH that if someone did the fucking craziest cork 5 shifty with ZERO flailing and absolute PERFECTION... and completely utterly unsafely MASSIVE....

That this would be more stylish than a dub cork 1440 could ever be.

Oct 19 2011 10:32PM
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Dr.Rick_Marshall
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By now its probably in the vatican city archives, it is said that the footage is too powerful to be trusted with mere commoners. None may see but the holiest of eyes.
Oct 19 2011 10:36PM
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562056961108
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I'd say that tons of people would argue for and against that point to the death, can't win the argument though, it's a matter of opinion. Skiing's what you make it.

But as a dude who's been around awhile, i'd say fuck yea to that. Drop a nasty ass shifty as you take that 40 feet deep to the bottom of the landing on a 100 footer. Gets way more props in my book too.

I'd +karma you but cmon... you're Bishop haha.
Oct 19 2011 10:37PM
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hollygrove
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The thing I don't get is why ESPN didn't ven mention a single word about their runs in any kind of coverage (TV, web, etc.) I mean, they basically cut two riders completely out of the already narrow roster. Why the boycott? You'd think they'd at least mention these two big name riders who were a part of the competition.. possibly because Redbull or Monster weren't backing them? I dunno...
Oct 19 2011 11:06PM
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special_k10101
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i think they thought andy and pep were somehow being disrespectful to the competitive atmosphere by not going for any technical tricks and trying to make a statement with style alone. they saw it as an embarrassment.
Oct 19 2011 11:13PM
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SteezoSaurus
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This thread is definitely relevant to my interest.
Free the footage! Free Pep and Andy!
Oct 19 2011 11:21PM
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Skiingsnow
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heard about this last year, sounds awesome, cant beleive espn would not air that... surely someone got the footage on a handycam or something??
Oct 19 2011 11:26PM
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ja.
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thats what im sayin!
Oct 19 2011 11:43PM
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TOAST.
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I never understand why whenever somebody has already won, and they are taking their victory lap, they never lay down a super steezy run.
Oct 19 2011 11:49PM
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tinkytwinky
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i think skiings progression in terms of spinning is about to come to a stop. Its unrealistic really, you wont have the speed and amount of space in order to build jumps big enough to throw 3 tripples in a row, and perhaps someday a quad off of.

On the other hand, im really excited that skiing will be pushed into a more innovative direction, where people start to throw rad doubles like john ware and begin to explore more rail tricks, like hornbeck, cassabon, and kiesel among others.
Oct 19 2011 11:54PM
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Holte
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Bishop, did you guys ever end up contacting ESPN about the footage?
Oct 20 2011 12:18AM
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Mr.Bishop
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Tried.

Failed.

:(

Oct 20 2011 12:29AM
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CassiusClay
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Competitions will always see intense movement away from the norm (as pep and andy did then) as a bad thing. It has nothing to do with Redbull or Monster, the judges eyes were just blinded with amazingness.
Oct 20 2011 1:13AM
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Kevski
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Where's the ESPN office? We should organize a protest and camp out for a couple months, fighting against the corruption of mainstream sports media. Occupy ESPN. "We demand footy! We demand footy!"
Oct 20 2011 2:56AM
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powderhound100
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I would love to see andy and peps footage.
Oct 20 2011 3:01AM
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PilleDaKid
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I like this idea. Occupying things is so hot right now.
Oct 20 2011 9:42AM
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PacificRimJob
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This was such a huuuge step forward and totally divided the camps as far as what skiing should be...

Once the movie IDEA came out, this whole thing took notice, and galvanized. I pretty much stopped paying attention to the Xgames after 2007... at least from the standpoint that I actually cared.
Oct 28 2011 9:47AM
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10...nuffsaid
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amen
Oct 28 2011 9:58AM
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Milksteak
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Fuck....Excuse my ignorance but what exactly did they do?
Oct 28 2011 10:05AM
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BobYohan
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Oct 28 2011 10:11AM
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Lord.Quasimoto
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THE BEST.
Oct 28 2011 10:31AM
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I_Am_Mod
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this footage is pretty much the holy grail of freeskiing ....
Oct 28 2011 10:35AM
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Milksteak
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.
Oct 28 2011 10:36AM
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Capernicus
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Here is a replica of the holy grail (the closet thing we will ever see to the x-games footage):

http://youtu.be/Uef31X3QGSQ

The hands in jacket sequence at the end is still so sweet.  Also, there are 9 pixels in this video.

If I fail...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uef31X3QGSQ
Oct 28 2011 10:48AM
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PacificRimJob
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<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Uef31X3QGSQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

^embed this. stupid thing's being tempermental
Oct 28 2011 11:13AM
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mr.rise
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This
Oct 28 2011 11:23AM
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I_Am_Mod
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all you embed noobs, check out my 1337 embed skillzzz

Oct 28 2011 11:31AM
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PacificRimJob
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It's not skills... your computer just runs NS better cuz you're moderized! haha.
Oct 28 2011 11:32AM
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rudestSKIA
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the year the K2 Hellbents were invented, Andy Mahre and Pep were in X Games slopestyle, and decided to compete on Hellbents with no poles. All i've ever seen are some steezy looking photos, apparently they did zero spins and didn't spin over 5, etc, sounds pretty awesome, but no one has ever seen the footage.
Oct 28 2011 11:51AM
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b-ladd
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Can anyone who was there and got to see it in person at least describe to us in great detail how it went down?
Oct 28 2011 12:28PM
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captainEMERICA
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We should find it...
Oct 28 2011 12:38PM
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p-fo
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Only those two could do a whole jump line of perfect zeroes.
Oct 28 2011 12:45PM
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Elg
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i dare any pro to do that at the x-games this season!
Oct 28 2011 12:57PM
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I_Am_Mod
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^^how about on the olympics ?
Oct 28 2011 1:28PM
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bibs_skibum
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somebody on NS needs to get a job at ESPN, and years down the line as you move up the ladder, release the footy.

its an inside job
Oct 28 2011 1:41PM
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bardissono
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Occupy ESPN
Oct 28 2011 1:59PM
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freeskibum82
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really? what are you 12 years old?
Oct 28 2011 2:07PM
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FUUUCK
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it's a fucking joke
Oct 28 2011 2:36PM
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AwR
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Wait...I thought Nimbus had footage of it? I mean it was during the year they were filming Idea. There was that one edit with Andy and Pep in some park doing 270's on to rails with hands in pockets.
Oct 28 2011 2:57PM
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casual
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There's no debate to be had....you're 100% correct. I'd maybe argue that a huge rodeo 5 with a shifty ala TWall circa '08-9 might top the cork 5, but hey we're on the right track, haha.

The bottom line is that more spinning, especially when you're throwing it and tucking it as soon as you pop, and only stopping the rotation when your skis set down on the landing will never look as good as a late/casually initiated slow, controlled rotation with a silent upper body landing. Add in a shifty or some sort of upper/lower body separation and you've got a hammer.
Oct 28 2011 3:05PM
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freeskibum82
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^ dont worry. lolo is keeping the movement going. that KOS edit proved it
Oct 28 2011 3:13PM
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UFOsarereal
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what are you even doing in here? I thought people w/o poles weren't skiers to you.....
Oct 28 2011 3:29PM
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