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Ar7 Afterbang or Scratch

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snl093
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hands down which park ski??
Oct 19 2011 8:28PM
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scratch for stiffer and ar7 if you want something that is a little softer but still hold up. both really durable too. abangs..ill let everyone else give their opinion.
Oct 19 2011 11:04PM
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BWalmer
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In this order:
Scratch, AR7, Anything else, Afterbang.


Seriously, you can't expect a ski that was actually made for urban skiing to ski well on a mountain...you just can't. If you plan on ONLY using them from a drop-in to a rail to a landing, you'll be alright...but if you want to actually get to the park, good luck.

That being said, I'm really impressed with Rossignol's Scratch, they carve amazingly, they handle jumps pretty much perfectly, and they still hold up on rails really well, not too mention they're really light and durable and have pop for days.

The AR7 is also pretty good, a bit softer than the Scratch (if that's what you're looking for), still durable and carve well, but I feel like they lost something between the AR6 and the AR7...I really enjoyed the AR6, but the AR7s carving/actual skiing performance is weak in comparison. But, the lowered swing weight is nice too.
Oct 19 2011 11:17PM
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snl093
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im only 120 pounds so ar7 would be b a better decision right? and shuld i keep my fks or get salomon sth or marker??
Oct 20 2011 12:40AM
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BWalmer
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That depends on what you want to do, I don't think your weight has too much to play into it unless you're looking for a soft ski, but I know people who are light that ski the scratch, it is a lighter ski than the AR7. So you can pick either one, the Scratch will ski better than the AR7 (like actually ski...they're both pretty much the same performance wise in the park), and the AR7 is softer, so use that to choose one I guess.

You can keep your FKS, I see no reason to get a different binding.
Oct 20 2011 8:13AM
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snl093
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well man i had afterbangs last year and i like a softer ski and i will only be doing park  pretty much but ill occasionally go fast on groomers what u think??
Oct 20 2011 7:41PM
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BWalmer
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You're not going fast on Afterbangs...they've been known to have one of the slowest bases out there (for a reason, it's thick and durable...like for urban skiing), not to mention the softness of the ski makes it a bit sketchy at speed and turning is quite frankly scary at speed.

I have to give Line credit, they've done an AMAZING job marketing that ski...I even fell for it when I was sponsored by them a few seasons ago...but after being on them for a season I had to differ...like I said above, it's a really, really good URBAN ski...other than that...no (again..that's what it's marketed to be....a ski that is built for the streets).

If you really want a ski that will preform, go with the Scratch or the AR7...trust me, you WILL see a difference and never want to touch an Afterbang again.
Oct 20 2011 7:54PM
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snl093
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Which is better at skiing switch ar7 or s4?
Oct 20 2011 8:28PM
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BWalmer
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well, they'll both be pretty similar when skiing switch, the Scratch/S4 is slightly more symmetrical than the AR7 (the S4 tip only being 7mm wider than the tail while the AR7 tip is 10mm wider than the tail), so I'd have to give the slight edge to the S4 for skiing switch.
Oct 20 2011 8:45PM
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Enstrut
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LINE makes shit skis, buy Armada
Oct 20 2011 8:53PM
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TheAfterBang
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AR7 no doubt bro
Oct 20 2011 9:17PM
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joshua
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They used to have some good stuff. Their current park stuff is pretty garbo tho except for mabeye the chronics. BRING BACK THE ANTHEMS AND INVADERS!
Oct 20 2011 9:18PM
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ForeverYung
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I have the afterbangs and personally i love them there really not that slow if you just wax em up and there amazing on rails, not the best on jumps but it's doable, and I really don't have any problems on groomers, I'll rip down em getting to the park overall it's a fun ski. But it's all about your opinion
Oct 20 2011 11:03PM
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snl093
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so half says scratch half says ar7 haha great!
Oct 21 2011 1:08AM
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BWalmer
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So now's when you make up your own mind. If you're able to go to a shop and physically touch the two skis it will help you make a decision. If not, you'll just have to pick one, really no one here can pick the ski for you because we all have different riding styles and look for different things in skis. You've gotten narrowed down to two very good skis, either way you're not going to be upset with them, it just comes down to picking one. I will tell you that really the biggest difference is the flex, the AR7 is slightly softer in the tip than the Scratch, so if you want a softer ski go there, if not go with the scratch.
Oct 21 2011 9:21AM
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snl093
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i live in mammoth and ill go check em out this weekend
Oct 21 2011 7:58PM
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snl093
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ar7 will be! better for me i think
Oct 22 2011 2:25AM
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