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F1 Coming to America....

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H8CH
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Been looking forward to this since the original announcement last year - the circuit looks amazing (designed by the same guy who designed Abu Dhabi and Bahrain's circuits...

and then - I saw this.... (on Jon's blog too) Austin is the coolest city on earth too... I'll definately be at this next november

and inb4 - that's so red bull...

Oct 18 2011 1:19PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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I wonder how the engines held up in that dirt? Should be interesting. Red bull racing is killing it this season.
Oct 18 2011 1:22PM
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H8CH
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That must have been a total rebuild afterwards....

Oct 18 2011 1:26PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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how fast do they go?
Oct 18 2011 1:29PM
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uosdwiSrjewoH
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Oct 18 2011 1:31PM
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sammiedee
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I feel bad for the car
Oct 18 2011 1:31PM
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Ski_the_east01
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it was probably be decommissioned

he must have been sore as shit after that filming though, those things arent exactly built to be comfort cruisers

track looks awesome tho, cant wait for the race
Oct 18 2011 1:33PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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they go fast, don't worry. these things are the pinnacle of racing technology.
Oct 18 2011 1:33PM
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cab509
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F1 has been to America many times before. they used to race at indy. I am however happy that F1 will be returning to America.
Oct 18 2011 1:33PM
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H8CH
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It has always failed before because America has never had a purpose built F1 circuit... the format hasn't worked on Indy circuits and the street ciruits over here are shit (all 90 deg turns!!)

Ecclestone has signed a 10 year deal for the US grand prix starting next year - 2012 - 2022. Building a ground up, purpose built F1 circuit (as i mentioned, designed by the best in the world) complete with all the facilities for teams and spectators - and in an amazing city - Austin. in November too - the weather will be perfect...

Awesome facility too - can't wait to take the old C63 up there for a batter around that thing! Loads of elevation change too - turn 1 looks super intense.
Oct 18 2011 1:37PM
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skithebert
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I live about 10 min from this track
Oct 18 2011 1:45PM
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H8CH
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Where????

I'm close too...
Oct 18 2011 1:46PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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i know they go fast, but how fast? like whats the top speed of one?
Oct 18 2011 1:57PM
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H8CH
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_car
Oct 18 2011 2:02PM
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Flying~Squirrel
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thanks, but my honda civic can do that, im not too impressed
Oct 18 2011 2:09PM
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Boooshank
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David Coulthard killing it.

Man has a serious chin. Nuff said.
Oct 18 2011 2:11PM
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Hoppy
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Coulthard.....and his wonder chin
Oct 18 2011 2:12PM
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skithebert
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I live in central austin, hyde park. goin to gradschool at UT. austin is a great town
Oct 18 2011 2:12PM
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H8CH
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That must be some honda civic...

Performance
Grand Prix cars and the cutting edge technology that constitute them produce an unprecedented combination of outright speed and quickness for the drivers. Every F1 car on the grid is capable of going from 0 to 160 km/h (100 mph) and back to 0 in less than five seconds. During a demonstration at the Silverstone circuit in Britain, an F1 McLaren-Mercedes car driven by David Coulthard gave a pair of Mercedes-Benz street cars a head start of seventy seconds, and was able to beat the cars to the finish line from a standing start, a distance of only 3.2 miles (5.2 km).[16]

As well as being fast in a straight line, F1 cars also have incredible cornering ability. Grand Prix cars can negotiate corners at significantly higher speeds than other racing cars because of the intense levels of grip and downforce. Cornering speed is so high that Formula One drivers have strength training routines just for the neck muscles . Former F1 driver Juan Pablo Montoya claimed to be able to perform 300 repetitions of 50 lb (23 kg) with his neck. Since most tracks are clockwise, most drivers have the neck muscles built up on one side of their neck,[citation needed] thus making counter-clockwise tracks (such as Imola, Istanbul Park and Interlagos) a much more testing race than even the high speed Monza or the tight and narrow Monaco.

The combination of light weight (640 kg in race trim for 2011), power (950 bhp with the 3.0 L V10, 730 bhp (544 kW) with the 2007 regulation 2.4 L V8), aerodynamics, and ultra-high performance tyres is what gives the F1 car its performance figures. The principal consideration for F1 designers is acceleration, and not simply top speed. Acceleration is not just linear forward acceleration, but three types of acceleration can be considered for an F1 car's, and all cars' in general, performance:

Linear acceleration (speeding up)
Linear deceleration (braking)
Lateral acceleration (turning)
All three accelerations should be maximised. The way these three accelerations are obtained and their values are:

Acceleration
The 2006 F1 cars have a power-to-weight ratio of 1,250 hp/t (0.93 kW/kg). Theoretically this would allow the car to reach 100 km/h (60 mph) in less than 1 second. However the massive power cannot be converted to motion at low speeds due to traction loss and the usual figure is 2 seconds to reach 100 km/h (60 mph). After about 130 km/h (80 mph) traction loss is minimal due to the combined effect of the car moving faster and the downforce, hence the car continues accelerating at a very high rate. The figures are (for the 2006 Renault R26):[citation needed]

0 to 100 km/h (62 mph): 1.7 seconds
0 to 200 km/h (124 mph): 3.8 seconds
0 to 300 km/h (186 mph): 8.6 seconds*
*Figures are heavily dependent on aerodynamic setup and gearing.

The acceleration figure is usually 1.45 g (14.2 m/s2) up to 200 km/h (124 mph), which means the driver is pushed back in the seat at an acceleration 1.45 times gravity.[citation needed]

Oct 18 2011 2:15PM
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WikiWiki
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Booyah Ill be there with a few friends- making a road trip down and camping Lemans style since every hotel room is gonna be booked and super expensive.


Races im going to next year are

F1 in Montreal and Austin
ALMS in Baltimore, Lime Rock
Indy in Baltimore
Hopefully NHRA in Maple Grove
and some other stuff including Formula D in Jersey

Camping at Lime Rock and Austin- race camping is seriously a blast
Oct 18 2011 2:38PM
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Boooshank
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Bahahahahahahahah!!! Diludid.
Oct 18 2011 2:41PM
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spere
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Wonder if this means they are gonna run MotoGp there as well, that would be awesome
Oct 18 2011 3:44PM
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WikiWiki
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They are next year- as well as bringing over the Australian Supercars
Oct 18 2011 3:46PM
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spere
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fuck yes
Oct 18 2011 3:47PM
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PhaedeD
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they rebuild these entire cars for the most part after every race. engines as well, complete tare downs for all mechanical moving parts.

At least its not as bad as dragsters.. they rebuild those engines after every single run down the track!! I guess you have to when you are making like 8 thousand horsepower out of a fucking cam and piston engine hahaha
Oct 18 2011 3:55PM
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Hoppy
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Are you sure? They already run Laguna Seca and Indianapolis, cant see there being another in the US
Oct 18 2011 4:17PM
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WikiWiki
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http://circuitoftheamericas.com/
Oct 18 2011 4:43PM
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spere
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website says MotoGp in 2013, still awesome though
Oct 18 2011 4:48PM
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skithebert
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the weather in november in austin is perfect. camping will be nice.
Oct 18 2011 4:53PM
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BootySpunk.
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Don't argue with an engineer.

F1 cars are fucking sick. They corner so unbelievably quick.
Oct 18 2011 4:58PM
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SeanTom
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i <3 phantom flex
Oct 18 2011 5:01PM
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Thenowhereman42
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>Austin
>Coolest City on Earth

lol
Oct 18 2011 5:04PM
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PacificRimJob
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Too bad it's still in stupid Texas... Why you'd slap F1 in the middle of Nascar country, I don't know.

Sorry to discount Texas F1 fans (Craig, you're not Texan, so you don't count haha) but I'd really hate to see this be a failure like indy was.
Oct 18 2011 5:19PM
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BootySpunk.
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Don't argue with an engineer.

F1 cars are fucking sick. They corner so unbelievably quick.
Oct 18 2011 5:29PM
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skituner
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Oct 18 2011 10:13PM
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skituner
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okay the full size wont work, here's the link http://www.autoblog.com/photos/f1-infographic/full/#4270023
crazyy shit, so stoked to see it in person
Oct 18 2011 10:15PM
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egg.
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NICECAR
Oct 18 2011 10:20PM
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H8CH
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Austin is mega though... one of my favorite cities in the world... you'd love it Sean-o....

So laid back - great music scene.... the F1 there will be a huge party and there will probably be a bunch of music festivals and events that sporn out of this weekend (monaco style) because the city is just perfect for that kind of thing.

Should have a massive NS meetup.... I'll definately be going all out baller style - top hotel and we'll probably arrange a corporate or VIP deal for the race itself.... it's F1 at the end of the day.

I doubt it'll be a failure because it's got a huge backing - from Ecclestone and Austin and world motorsport. The investment that's been made is huge - and for F1 to work in the US, you need a purpose built track and venue... which you'll have now (it's very different from Indy series).... and the weather will be amazing then too.... mid 70's, dry and sunny.... not to mention that circuit (from the Circuit of the america's website) looks fucking awesome - essentially a combination of the best corners from Silverstone, Istanbul and Hockenheim.... = Very fast with lot's of elevation change. As i said before - Turn 1 looks like it could become a classic - up hill start from the grid in to it....

Oct 18 2011 10:30PM
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geteducated
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tilke is doing that track. total snoozefest.
Oct 18 2011 11:19PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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i've been to limerock twice for american le mans series races before, it's a nice place, so is CT.

they should have done it somewhere with really cold air. although whats the elevation there in texas? probably not too high. whatever, it'll probably be sick. and for people who don't know, look at how sick other F1 tracks are,
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but if you go on F1's site there's tons of cool photos/videos and information.

Also, hopefully people from other countries will come, i've said it before; F1 is the most elite sport on the planet and attracts some wealthy people who probably think US, texas of all places is full of slobs (no offense but the south probably isn't viewed well by the rest of the world)
Oct 18 2011 11:31PM
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skithebert
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haha, you've clearly never been to austin. i think the rich people will be just fine. Click for larger image

actually, thanks to george bush, most foreigners assume all americans are texans anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it.
Oct 19 2011 12:51AM
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PacificRimJob
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No, dont get me wrong, Austin's cool and all. I've been there on 2 occasions and it's definitely the best thing Texas has - Period.

...I just don't think of Texas and think of F1 culture, that's all.

I guess I really just wished they built it in California haha.
Oct 19 2011 1:44AM
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theabortionator
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dope
Oct 19 2011 1:52AM
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PhaedeD
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doesnt matter if it has the cultural really. there are enough die hard F1 fans in the US that most people will probably make the trip there to see it.

not doubting it may get a better turn out if it were built somewhere life California.
Oct 19 2011 2:23AM
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PacificRimJob
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Yeah, I know that it will still get plenty of people there to see the event. NOT doubting that.. and I really dont want to knock it.

I just really wish it was closer :)
Oct 19 2011 2:49AM
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XtRemE11
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the US has amazing tracks easily some of the best in the world. we have more great tracks than any 1 country. and our street circuits for the most part are awesome too. (though nothing can compete with monaco) and i think we win when it comes to ovals.


Oct 19 2011 3:43AM
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H8CH
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It woulnd't pass all your stupid californian emissions and noise regulations... haha

Oct 19 2011 9:33AM
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PacificRimJob
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Racecourses are exempt from Emissions regulations haha. Noise wouldn't be a problem really, considering the event would probably be placed somewhere in the California foothills where theres better terrain to work with, and its far enough from massive population centres.

For the longest time, Folsom, CA was talking about building a top tier modern racetrack for the Sacramento Area... Considering it has lots of open space and is within proximity to large infrastructure, it was prime location. Sacramento also considered building a Top Road Circuit on what was formerly Mather Air Force base (think Silverstone - California USA style) which would have been SICK.

Clovis, CA, which is near Fresno was also considered for one in Recent years. Same with Alpine, CA right by San Diego.
Oct 19 2011 9:46AM
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PhaedeD
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Europe has far superior tracks for F1 cars thats for sure. We have some very good tracks for other types of racing no doubt.
Oct 19 2011 9:50AM
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skithebert
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California is bankrupt and would NEVER fund the damn thing. How's that LA football stadium coming along? Austin is one of the few cities in the US with the willingness to tax themselves and build it. It's escaped the worst of the recession because there wasn't a giant housing bubble like in CA. But there was a serious battle among city officials and came very close to not happening at all.
Oct 19 2011 11:04AM
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PacificRimJob
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Lol. Trust me I'm fully aware of California's budget issues, guy. It sucks, but meh. That's how the shit flies eh.
Oct 19 2011 11:09AM
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