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84891jnf92048
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 Hey Gear Talk!

I usually don't like to ask questions about skis here, but i am officially stumped. I am looking for a pretty specific ski, and i had one in mind, but it turns out that it is not being produced until next year.

I am looking for a symmetrical or near-symmetrical ski that will ski park and all mountain. Preferably around 95-100 underfoot, with rocker. I am hoping for something soft and playful, and also light. I am 5' 9", around 180, and will be using this ski for mostly park and all mountain, but occasionally powder if we get anything that slightly resembles it here on the east, that i do not deem actually deep enough for my pow skis.

I h ave been looking at the Rossignol Scimitars. Has anybody skied t hem since they added rocker? Good choice?

Oct 10 2011 4:52PM
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mountainviper
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Dude this years bacons are waaaaay sick.
Oct 10 2011 5:14PM
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Banane.
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Kung fujas ?
Oct 10 2011 6:18PM
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captainEMERICA
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This years Moment Tahoe? Not as symmetrical as I think you might look but worth lookin at
Oct 10 2011 7:35PM
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TheAfterBang
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This year's Sir Francis Bacons are the way to go for suuuure as you want an almost symmetrical all mountain slayer
Oct 10 2011 7:41PM
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Twig
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If you find it, please tell me. I want exactly this ski. Most of the options I've looked at (ON3P JMO, Moment PB&J, Volkl Bridge and Rossi Scimitar) seem likely to be too stiff for my skinny self.
Oct 10 2011 7:46PM
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@tlas
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blends seem perfect for you!
Oct 10 2011 7:47PM
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lukewalnuts
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maybe on3p j-mo...
Oct 10 2011 8:10PM
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schism
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not rockered, but seems right up your ally is the atomic patent.
Oct 10 2011 8:30PM
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84891jnf92048
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bacons are out- too wide, too heavy, and I don't want a tapered ski. this is really mostly meant to be a midfat playful park ski.
Oct 10 2011 8:39PM
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TheAfterBang
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Bump for scott punisher jibs bro what you think about'em?
Oct 10 2011 8:55PM
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LAME.
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Honestly charlie, line chronic.
Oct 10 2011 9:10PM
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Parks.
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what happened to the pricey skis you got at windells? those were sick and what like 50 bucks? haha just use those. isk but maybe the bacons....idk if id get moments, they are really imperfect cuz they are handmade....at least mine are
Oct 10 2011 9:35PM
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585.
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my guess would be that those skis probably do not fit what he is looking for in a ski. otherwise if they were a ski to fit his specific needs/wants he prolly wouldnt have made this thread.
Oct 10 2011 9:48PM
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Keith.
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Line Blend sounds like what your looking for. If your looking for a little more all mountain/park oriented and your ok with camber chronic. Both great skis
Oct 10 2011 9:48PM
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DGski
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i really dont think line blend is what hes looking for
Oct 10 2011 9:58PM
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*simba*
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Pussy.
Fuck weight.
Oct 10 2011 10:01PM
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C_Thomps-12
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liberty helix
Oct 10 2011 10:27PM
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Lemuel
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Blend
s3
zero

They are all soft and dope skis alarm clock.
Oct 10 2011 11:00PM
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AJizzle
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Salomon 2012 are super playful, rockered, symmetrical twin thats 91 underfoot, maybe a little too skinny for what ur looking for
Oct 11 2011 5:06AM
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1337
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watch lifes?
Oct 11 2011 7:51AM
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SIX
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If you want rocker, almost symmetrical and a 90 underfoot: coreupt banger
Oct 11 2011 8:48AM
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Justo8484
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there are actually a lot of skis that fall into this range. the kung fujas would probably be a good choice since it's pretty close to symmetrical and is basically a wide park ski with rocker. the on3p jeffrey is 108 underfoot, true twin, and rocker camber rocker, and at your weight, definitely won't be too stiff for you, but i believe it only comes in a 186 which may be a bit longer than you're looking for. for what it's worth, i don't find the blends to be good for much aside from jumping, and if you're concerned about weight, they're thick and pretty heavy...
Oct 11 2011 9:05AM
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84891jnf92048
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a real concern of mine is weight. a lot of the tricks I do involve a lot of twisting and turning which i cannot do on a heavy ski, hence why I have surfaces and I am looking at rossis. k2s aren't too heavy, are they?
Oct 11 2011 9:12AM
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1337
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i thought k2 and volkl both made really beefy/heavy skis
Oct 11 2011 9:35AM
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RyandaGod
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i would say k2s in general are kinda heavy...
Oct 11 2011 9:38AM
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Vino
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s3 or j-mos
Oct 11 2011 10:51AM
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84891jnf92048
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that's what I thought, along with line...
Oct 11 2011 2:03PM
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Balto
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k2's are dead weight
volkl's are better, but im not a fan of any of their shapes
Oct 11 2011 2:05PM
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amo
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Other than being symmetrical you basically described the Moment PB&J

- Near symmetrical
- 101 Underfoot
- Not a noodle, but one of their softer skis
- Mustache rocker
- All mountain ripper

"If you need one ski to do it all, you’ll love the PB&J. It has enough width for deep days, symmetrical flex and a forward mount for switch riding, plus MUSTACHE rocker/camber for dominating anything in between. Hand-crafted in Reno like every Moment ski, it’s a tasty homemade sandwich that will satisfy your one-ski-quiver appetite."

www.momentskis.com/shop/product/pb-j/
Oct 11 2011 3:02PM
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Keith.
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eh. Whatever. Thats why were not making the decision for him haha.
Oct 11 2011 4:06PM
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84891jnf92048
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I have actually been looking at it.

Moments are super light, right? I skied on a pair of Reno Jibs once, they felt like I wasnt on skis.
Oct 11 2011 4:10PM
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DOSE.
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This thread is good because I'm in the same boat. I too am looking at the PB&J. I am the same weight but I'm 6'1.
Oct 11 2011 4:17PM
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DUKES
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182s or 188s for you

Oct 11 2011 4:45PM
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TheClap.
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moment rocker, or w.e it is called now (vice maybe?)
Oct 11 2011 4:54PM
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.nasty
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on3p j-mo
Oct 11 2011 4:57PM
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Balto
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360's don't require a lot of twisting and turning

go to the fucking gym and stop worrying about ski weight, the only time it matters is if you are skinning. not to mention bindings play a larger role in weight then the ski it self. the only people that bitch about park ski weight are shitty skiers with no lower body strength
Oct 11 2011 5:22PM
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84891jnf92048
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reverting this to forward does:

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But I didn't ask for you to be a dick, I asked for simple ski advice. Ok, thank you, goodbye.
Oct 11 2011 5:24PM
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Balto
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all that is is a tweaked out shifty, which is not hard to revert. like i said, go to the gym, loose some weight, gain some leg/core strength, and stop being a whiny bitch about park ski weight, it doesn't fucking matter if you are the good skier you seem to think you are
Oct 11 2011 5:28PM
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84891jnf92048
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losing weight would actually make that trick harder. the skis would have the same rotational forces, but my body would be lighter, and be more affected by my skis turning. A heavier body, according Newton's second law, will require more energy to turn, so I could turn my legs just as much behind me, and my body would stay facing forward more.
Oct 11 2011 5:32PM
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*simba*
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Oct 11 2011 5:41PM
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amo
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And to nebula, I've never skied them, but i hear that Moments are particularly light
Oct 11 2011 5:42PM
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TheWeaz
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rocker your old S5s, or your double times and sell me the S5s
Oct 11 2011 6:11PM
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wesley.
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doesn't 100 percent fit your request but the rossi s3 koopmans. They're fun, light, rockered, and fit your width requirements
Oct 11 2011 6:29PM
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LAME.
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Ya, i was also going to bring this up.
Yes some skis are heavier than others, but honestly you wont fucking notice it. You can do gay shitfy taps on anything.
Oct 11 2011 6:44PM
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84891jnf92048
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I notice it.
Oct 11 2011 6:49PM
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Balto
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because you are weak

you ride surfaces with 185s, if you can do those gay ballerina tricks on those, then you will have no problem on anything else.
Oct 11 2011 6:53PM
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84891jnf92048
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go fuck yourself.^
Oct 11 2011 8:01PM
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family_vacation
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Cop some invader minis with salomon z10s, those will be money.

or get some real skis like s4s, or vices. My buddies were on vices last year and seemed to enjoy them alot. Like everyone else was saying though, weight won't be a big deal at all. You can do shifties on any park ski out there.
Oct 11 2011 9:02PM
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rudedog41
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definately blends...soft and playful good for all mountain....slay park like witt foster and ever go for pow when you can get it
Oct 11 2011 9:18PM
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TheAfterBang
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Wtf bro stop hating on him the guy's absolutely right he just asked for advice dont be such an ass
Oct 11 2011 9:30PM
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