Member of the Month

KilaTsunami
October, 2024

Online

Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!

Medical marijuana in california being shut down

profile picture
TACO-DOG.exe
Posts: 11988 - Karma: 12,261
The Obama administration has ordered all medical-marijuana dispensaries in California to shut down within 45 days or they will be prosecuted and have their property confiscated for violating federal drugs laws, the Associated Press reports.

Even licensed outlets operating under the 1996 voter-approved medical-marijuana law are subject to the federal crackdown. California's four U.S. attorneys plan an announcement Friday.

AP says the federal prosecutors have notified at least 16 pot shops or their landlords.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/10/feds-order-all-calif-medical-marijuana-outlets-to-close/1

discuss..
Oct 6 2011 7:36PM
0 0
profile picture
sherwood4099
Posts: 1173 - Karma: 22
Too true. I feel bad for terminally I'll patients o actually get relief from it because the majority of people who have it and support it use it as a back door for legalization. It's made the whole system a joke when it comes to legitimizing the idea on a national scale. The majority of people defiantly are just trying to get high
Oct 6 2011 9:09PM
0 0
profile picture
RubberSoul
Posts: 11249 - Karma: 14,642
regardless of whether or not that's true, that doesnt offer any reasoning why it has anything to do with you or affects you in the slightest. oh and god forbid people like to do something as utterly harmless as getting high. pretty interesting that you dont mind people drinking but the idea of someone smoking is a real burden on you

oh and your second part makes perfect sense. "i think it should be illegal... because it's illegal." youre a master of reasoning bro
Oct 6 2011 9:10PM
0 0
profile picture
LiveSnowJKS
Posts: 199 - Karma: 10
its bullshit but i heard its because theyre not paying their illegal substance taxes or something..an old law made for legalized substances being sold
Oct 6 2011 9:10PM
0 0
profile picture
El_Barto.
Posts: 11661 - Karma: 24,364
this is gonna make some many peeps make so many more monies
Oct 6 2011 9:22PM
0 0
profile picture
FLBP
Posts: 1794 - Karma: 310
they're fuckin shit up in montana too.. I'm mad
Oct 6 2011 9:25PM
0 0
profile picture
LittleFoot
Posts: 1667 - Karma: 57
I didnt mind him but now I hate him. Thats how informed i am on politics
Oct 6 2011 9:25PM
0 0
profile picture
LeadThug420
Posts: 869 - Karma: 26
Lower profile?  What are you smoking.  Denver alone has over 300 medical marijuana dispensaries.  Even foreign news agencies have taken notice.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011659/More-medical-marijuana-dispensaries-Starbucks-Denver-Colorado.html
Oct 6 2011 9:28PM
0 0
profile picture
JamesR
Posts: 3396 - Karma: -12
it's not illegal because of paper companies. it's illegal because the government makes a lot of money on "drug enforcement"
Oct 6 2011 9:44PM
0 0
profile picture
sherwood4099
Posts: 1173 - Karma: 22
It's defiantly the second most notable but give me a break you do t really think it's higher profile than California. California has lead the may legally and been profiled in specials on like 12 individual channels. Colorado honestly has a better program and better product in the clubs in my experience but California is the publicized program that causes them the most embarrassment and provides the most opportune chance to cash in on tax evasion cases, sales and income tax etc Not to mention they are indeed dealing with California first. So what are you smoking?
Oct 6 2011 9:54PM
0 0
profile picture
TACO-DOG.exe
Posts: 11988 - Karma: 12,261
whoops forgot to inb4 shitstorm
Oct 6 2011 9:56PM
0 0
profile picture
General_Ripper
Posts: 3327 - Karma: 189
Medical Marijuana doesn't bother me for normal people who need it, and for hard working Americans who want to chill.

What is fucking bullshit is that lazy people on medicaid and shit who get money from the government to pay for their medical expenses are just fucking buying weed with tax money.

I also think people on wellfare should get drug tested frequently. If you have money to get fucked up then you have money to buy food and shit.

Disclaimer: I know there is people who actually need medicaid I'm talking about the other 50% who abuse the system asshat
Oct 6 2011 10:02PM
0 0
profile picture
General_Ripper
Posts: 3327 - Karma: 189
Yea its pretty harmless, to get high on that 25% that gets taken out of your paycheck right?
Oct 6 2011 10:04PM
0 0
profile picture
thelizards
Posts: 4042 - Karma: 43
hey jib junkie, you're a fag.




And Obama is a fucking crook
Oct 6 2011 10:21PM
0 0
profile picture
LeadThug420
Posts: 869 - Karma: 26
Oh, I'm sorry.  I must've missed your news article from a London newspaper showing how prolific california's program has become worldwide.
Oct 6 2011 10:22PM
0 0
profile picture
factory81
Posts: 3967 - Karma: 63
i cant fucking BELIEVE obama is doing this shit. I can't fucking believe it. He is supposed to be the liberal jesus and he is letting his administration actively play a role in this medical marijuana game.

I was hoping Obama would just be complacent on the issue and turn a blind eye. What is he looking for? People to hit the streets for marijuana to be legalized? (i have a minor conspiracy theory in my head that obama/democratic national campaign probably helped support/organize the occupy wallstreet groups so that they can get a very populist yet left-winging argument going).

michigan had a similar thing go in to effect recently, but it wasn't by the govt's direction. They basically had the same approach though - Medical dispensaries are not allowed to operate.


I have been very supportive of Obama in nearly all areas - but this is over the top. I can nearly fucking assure you that there will be at least 10 youtube videos of people confronting Obama on this issue thankfully.
Oct 6 2011 10:32PM
0 0
profile picture
division.bell
Posts: 2762 - Karma: 1,905
Wow, saved by Youtube, thank God for that...

Make your fucking point. What good is people complaining on Youtube?
Oct 6 2011 10:37PM
0 0
profile picture
thebeesknees
Posts: 3660 - Karma: 160
so this is what he said when he meant change...thats what people get when they vote for him because he's half black
Oct 6 2011 10:44PM
0 0
profile picture
factory81
Posts: 3967 - Karma: 63
growers have had pipe dreams of opening dispensaries and dumping their excess product on to them for eons. growers always know unemployed people looking for easy work (trimming, selling bud).

if not from the growers own fascination with marijuana the dispensary gets off the ground, then it is the John Doe church-goer who has wanted to be Scarface or any individual who is aware of the obvious profits in drugs. Then to be able to do this with a shred of legitimacy makes it seem even legal.


I find dispensaries to be a terrible solution to the problem of providing better access to high quality marijuana. The nature of "everything" makes it so that anything more than a small amount of one strain becomes excessive to own, or difficult to procure, or difficult to sell. As a dispensary you are charged with keeping lots of product and lots of variety. You buy lots of good-and mediocre weed. Then you pass off those buds to the customers. The problem is that the very buds the dispensaries are getting are just rejected buds really. It is so rare for dispensaries to actually sell their good stuff. It is more often than not sold out by bogarting it for themselves and close friends. So that original 2 ounce is gone before a customer is even looking at it. Most dispensaries seem to be big fans of purchasing 2 ounces of one strain at a time (in Michigan).

So the point being is that the product is so constantly moving that even if you like XYZ by the time you visit again it is changed up, and with the odds stacked against you there isn't a good chance you will even buy something truly amazing. There just never is enough good weed...
Oct 6 2011 10:45PM
0 0
profile picture
sherwood4099
Posts: 1173 - Karma: 22
Your article says absolutely nothing about which is more publicized in the medi or which was a bigger priority for government enforcement or regulation. That article actually had no useful or informative content at all hahahah. It was about how there are more clubs than Starbucks and some stupid weed critics review of the pot he bought. Wtf are you talking about
Oct 6 2011 10:46PM
0 0
profile picture
*simba*
Posts: 9125 - Karma: 512
ITT: Some people that know what they're talking about...but mostly kids that don't know jack shit about government/politics and are just mad because they're taking away weed.

cool.
Oct 6 2011 10:47PM
0 0
profile picture
Charlie_Kelly
Posts: 11954 - Karma: 12,297
what a mature and logical post filled with insight and intelligence.

Get the fuck out of NS.
Oct 6 2011 11:20PM
0 0
profile picture
BMB
Posts: 3138 - Karma: 232
haha yeah right
Oct 6 2011 11:21PM
0 0
profile picture
northeast
Posts: 2119 - Karma: 254
fuuuuckin nader guys, shoulda gone for nader.
Oct 6 2011 11:36PM
0 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51614 - Karma: 162,020
same rant different thread.


Lol at anyone who thought he was going to legalize weed. Lol at deadheads for obama.



Obama sucks, deal with it


Weed will still be illegal 10+ years from now.


Oct 7 2011 1:06PM
0 0
profile picture
Alex_G
Posts: 11902 - Karma: 1,019
that's it, i'm voting for Ron Paul. Never thought I would say this. Rez4fredrik you win. after all these years.
Oct 7 2011 1:13PM
0 0
profile picture
GayWolf420
Posts: 37372 - Karma: 119,843
It does suck but too many people have abused it and gotten a hold of medicaid for non-legitimate reasons.
Oct 7 2011 1:18PM
0 0
profile picture
Mr.Panda
Posts: 17711 - Karma: 564
The Dems trolled this one... as well as like 90% of this thread. Yup, they totally care about making pot legal for yall.
Oct 7 2011 1:21PM
0 0
profile picture
PacificRimJob
Posts: 24725 - Karma: 29,944
Haha him being president is about as likely as weed becoming legalized.
Oct 7 2011 1:23PM
0 0
profile picture
*Dos*Planker*
Posts: 2983 - Karma: 168
this sucks
Oct 7 2011 1:24PM
0 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51614 - Karma: 162,020
Abused it, lol.


You can't really abuse it. I me yeah i know what you're saying but who cares.


This whole drug war thing is fucking stupid. I want to walk around like rafiki and smack sense into people by smacking them in the face with my staff.
Oct 7 2011 1:26PM
0 0
profile picture
KAS
Posts: 1417 - Karma: 68


Just because he's the president doesn't mean every decision is his and his only.

Oct 7 2011 1:31PM
0 0
profile picture
.AR6rider.
Posts: 15976 - Karma: 8,799
Hahaha this thread is awesome. A bunch of little stoner kids are mad that they can't get medical marijuana for their "back pain" or whatever other bullshit excuse they use, and now are hating on Obama. Medical marijuana is a fucking joke, and I'm guessing 1% of people who use it actually "need" it.
Oct 7 2011 1:32PM
0 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51614 - Karma: 162,020
Lol, what has obama done that's been any good?



Another we want change kid
Oct 7 2011 1:33PM
0 0
profile picture
TheHamburglar
Posts: 3895 - Karma: 3,314
duh, when norml couldn't legalize it straight up in the 70s & 80s they had to resort to using the word "medical" to pass it, it was bullshit from the beginning and it's openly admitted


anyway, its not every dispensary, its "at least 16," 12 of which are in SD

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/10/feds-order-all-calif-medical-marijuana-outlets-to-close/1
Oct 7 2011 1:36PM
0 0
profile picture
sherwood4099
Posts: 1173 - Karma: 22
So true. I have some many friends who since getting their cards have actually come to believe they have the conditions they made up originally to get high. It's hilarious hearing them defend medMarj jackasses are going to ruin it for the people who actually need it
Oct 7 2011 1:38PM
0 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51614 - Karma: 162,020
you're stupid
Oct 7 2011 1:42PM
0 0
profile picture
deleted5
Posts: 14507 - Karma: 13,507
your joking right you can do with with anyone who has ever been in the government.
Oct 7 2011 1:43PM
0 0
profile picture
.Blake.
Posts: 1911 - Karma: 38
Country is in economic recession
Jobless claims rate at all time high

Make marijuanna legal, tax it, generate millions of dollars, create new jobs


Oct 7 2011 1:45PM
0 0
profile picture
.AR6rider.
Posts: 15976 - Karma: 8,799
Why is that? You honestly think all the stupid stoner teenagers need medical marijuana? It's just an outlet for them to legally get weed by making up bullshit excuses and thus ruining what it was originally designed for. The whole thing is a big fucking joke.
Oct 7 2011 1:46PM
0 0
profile picture
Balto
Posts: 25985 - Karma: 4,404
they have told 16 to shut down, do you know how many there are? Wayyyyyyyy more then that.

California voted for MM, this isn't going to stop them. Remember that under the Bush administration all dispensaries were considered illegal, but california law said other wise(and still does) and they continued to flourish. Not to mention all the money cali brings in from taxis on this industry, there is no way they are going to stand by and let the feds crack down on them.
Oct 7 2011 1:48PM
0 0
profile picture
Bloom.
Posts: 3540 - Karma: 13,299
Yup, America sold out a long time ago
Oct 7 2011 1:50PM
0 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51614 - Karma: 162,020
Well I agree that medical marijuana is a joke.

they should just legalize the shit and put an end to this shit.

Legalize drugs, end prohibition, profit
Oct 7 2011 2:15PM
0 0
profile picture
PacificRimJob
Posts: 24725 - Karma: 29,944
Troll. Fake and gay.
Oct 7 2011 2:29PM
0 0
profile picture
sherwood4099
Posts: 1173 - Karma: 22
I'm not trolling medical cards are becoming very popular in Olympia, WA and I have several friends who are healthy mid-20s and have convinced their selves since becoming medicated that they actually require weed for health reasons or justify it by saying I helps them with shit. And all of them were just stoners before it became easier to get cards 2 years ago
Oct 7 2011 2:31PM
0 0
profile picture
Yung_Gnarley
Posts: 9092 - Karma: 3,022
Why does anyone care?
Oct 7 2011 2:35PM
0 0
profile picture
PacificRimJob
Posts: 24725 - Karma: 29,944
You think it's not easy as fuck to get other, more gnarly prescriptions? I could go out and get Adderol right now if I really wanted to... that's basically legal meth... Everyone who has ADD (which is literally everyone if you think about it) can go in there and get it if they want...
Oct 7 2011 2:37PM
0 0
profile picture
sherwood4099
Posts: 1173 - Karma: 22
I would guess the terminally ill that get relief from it. They are being delegitimized by stoners who get medicated for recreational use
Oct 7 2011 2:37PM
0 0
profile picture
Abu_Hajaar
Posts: 2749 - Karma: 3,907
What about states where medicinal pot laws are still pending,are they not going to be able to pass those laws
Oct 7 2011 2:42PM
0 0
profile picture
sherwood4099
Posts: 1173 - Karma: 22
Not really relatable to medical marijuana. My point from the beginning has been that recational users make up a majority of the medicated pot smokers and considering medical marijuana is still a fringe treatment that is pushing hard for social acceptense I think that impact of recreational users on the image people have of medical marijuana is really negative
Oct 7 2011 2:43PM
0 0
profile picture
Yung_Gnarley
Posts: 9092 - Karma: 3,022
No I meant politicians.
Oct 7 2011 2:44PM
0 0
All times are Eastern (-5)