Heaven...

If you believe all that stuff than yea it is worth it, but for the rest of us, its fun to not believe that and hope that we don't get a life sentance in hell

Santa Claus > Heaven

religions that contain preachings like that are a gigantic boatload of fairytale bullshit.

I don't "believe" anything.  I'm just thinking out loud. 

ATHEIST/ FTW

Dude the tag on that pic is hilarious

#thinkingoutloud

inb4 ignorant atheists who think they are better than everyone.

I thought it was the other way around? 

fuck religion

You're telling me that Buddhists and Hindu's are ignorant to other religions? What about the Sikhs?

No you werent, you were close but not good enough.

me 2

No, actually I'm not. 

I'm simply saying I've had more "people of God" get all judgy on me than anyone else, as if not praying a certain way or not going to church made me any worse of a person.    

Just look at the posts above me, prime example. Almost all of them are trashing religion. Have you seen one Religious person being ignorant above my post...? Exactly, so shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up?  Dude... 

Your literary and argumenative powers seriously leave something to be desired.  You completely ignored my post, substituted your own bullshit angry mental ramblings in place of my response to your question, then proceed to tell ME to shut the fuck up because somebody else said fuck religion??? 

Oh, and FYI- there IS a religious person acting like a total jerkoff in this thread...  It's you.         

There's no way that 90% of dead people do not go to heaven... Going to heaven is not based on weather you do drugs and have sex or not.

hmm. I've had the opposite experience.  I believe in God-- yes I'll probably get Karma raped now-- but I keep it to myself for the most part. I don't talk about religion to people or try to push any of my beliefs on anyone. But, I'd say about once every 3-6 months someone who thinks God is bullshit or a fairy tale will ask me if I'm religious and then try to tell me how stupid I am and put me in my place. 

I agree.  I think that whether or not you go to heaven is based on whether you're a genuinely good person or not.

Well then you got my point exactly!  :) 

I'm not a judgemental person in the least.  We're all entitled to our opinions imo.  If going to church and being religious keeps you feeling good and motivated to do right, more power to ya!  I'm more spiritual than religious tho, so please excuse my propensity for thinking out loud and disproving things I previously just accepted.  I like to punch holes in my point of view, it keeps me fresh.   

Funny thing is, I'm humanist.

i find it funny you guys believe there's more to life after you die.

If all gay people go to hell, then hell is going to be FABULOUS.

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the only thing i follow is karma. all the god shit i do not believe in. for example i found 100 dollars on the ground kept it. that night i fucked up my big toe and blew chunks.

I'm agnostic anyway.


Not saying that this make christianity look retarded but at least the pretty standard approach to it regardless of how good a representation of the og religion it is. Run on grammar blah whatever






So God existed for every. Ever was, for ever to come. Soe most christian experts believe the earth is around 7 thousand years old.(At least that's the pretty standard estimate, maybe it's changed)I'm pretty sure for the most part we are the only existence. At least I feel like a good chunk believe that. God made us, when he destroys the earth and takes us to heaven that's the end.



So basically 100 trillion time 94 billion, plus a couple million, and a bunch more until 7 thousand years ago, god was just kicking it in the middle of nowhere. Nothing going on, just kind of chillig in nothing, esisting, being the god of nothing. The original gangsta, so elite he was member number 1, trillions of year before you even thought about existing.




So basically he just shilled there, jerked off a bunch, and chilled there. Then after 1 million trillion gazillion x infinity years, he decided"Oh hai, I'm bored, im going to create some planets and some people. I'm going to make a bunch of stuff that people can see in space that goes on forever but I'm not going to put anything there. Earth will be the special place and the only place for people.

I'm going to cast aside some of the coolest most brilliant people, who I could def carry up a convo with into hell. Then I'm going to take even the most ignorant racist people who mumbled a few words when they were 5 into heaven with me. I'm going to kick it with these people for all eternity.

"hey, congrats, you were the dumbest person to ever live, here's a gold mansion and a gold plated creed album, enjoy"


I feel like he could create some slightly more intelligent people if he's gotta hang out with them forever(sandlot forever forever)


Also, many of these people have run around fighting pointless wars in his name when he probably was digging on peace and not being retarded. But I guess they get some effort points and a backstage pass to the gold kingdom.



By the time people get to heaven, gold won't even be that in anymore. Does he have plans to revamp the place? Get hgtv to stop by and do a special or something. You'd think knowing everything he'd have found something better, some sort of secret mineral like that shit from avatar.

Also it was def a flawed game plan to put together a giant book that most christians haven't read all the way through but left out a small, easy to grasp guide to living not like an ignorant douche bag. Yeah theres the 10 commandments but without murdering or raping people you can still be a tool. You might not be coveting, lusting, or stealing but you're still retarded for hanging onto the fact that obama is a muslim as your best argument. Also on that note completely ignoring any of the harm the reps have done since he/she is a believer too. I mean Charles manson liked the color blue. That happens to be my favorite color but I'm not throwing my support behind him because of a little similarity.


Then there's music. Music has existed for a long long time to kick ass. Music should rock your fucking soul. Music should fucking move you. Music shouldn't consist of 4 chords and endless ambiguous fragments stung together. Where people literally listen to anything as long as it has the common god message in it because then it's obviously good. I tried it a few times while drinking and jamming with a friend. It's so easy to write that stuff. Reminds me of the south park.

How many brothers fell victim to the streets?

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remember this face, save me a place in thug mansion

this. Even though it would be pretty cool to be reborn again.

the devil is bad right? so why would he punish bad people? the way i see it, hell is one hell of a party.

i am better than most everyone...don't like that? deal with it.

I know that was aimed at me, no worries. I am not ignorant. I did not specify a religion, I simply said that a religion which contains those types of preachings is...for lack of a better word, crap.

no christian religion says that anywhere.
acceptance in heaven is based on a genuine belief in God and trusting that he's your savior. the reason he died on the cross was to take the "punishment" for all of the adultery, smoking, drinking, gambling, violence and impure thoughts God knows you're going to have. he realizes that we're all human/impure and are going to make mistakes.

This

We are ONE of the 1,740,330 different species that have evolved to thrive on this planet - with it's climates, resources, strengths, weaknesses and opportunities.

Yes - all of those species could have originated from a few simple single cell organisms... how you ask? Simple - time....  mind bending, fucking shit yo pants head exploding, uncomprehendable by the human mind, amounts of time....

Heaven? Is a creation of man's - er, creative and philosophical thinking.  A way of answering questions that cannot be answered by science or by a physically testable hypothesis.

The afterlife, is simply a result of man's desire to expect/want that there is more then this - more to the earth then just a rock in the emptyness of space.  Why? Why does there need to be more? Your circa 70-80-90 years not enough? Well - that's all your getting......  maybe in a few million years time we will have evolved to live longer and longer...

You kill a spider in your house - it ceases to exist.  You die, you cease to exist. Sad, but true fact of life - and that's how we all got here today....  life/death cycles... survival of the fittest etc etc...

That and the opposable thumb... that was a winning mutation for us... we fucking lucked out there...   otherwise we'd be just like Cow's or something.

I love these threads!

Oh - and to avoid a flaming, that's just my educated opinion/conclusion. ^^

hit the nail on the head

PARTY IN HELL!

The universe post with the size of the earth against known stars in our galaxy? and the look at our little planet vid...

worth a guess....   I guess...

I hope you don't honestly think that those who believe in God have just been informed.

And lol at noah tracking down animals from every continent that have to live in specific conditions and getting them to all hang out with each other on a boat for 40 days.

haha. But you do know that stories from the bible are metaphors, right?

I sure as hell don't think most christians see them that way.

Most go with an all or nothing approach.


I think that jesus was probably a really cool dude, way a ehad of his time. Unfortunately people started worshiping him and it spawned into another shit storm religion. That's what i like to think anyway. But who knows.

lol at people who think that's how Christianity works.

Just to get this strait, i do believe in God

lol at your post.


I know how the majority of christianity works. I'm not an atheist and I really don't give a shit about christmas. What kid doesn't like getting gifts for any reason though.

lol that you don't realize most churches take the bible quite literally.

lol the bible basically tells you to give up the party lifestyle so if that's your goal yes you're missing out. If you are still partying then you sort of suck at the bible following jesus.

you lost all credibility here. lololol

straight

throughout your post you never once stopped spewing your "lols" to explain how you feel about religion.

you just implied:

it would honestly take too long, i wouldn't know where to start.

I never implied "that it's less ignorant to follow the traditions of a religion with no basis behind them than it is to follow them with the right intentions."

I also never implied that "that I'm happier than most Christians because you seemingly have no restrictions on living my life like a fool".

I said"lol the bible basically tells you to give up the party lifestyle so if that's your goal yes you're missing out. If you are still partying then you sort of suck at the bible following jesus."

You were saying that the bible doesn't tell you to give up partying or stuff like that. I was just saying that it pretty much does and if you're into that then you aren't really following the teachings.


". i dont care if you've read articles, or books, or anything about Christianity. it's not about the rules, it's not about the principals, it's about a one on one relationship with God. nothing else matters. and that's something only someone with an open mind and heart about the subject can comprehend."

I've read the entire bible. Probably read a good chunk of it multiple times. I live my life a 1/4 mile at a time, nothing else matters. Seriously it kind of does matter how you live your life. You're still going to go to heaven even if you're a douche but you're supposed to try to set a godly example.
"let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." Mathew 5:16


". and that's something only someone with an open mind and heart about the subject can comprehend.."

Actually have an open mind about the subject. If I had a closed mind I still would have believed the same things. I looked for answers and questioned all my beliefs and ended up moving farther away from religion. Also I'm agnostic so I'm always open to challenging my beliefs and finding out I was wrong.