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K2 obsethed or Line Mr.Pollard's

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*jwill*
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I am looking for a powder/touring ski to use in Japan and NZ over the next few seasons, I currently live in australia but will be spend our summer (northern hemisphere winter)  in Japan working and skiing. I dont really expect to use these skis much here in Aussie. I am 20yo, 110lb (lightweight i know) and about 5'6". advanced/agressive skiier.

I am open to any other skis you might think is suitable.

help will be much appriciated.

Sep 15 2011 12:17AM
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jibjunkie
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obsethed is ok. i tested it along with jj's and the armadas were far superior. the obsethed are rather soft and floppy but if you get it in the deep you can ski over anything and rip on it. ive had great experience with line though
Sep 15 2011 1:25AM
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waugi
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i'm also an advanced/agressive skier. i bought a pair of obsetheds last winter and mounted them with marker's tour f10. since the winter in europe wasn't very good i only got to try them once in 16" of pow. i found them super playful butters, slashes, skiing switch were no problem they also performed well in tight trees fairly quick edge to edge (for a ski with a 117 waist). the rest of the season's snow was horrible sunbaked, windblown, chopped up. the skis handled these conditions great they plowed through everything no problem. the only flopping i experienced was on ice, the obseted is fairly stiff ski (don't let the handflexing fool you) i also did a couple of tours, but i wouldn't recommend them for very long tours, since they are pretty heavy (in comparison to touring skis), but dragging the skis all the way is well worth it. can't say anything about the opus unfortunately. hope my review helped
Sep 15 2011 5:15AM
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waugi
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shit! sorry there are no paragraphs
Sep 15 2011 5:16AM
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Pipe_Munky
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Go with the Obsethed's with the pre-cut skins!
Sep 15 2011 9:10AM
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mountainviper
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Opus over the obsethed all day....Seth doesn't even ride those....the four you should be lookin at are the opus, armada jj, atomic bent chetlers, or if you can get it the on3p caylor.....I have the opus and it's ten shades of badass on everything....I've never ridden the jj but I hear it's real badass in pow but not so hot everywhere else.....I've ridden last years chetlers and that's a real good ski....it's much like the opus but geared for a different style as it's construction has different attributes....as an example the chetlers feel like you can get a little more technical in the air whereas the opus is better at bigger, floatier airs....at least that's how they felt to me....as far as the caylor I've never ridden it either but the company is full of good peeps and they're top notch quality construction....probably be tough for you to get those at a decent price but who knows.....try callin on3p....I'm sure they could work somethin out with ya and would be psyched to have their company represented in NZ or Japan......if that's not your thing though I'd def say opus....best ski I've ever been on....good luck though and have fun in Japan if ya haven't skied there before....it's waaaay sick....I was out there for a month during the Nagano Olympics and was blown away by the backcountry snow there....soooo sick.
Sep 15 2011 9:16AM
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Pipe_Munky
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so? tanner hall doesn't wear the Dalbello Il Moro T. doesn't mean it's a bad boot.

this kid's 110lbs. it's not like he needs the hard charging skis that seth uses anyways.

Sep 15 2011 9:54AM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
Alright dude.....you gonna honestly say that the obsethed is better than the opus?
Sep 15 2011 10:16AM
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Pipe_Munky
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for what this guy is looking for, yes i am
Sep 15 2011 10:32AM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
Have you ridden both?.....I'm all for the different strokes for different folks but that's not even a fair comparison....somethin tells me you haven't been on the opus....cause there's no way you would say that. I've ridden the obsethed....it serves the purpose just fine but so do umpteen other skis too....the obsethed is in no way as light, poppy, and maneuverable as the opus....in no way
Sep 15 2011 10:42AM
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Skroob
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I would agree with this but I would also say that skiing in Japan I would probably want something even fatter say a Hellbent or and ARG. But that would also only be if you had a ski for when it sucked as well.

Sep 15 2011 10:44AM
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mountainviper
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Hence why I say the opus....see I've only had a chance to ski it in super crappy conditions and it far exceeded my expectations.....the ski is made with pow in mind right? So it's pow ability should be a given....it's easy to make a ski that excels in pow....what's amazing about the opus is how well it also skis everywhere else....it kills it on crud, on groomers, in the trees....pretty sure that's what alot if people are missin about that ski...it can do anything and do it well.....sure I've run obsetheds down groomers....hellbents too.....both are doable in that respect but I wouldn't ride either as an "everyday" ski....the opus however I will....it's whatever really....the less people who buy it, the less people will fully enjoy next season is all....my only worry is that if it doesn't sell well, the industry may think it's not a good concept and we will be stuck with alot more skis that are great in pow but suck gettin back to the lift.
Sep 15 2011 11:17AM
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A_Thomas
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what are you talking about?
Sep 15 2011 12:02PM
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mountainviper
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Seth doesn't ride the obsetheds....said so himself.
Sep 15 2011 12:24PM
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A_Thomas
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did he say that at a premiere or something?  he was probably saying that the skis he rides are sometimes r&d prototypes for the next evolution of his pro model skis.  Other than that, he skis the same ObSethed that you see in stores.
Sep 15 2011 1:03PM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
No he doesn't.
Sep 15 2011 4:06PM
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A_Thomas
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can you support your claim?
Sep 15 2011 4:08PM
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.nasty
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get the opus. k2 pow skis are very low par and too floppy for how heavy they are
Sep 15 2011 4:21PM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
I could but I'm too lazy right now....try usin the search bar....you'll find it....
Sep 15 2011 4:26PM
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A_Thomas
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hmm ok i searched briefly but gave up.  anyways, all i can tell you is that when he's not testing new skis, seth skis the obsethed that is sold in stores.  period.

Regardless, to the OP- the obsethed is a super fun ski and the one i use as my "everyday" ski when not skiing park.  if there is a ton of fresh i'll ski hellbent, but on those other  pow/ in-between days, the seth charges.  holds edge well, floats, and the all terrain rocker tail is like a landing platform and won't banana peel out like other soft rockered tails.  basically it is very similar to the float of the hellbent in the nose with all the stability of a cambered ski (yet still a bit of the ability to scrub/wash turns or stay nimble in trees) in the tail.  I skied the opus once, and i thought it was a fun ski, but it seemed better for variable snow than the super deep.  its low-pro tip seemed like it wouldnt float as nicely in the super deep.  yeah, pollard skis pow with it and 180s into pow, but he could probably 180 into pow on a pair of doors.  in the end, you'll enjoy either ski, but i think the obsethed would be better for japan's deepness mixed with australia's variability.   
Sep 15 2011 4:52PM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
And there ya go....different strokes for different folks.....I thought both the hellbents and the obsetheds felt generic....just like every other ski out there....but the opus is magical....yet I've seen some k2 reps who swear by the obsetheds.....Eh it's whatever.....I don't really give a crap anymore......it's gettin boring to argue over which fan boy can drop the most posts....so go buy the obsetheds.....that's one less person ridin what I'm ridin......I'm over it.
Sep 15 2011 5:11PM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
From now on whenever anyone asks if the opus is any good I'll jus tell em it sucks and go buy obsetheds or hellbents like every other person on the mountain ok?
Sep 15 2011 5:13PM
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SlurrP
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+1 for the Mr. Pollard's Opus...but only if these are our only two choices...

have you thought about any smaller companies? specifically Liberty or Moment?

Double Helix is big, stable, and hella poppy. gotta love the bamboo core

Bibby Pro is one of the most solid skis I've ever been on. It's really strong and nimble, yet is able to jib around all day long.

just an idea. you're probably less likely to find a demo of these as much as either of the other two. but they both rip hard and i they both have much better warranties than k2 or the k2s...i mean lines
Sep 15 2011 7:13PM
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bertrenolds
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Like I always say, k2's ski like floppy donkey dicks! If the snow isint a foot or more deep don't bother with them and even then they still suck when stuff starts to get choppy or you hit a groomer. If you want a ski that is made in china by someone who has probably never seen snow that is 13 years old because child labor in china isin't an issue then yea, stick with k2/line/any other company that k2 owns. If you wan't a ski that won't contain lead and won't fall apart the second day you ride them look else where like rossignol or armada or even a smaller company that hand makes skis.

Sep 15 2011 8:39PM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
God I hate that line got hooked up with k2 and makes their skis in china too....I love my opus....but I think I'm checking out a brand like on3p on my next purchase....unless of course they are making their skis in china by then like every other commie American company these days.
Sep 15 2011 9:10PM
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Caleb.E
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not to get off the skis ur looking into but i would suggest looking at the armada jjs.... as u are light wieght obsesed might bet o heavy since there a bigger ski.and the jjs are pretty light super versatile

Sep 15 2011 10:42PM
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mountainviper
Posts: 1931 - Karma: -3
He said 13 yr olds....you grow ip
Sep 15 2011 10:59PM
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armada802
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I have skied both and think neither of them are the best choice. The JJ is the most versatile out of all the skis your looking at. I skied in Vermont last year (aka ice, tight trees, and a lot of park features) and the jjs murdered it, thats why i am selling my obsetheds. I am currently skiing snowbird and brighton and the jjs are absolute money, the only time i swicth skis is for all out park laps and that 'fluffa duff" as t-hall says when i bring out my other weapons
Sep 16 2011 4:26AM
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*jwill*
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well i think i have ruled out the obsethed, but now considering th jj's. soooo many options.

thanks every1 for ur help.

Sep 16 2011 5:21AM
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tinkytwinky
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is no one taking this  guys weight into a account? if you're 110, go with a lighter more flexible powder ski, last years ep pro could be better for you or this years caylor light. Opus will still be flexy as will the obsethed but i think there are better options for you.
Sep 16 2011 6:50PM
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bertrenolds
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If he only weighs 110 I imagine he will be growing and getting bigger in the next year so you might as well step it up now. Don't let the weight of a ski determine if you get it or not, let performance determine that. I at first thought my S7's were heavy but I got use to them and now you can get me to ski on anything else so my suggestion would be to try to test some skis or at least go to a store and look at them and compare before you buy. JJ's, S7's, CRJ, I think the links I posted are clickable so check em out.
  • Armada JJ
  • 4FRNT CRJ
  • Rossignol S7
  • Volkl Chopstick
  • Atomic Bent Chetler
  • Moment Night Train
  • Moment Bibby Pro 190cm
    • Sep 16 2011 10:07PM
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    NE.
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    seriously go of the lines. you won't regret it.
    Sep 17 2011 1:58AM
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