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2012 FKS 140 or Griffon 13?

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str6t9
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Pros and Cons? Need a pair for the new season.
Aug 28 2011 11:22AM
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AGOF
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we need basic info, how heavy are you, how aggressive of a skier are you, how tall are you, etc,
Aug 28 2011 11:44AM
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BWalmer
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First, I'm guess you mean Griffon 12 (Griffon's are a 12 DIN binding, unless things have changed this year...)

Griffons will be cheaper, but they're pretty much all plastic and not as durable.

FKS 140s are more durable, and will release better/not pre-release as much.

I'd say the FKS 140s are the better binding, but Griffons are decent, just a bit less durable.
Aug 28 2011 11:52AM
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str6t9
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Im 6'2 180. Aggressive type 3 skier. My din setting is 10.
Aug 28 2011 1:09PM
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BWalmer
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The for sure go for the FKS 140 or if you want Markers than go with the Jester (16 DIN binding, goes down to 6 so you'll be right in the middle). You could also consider the STH 14 driver or 16 as well. But for sure, stay away from the griffon at your size/DIN setting, you're awfully close to maxing out the springs on a 12 DIN binding.
Aug 28 2011 1:36PM
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str6t9
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I thought that might be over kill. I currently have the STH 14 and looking for a change.
Aug 28 2011 1:45PM
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BWalmer
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You want something where you'll be more in the middle of the DIN setting instead of being at the high end. So a 14, 15, or 16 DIN is really what you're looking for. The reason is, being to close to the extreme high or extreme low end of the DIN binding isn't good for the springs (the low end will end up backing out cause there's not enough tension, too close to the high end weakens the springs which will lead to pre-releases and other issues). If you really don't like the STHs then go with either the FKS 140 (or 155 if you can find them in the BST...more metal, better binding all around) or the Marker Jester. Both can go down low enough to prevent back-outs (FKS goes down to 5, Jester down to 6) and still have some above 10 so you don't max out.
Aug 28 2011 1:54PM
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tomPietrowski
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I agree with what flashkick says. A Din 14-16 will be the best for you. If you get chance definatly try out the jesters before buying. I had the jesters before I got my current STH 16, and when I first got the jesters I loved them, but once I tried the STH 16 I would not use jesters again. Having the adjustable toe piece on the STH makes for such a good boot hold. I always now get annoyed by the slightest movement I get in the toe from the jester. But overall both binding hold well and you will not go wrong with either. FKS are good but the lack of spare parts make them a no for me.
Aug 28 2011 2:08PM
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Gibbon
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they truly changed it to 13 this year, and they have a slightly different  toe piece...
Aug 28 2011 2:52PM
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BWalmer
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huh...interesting, not exactly sure what the point of that was unless they decided to have more spacing in between the squire and the griffon. I still think 13 is too low for him.
Aug 28 2011 2:57PM
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mountainviper
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I dunno....if he's runnin a 10 din the 13 should be fine.....my local shop said they've only had one griffon failure since they started carrying them....and that was an admitted "extensive rail abuse" failure.....honestly though if he can afford it I'd say jester/pro and run a din of 11-12....at his weight being aggressive I'd be runnin at least an 11 din
Aug 28 2011 3:05PM
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DUKES
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marker added the griffon 13 and the jester pro which goes up to 18
Aug 28 2011 3:18PM
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str6t9
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Blew out my knee two seasons ago, so I dropped my din down. Seems to be working out. I
Aug 28 2011 3:26PM
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Jaggy_Snake
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DIN of 4-13

I've got Griffons (earlier models) on my Blends and Chronic Cryptonites, never had a problem with them.

I'm making a switch to FKS 140s for when I get my Filthy Richs only for a change and I like the look of the black against the top sheet.
Aug 28 2011 3:41PM
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dutchy_k
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any of you have the chance to compare the griffon or FKS? trying to get an idea of whether the wider mounting platform of the griffons will have any impact on my S7's...
Nov 26 2011 5:45PM
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