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Review: 2011-2012 MOMENT PB&J, 188cm

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ClydeFrog
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The PB&J is a serious contender in the battle for the one-ski-quiver crown.

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-re...nt-pbj-188cm-2

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Aug 25 2011 1:51AM
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Crocodile
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Love it
Aug 25 2011 2:09AM
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Kangbang
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Those graphics are fucking insane! Love em! I saw Josh Bibby's dad on those at Silverstar during Jib Academy.
Aug 25 2011 2:42AM
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-AP-
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I demoed them and wasn't that impressed. They felt like a heavy, burly pow ski but they didn't float that great and they weren't playful at all. I demoed the new moment vices though and loved them. Some how they floated better than the pb&j in like 10 inches fresh. Even off some decent drops and stuff. I guess its just a matter of personal preference though...
Aug 25 2011 3:26AM
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Stose
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Yeah it really is because no matter what it is, if moment made it Kangbang will give it a 10/10 and say its the best. But i live in reno where moments are made so i have rode a lot of them and really dont like the quality of them
Aug 25 2011 10:48AM
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Ghini
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What didnt you like about the quality of Moment ski's? Or do you mean you didnt like the characteristics like flex, shape etc etc? Because all Moment ski's i've seen have one of the highest qualities of the industry..
Aug 25 2011 11:00AM
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.nasty
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if only a one ski quiver ski were actually usefull....
Aug 25 2011 11:02AM
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Stose
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Highest quality of the industry? Well i dont like the quality in terms of quality. They aren't very durable skis. I've had many break or have the edge blow out, and I've seen a lot of friends do it too. I have cracked my skis and delaminated another pair and a friend landed back seat and snapped the tail of his. On top of that it's kind of a known fact that moment had problems with their top sheets coming off and they only improved it this year.
Aug 25 2011 11:18AM
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PedroPedro
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ummmmm?????

I'd say they're pretty damn useful if you can't afford 4, or even two pair of skis. no?
Aug 25 2011 12:07PM
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Stose
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no.
Aug 25 2011 12:11PM
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.nasty
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should've added "to me" on the end of that statement.
Aug 25 2011 12:20PM
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phishfood
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just ordered a pair of 188s off backcountry (by farrr the most i've ever paid for a ski but hey im supporting america i guess). gonna be my chopped pow/slushy park ski...can't wait.
Aug 25 2011 12:35PM
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steve0
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Any more info? I'm seriously considering them, but I'm looking for something lighter and playful but still around 100mm waist, any skis you can compare them to?
Sep 15 2011 5:13PM
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-AP-
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Part of the reason I didn't like them was the size, I demoed a pair in the 180s and I think they were too big. I didn't think they had much float, especially considering how big and heavy they are.
Sep 15 2011 5:33PM
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ClydeFrog
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The PB&J, I think, is a little unusual in its dimensions (100mm underfoot) for an all-mountain twin. In that respect, is more biased towards charging and chop/pow skiing than toward park. Every "one-ski-quiver" is going to be slightly more proficient in one are than the other, you just have to decide how you want that 60 - 40% balance to be allocated. It is physically impossible to make a ski just as proficient sliding a rail as it is floating through soft snow.

Having said that, if you're looking for something a little lighter, but that can still do a little charging.....please take a look at eh ON3P Jeronimo. I have a review up on last season's, and think teh 2011/2012 model is going to be really good. At 96 underfoot, it's damn close in dimensions....

My review of the 2010/11 Jeronimo:

Check out this thread for some more discussion about its pow performance:

An here's a link to the 11/12 J-Mo on ON3P's site:

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Sep 15 2011 7:27PM
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ClydeFrog
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I have to be honest here...

If you found the 180s too big, it's not terribly surprising that you also thought they felt heavy. MOMENT also offers this ski in a 162 and 172, which will be lighter and MAY (don't quote me on that) have slightly different layups for the shorter lengths.

As it would be helpful for my reviewing purposes, and others looking at this ski, mind giving your height and weight?


Sep 15 2011 7:31PM
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steve0
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Yeah -AP- What's your height and weight?

I'm 5'11 180 skiing 182 Alpha 2's and 185 JJ's and I'm looking at the 182's, so I would be really suprised if I found these skis too heavy? On TGR they are listed at 4.9 lbs a ski...

Sep 16 2011 10:35AM
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-AP-
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5'8" 165. That was probably it and the fact that I would rather just have a powder ski and a park ski. Also I only used them a couple runs so I could have needed to get used to them too. I'm used to 173 park skis and 179 one lifes with a way different shape
Sep 22 2011 3:57AM
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J.M
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this is 99.999999999999% my next pair of skis!
Sep 22 2011 9:41PM
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steve0
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I'm still not convinced... I'm looking at last year's kung fujas too. thoughts?
Sep 23 2011 9:25AM
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J.M
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did anyone demo these/own a pair?

Sep 24 2011 1:44AM
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