Can someone explain grab tabs to me?

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Skiers thumb?...40% to 100%?....OMG I better stop skiing immediately!...I don't wants no skier thumbs!....lmao....dude I've been doin grabs for over ten years and have yet to injure my thumb....sounds to me like somebodys company didn't come up with this idea first and they aren't happy it's getting attention....awww....let's have a pity party.

Aug 21 2011 10:08AM

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skiers thumb isnt caused by grabbing.

its when you fall on your hand nad the pole grip stays in your palm and injures your thumb

Aug 21 2011 11:21AM

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Ahhhhh....haven't done that either

Aug 21 2011 5:48PM

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If they're talking about what I think they are, then it hurts. A lot.

Aug 21 2011 6:41PM

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Yeah I dunno....maybe it's from doing judo as a kid so I know how to fall or just dumb luck but I've injured myself far worse hiking to ski (ACL) then I ever have actually skiing....now watch I jus jinxed myself for this coming season....dammit I'm gonna get the skier thumb!

Aug 21 2011 8:44PM

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The grab tab is a piece of plastic that costs line a $1 to put on their poles, which will help them convince you that you need to go out an buy their overpriced poles in order to freeski effectively. Any questions?

Aug 21 2011 8:48PM

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that's being generous

Aug 21 2011 8:58PM

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Overpriced poles?!?!.....have you ever priced a comparable Scott pole?....lines pretty damn competitively priced there for what your gettin homie....maybe your buyin some shit poles?

Aug 21 2011 9:58PM

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grab tabs are a huge scam. When was the last time you dropped your pole getting a grab? or thought, "i really need to let go of the pole completely to get a good grab"? never. they are a massive scam, and they look stupid.

Aug 21 2011 10:11PM

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Have you ever priced a pair of garage sale poles? You can get them for a little less then a $1 a pair.

All poles break, I have not found a pair that did not. I personally find paying $40 for a pair of aluminum tubes with rubber on the ends, a bit much.

Aug 21 2011 11:30PM

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A scam?...really?....it's progress the sport....which btw if not for line you would all still be oldschoolers or snowboarders...don't forget that....is the toe on the spk a scam so salomon can sell boots?....no that's one of the most innovative boot design elements we've seen in years....shame all boot companies can't use it....but anyway...at least line is trying to keep it fresh and innovative....so slow your roll and don't be so quick to call bs on somethin new.

Aug 21 2011 11:30PM

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Dude your argument makes no sense at all....so your saying if you had a choice between a normal pole and one with a new innovation at the same price, you would take the one without the innovation?....and even if it is a goofy piece of rubber....they gotta keep it fresh so people continue to buy their product...so they can make money...cause they're a business...and businesses aren't doing it to give shit away....no matter how much they love the sport, sport.

Aug 21 2011 11:38PM

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help protect skiers thumb?

Aug 21 2011 11:39PM

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I smell ignorance.

The rubber toe does nothing. I don't have it on my boots, and I have never gotten toe bang.

Also here is my theory on how the 'grab tab' came into being. Mr. Line Employee walked into a ski shop that carried swix poles. He picked up a swix pole and noticed that annoying piece of rubber on the end, and though, holy shit, if we were to put our own annoing piece of of shit on the end of our poles, we could totally sucker more idiots on ns into thinking we were doing something progressive and cool with our poles, and they would buy our poles.

Aug 21 2011 11:42PM

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Wait. You think that tab is new to the ski pole world? Hahahahaha. My dad has a pair of Swix poles that are at least five or six years old and have that tab on top. It's used so you can flick your pole out to plant and that piece helps rebound the pole back. This is far from innovative.

Aug 21 2011 11:52PM

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yes, it is.

everything that is added to any equipment is to assist sales. I especially hate the rubber toe -- it does not fix, but simply masks a problem.

Aug 21 2011 11:55PM

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That would mean every bike would be a fixie, more people would die in car accidents every year because of lack of seat belts, yin would have no yang, earth would have no moon, sigfried would have no roy, peanutbutter wold have no jam, the world would be chaos.

Aug 22 2011 12:02AM

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because everybody wants a fixie and nobody wants seatbelts.

Aug 22 2011 12:05AM

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fixies make no sense, they're completely impractical. And I'll stick with my seatbelts as well nebula.

Aug 22 2011 12:07AM

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They are totally trollin and probably work for friggin joystix or some shit....and no dur it's been done before you friggin rocket scientists...jay said that at SIA....go buy your $1 garage sale poles douchebag.

Aug 22 2011 12:10AM

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i don't even understand what you are saying....

every single thing that someone thinks up to add into skis or other equipment as "new technology", whether or not it is a good idea, is a ploy to get more people to buy the product. I don't know what the seatbelt and fixie statement is about, but not everyone wants a fixie or a car without seatbelts, so that would drastically reduce sales.

Aug 22 2011 12:10AM

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haha fuck, I re-read what I wrote and it made no sense. I think that I meant to say that those things were useful, not invented to increase sales, and not gimmicky whatsoever. But while I was writing, I forgot what you said.

I'm tired, disregard what I said haha.

Aug 22 2011 12:15AM

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for once i fully endorse everything said in this post

Aug 22 2011 12:26AM

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Ok so the message you are all throwing out is that everything is jus fine the way it is?....no need for new innovation?....cool we can all buy $1 garage poles forever....and twin tips were a dumb idea along with wider than 60 underfoot...wonderful....I'm so thankful for the intelligent folks here....if not for them we would probably push the sport but noooo.....we can get it all at garage sales now....yay......and dude ya smell ignorance because of my comment about the spk toe?.....I hate spks FYI....sure they look good but the fit was never right...but....I never got toe bang in those things.....got it on pretty much every other boot I've owned....including other salomons.....but no that must just be ignorance because I haven't posted here 25,000 times....geez what do I know....it's not like I own a ski company or anything....lmao.....ok....the great ones have spoken.....so to all the other companies out there....halt your r&d dept....fire everyone....no need for innovation.....these folks like garage sales....that's your new target market folks......thanks again guys we woulda jus kept Kickin out new and fresh things....we had no idea you liked stale and boring....whew....that makes the ski business much easier now.

Aug 22 2011 9:26AM

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Dude, you are trolling.

I think the message is: Just because it is a 'new' idea, does not mean it is a good one.

Aug 22 2011 10:59AM

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wat "..."

Aug 22 2011 11:06AM

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hahahaha, i'll go ahead and say it, you're one dumb cunt !

so because line produces overpriced poles with a plastic thingy on top of their grips they're pushing the sport towards a brighter future, and we should all support them in doing so ?

I somewhat understand your rant, but comparing the inovation of grabtabs to the inovation of twintips and fat skis just blows my mind !

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now that's innovation dude!

imho line skipoles have a very sick design but that's about it, you're mainly paying for the brand name and the fancy colors/grips.... i have no problem with that, but you should understand that you're not supporting the progression of our sport by doing so, you're just supporting the corporations that make tons of profit on such things...

So in the end, wether you're buying 1$ skipoles in a thrift store/garage sale, or buy 79$ line poles, you're gonna be supporting the sport just as much...

Afterall, they're just "pointy sticks with grips" (-E.Pollard, one of the names behind the grabtabs)

+ just learn how to hold your poles, i've never once dropped a pole during a grab.....

Aug 22 2011 11:11AM

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Pretty sure that you missed my point entirely.....I don't see in any way how you could possibly interpret any of my posts in this thread as trolling.....it's all good though....message received....line is no longer cool cause they're attempting to make money doing what they love...Roger that....forget that whole profits drive innovation stuff right....every company should jus give away their product for peanuts right?.....unbelievable

Aug 22 2011 11:21AM

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You are a fucking retard. Line makes two of the best skis coming out next this fall, the influence 115 (prophet 115) and the Opus. I just don't buy into everything.

Aug 22 2011 11:31AM

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Ok so then what on earth was your point?.....they put a piece on top of the pole....even if it's for no other reason than to encourage someone to buy a new set of poles they may not need....what is so wrong about that?....forget the fact that it actually serves or attempts to serve a purpose....the op asked a valid question and you came in with a bunch of nonsense.....I attempted to explain the reasoning behind it.....so how does this make me retarded?

Aug 22 2011 11:51AM

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I'm pretty sure you missed the point of this entire thread...

unless of course this whole thing was a pitiful attempt at sarcasm on your side....

anyways, it's all good though !

+ just how much of the profits of line do you think that were spent on the innovative R&D of the grabtabs ?

and even if it's a considerable amount of money, shouldn't they have spent it on researching something more useful that's actually in need of some revolutionizing ?

imho the grabtabs are just a fancy marketing stunt to increase their profits and they have nothing whatsoever to do with revolutionizing/pushing the sport....

Aug 22 2011 11:53AM

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it's exactly the other way around, you moron ...

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you:

Skiers thumb?...40% to 100%?....OMG I better stop skiing immediately!...I don't wants no skier thumbs!....lmao....dude I've been doin grabs for over ten years and have yet to injure my thumb....sounds to me like somebodys company didn't come up with this idea first and they aren't happy it's getting attention....awww....let's have a pity party.

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Yeah I dunno....maybe it's from doing judo as a kid so I know how to fall or just dumb luck but I've injured myself far worse hiking to ski (ACL) then I ever have actually skiing....now watch I jus jinxed myself for this coming season....dammit I'm gonna get the skier thumb!

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Overpriced poles?!?!.....have you ever priced a comparable Scott pole?....lines pretty damn competitively priced there for what your gettin homie....maybe your buyin some shit poles?

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A scam?...really?....it's progress the sport....which btw if not for line you would all still be oldschoolers or snowboarders...don't forget that....is the toe on the spk a scam so salomon can sell boots?....no that's one of the most innovative boot design elements we've seen in years....shame all boot companies can't use it....but anyway...at least line is trying to keep it fresh and innovative....so slow your roll and don't be so quick to call bs on somethin new.

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Dude your argument makes no sense at all....so your saying if you had a choice between a normal pole and one with a new innovation at the same price, you would take the one without the innovation?....and even if it is a goofy piece of rubber....they gotta keep it fresh so people continue to buy their product...so they can make money...cause they're a business...and businesses aren't doing it to give shit away....no matter how much they love the sport, sport.

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Ok so the message you are all throwing out is that everything is jus fine the way it is?....no need for new innovation?....cool we can all buy $1 garage poles forever....and twin tips were a dumb idea along with wider than 60 underfoot...wonderful....I'm so thankful for the intelligent folks here....if not for them we would probably push the sport but noooo.....we can get it all at garage sales now....yay......and dude ya smell ignorance because of my comment about the spk toe?.....I hate spks FYI....sure they look good but the fit was never right...but....I never got toe bang in those things.....got it on pretty much every other boot I've owned....including other salomons.....but no that must just be ignorance because I haven't posted here 25,000 times....geez what do I know....it's not like I own a ski company or anything....lmao.....ok....the great ones have spoken.....so to all the other companies out there....halt your r&d dept....fire everyone....no need for innovation.....these folks like garage sales....that's your new target market folks......thanks again guys we woulda jus kept Kickin out new and fresh things....we had no idea you liked stale and boring....whew....that makes the ski business much easier now.

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