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How can you say that you're a purist and you have such a good grasp on hip-hop, and how people limit themselves to only a certain branch or don't put enough time into following the trail of dope artists, but then go say that if someone listens to Seattle Area hip-hop they aren't good enough for you? That's being hypocritical. You then say that listening to people like Gangstarr, etc. is the beginners guide, while most people hear their first bits of hip-hop from the radio, which is people like Lil Wayne. Also, you say you are a purist and you follow the NYC scene from the early-mid 90's, but Gucci is from Atlanta and had hist first album in 2005, while Wayne is from Louisiana and got popular in 1999 with Guerrilla Warfare...
Your a pretentious piece of shit, just because i think Wayne is wack as fuck doesn't mean that i don't know shit about hip-hop and "limit myself" in the genre. It means that i think Wayne is wack as fuck. The problem with you is that you think your better than everybody else cause you sit on the computer and research all day so you can try to tell people that they think they are "underground" when in fact your just a big huge douchebag. Next time you try to make a valid point, maybe you should try not to be so hypocritical. "the problem with most of you guys is that you severely limit yourself in regards to discovering really dope hip-hop" then you going on to say "but if you tell me you like rhymesayers, def jux, blue scholars, seattle area hip-hop, that just ain't gonna cut it for me." hahahah The funny thing is you probably don't know shit about rap.
But yeah this thread is dumb. Human beings have opinions and I guess your opinion is that Wayne sucks, which is reasonable, but not everybody thinks the same.
i guess i will just go listen to some jedi mind tricks and biggie then! please dude! no shit i have done my research, that's why i make the claim that i know what's up. i don't know why you would hate on me for being absolutely obsessed with hip-hop for the last 8 years and learning my shit. i don't think that many people take the time to do that anymore. and of course you can think wayne is wack. the reason i mentioned those artists is b/c that's typically the type of people who whine the most about wayne. and once again, the fact that seattle area hip-hop, etc isn't for me is b/c i gave it a try and just didn't like it as much as that classic nyc feel. but that's just me. still i'm always ready to argue that the early-mid 90s in new york was the prime time for the genre, b/c i don't think anything has yet to even come close to that quality.
I agree with you on the Seattle area hip-hop, people always try and get respect by dropping those names but I tried to listen to some of it and I just can't get into it, it just doesn't sound like what I expect out of hip-hop
that's the way i feel as well. we seem to have similar music interests. i am not saying that that stuff is bad; it's just not for me i guess. i like the gritty ny sound. anything produced by pete rock, buckwild, showbiz, premier, vinyl reanimators, diamond d. most of that production is just straight to the point with a serious jazz influence. you also tend to get darker and moodier production from the east coast producers (esp. during the mid-late 90s), which i think is sick.
Rap is so disrespected in the music industry- not rap industry- its not even funny. Anybody talented at music brushes him off and forgets about the shit released today. The reason because hes popular is obviouslybecause his image sells, and kids in america are now dumb as fucking nails. Rap sucks, weezy sucks, wiz sucks, and every other new rapper sucks. Flame away, you dont know shit about music.
In, a way, this like saying why people liked biggie at the time. BIG was the most popular rapper of his time. Lil wayne is the most popular rapper in our time. Just shut up kangbang, people have different tastes.
A millionaire, I'm a young money millionaire
Tougher than Nigerian hair
My criteria compared to your career this isn't fair
I'm a venereal disease like a menstrual bleed
Through the pencil and leak on the sheet of the tablet
In my mind 'cause I don't write shit, 'cause I ain't got time
'cause my seconds, minutes, hours go to the all mighty dollar
And the all mighty power of that ch, ch, ch, ch chopper
Sister, brother, son, daughter, father mothafuck a coppa
Got the Maserati dancin' on the bridge pussy poppin'
Tell the coppers hahahaha you can't catch 'em, you can't stop 'em
I go by them goon rules if you can't beat 'em then you pop 'em
You can't man 'em then you mop 'em,
You can't stand 'em then you drop 'em,
You pop 'em 'cause we pop 'em like Orville Redenbacher!!
Motherfucker I'm ill
A million here, a million there
Sicilian bitch with long hair
With coke in the derriere
Like smoking the thinnest air
I open the Lamborghini hopin' them crackers see me
Like look at that bastard weezy
He's a beast, he's a dog, he's a motherfucking problem
OK, you're a goon but what's a goon to a goblin?
Nothing, nothing -- you ain't scarin' nothing
On some faggot bullshit call him Denise Rodman
Call me what you want bitch, call me on my sidekick
Never answer when it's private, damn I hate a shy bitch
Don't you hate a shy bitch?
Yeah I ate a shy bitch
She ain't shy no more, she changed her name to my bitch
hahahaha, yeah, nigga that's my bitch
So when she ask for the money, when you through don't be surprised bitch
It ain't trickin' if you got it
But you like a bitch with no ass, you ain't go shit
Motherfucker I'm ill, not sick
And I'm OK but my watch sick, yeah my drop sick, yeah my glock sick and my knot thick
IM It!
Motherfucker I'm Ill!
Anyone who says he didn't used to kill it can fuck off.
Yezzir
It's me...the rapper eater...feed me feed me feed me! No homo.
One time for me, one time for the DJ
He be Khaled, I be Lil' Weezy
Baby if you ask me if you're nasty
Creative gifted bastard
Spit sporadic
I'm so diplomatic democratic
Touch it, Bring it, Push it systematic
Damn right I kissed my daddy
I think they pissed at how rich my daddy is
And I'm his kid I stunt with my daddy
Call Mrs. Lee, she's with my daddy
So diss me and dont diss my daddy
Cause who was there when no one wasn't? Just my daddy
Who was there when I needed money? Just my daddy
So who'll be there when I see the money? Just my daddy
Who said that I be the one?
Just my daddy!
Hello Hip Hop I'm home,
Its Your Daddy
When I say D's, I don't mean the caddy I mean 'deez nuts'
Akon's and Khaleds, Rick Ross, TIP, Stunna and Fat Joe
And I can't, can't, can't forget Brisco
& Yeah I done squashed the bullshit it's rizo
It's a bakery here just trying to get dough
Shout to my Dreads, my Haitians and Chicos
You're lookin for me hoe?
I'm in the 3-0...Five,
I'm the best rapper alive
Homeboy got a mind, that a map couldnt find
Homeboy got a 9, that a cop couldnt find
I could get to it even if I was blind
Scary movie be screaming when I rhyme
I'ma 'King' you can ask 'Steven' if I'm lying
I'ma Prince too demanding like my mom
Too bold too cold like wet Sa-lam-Me!
Me! It's all about me!
If a girl gotta voice then she talking about me!
He say, she say, I say me!
Will be in the M.I.A. me!
With me! And T! And Big Ronnie!
And the homie Street probably somewhere on the beach
And Tez and E probably somewhere in the jeep
And Marl in the Phantom with Mr. G
And me! Me! It's all about me!
Play with me and it's all out beef
Beef! Yes! Chest! Feet!,
Tag! Bag! Blood! Sheets!
Yikes! Yeeks! Great! Scott!
Storch! Can I borrow your yacht?
Watch me and my click go all out
Like the ball in the stands we balls out
Boy I don't know what y'all 'bout
But I just spit like a dog mouth
Pink ice just looking like a hog mouth
VRRRMMM ...I had to bring the hog out
Light dem trees bring the log out
Everyday Christmas I'm egged nogged out
& Hip Hop Is My New Bought House
My flow just grew legs and walked out
BYE
Alright make a song that is better lyrically than Lil Wayne right now. If a 3 year old can do it than surely a teenager can.
Haters fucking hating. Lil Wayne has some sick stuff and some stuff that gives me a headache. He has some amazing lyrics though and is fun to listen to.
Also Kangbang you are retarded and I hope I never meet you in real life or I might die from the stupidity that radiates from you.
But, if you try to shove it my ear, your going to have a nice surprise in yours.
If you complain to the world about people liking it or complain about people who do, you're an idiot. Just leave them alone, they have enough problems of there own.
I don't like Lil Wayne. Whoopty friggin doo. But that doesn't mean his fan are all idiots. Just most of them...
When I was 16, I dismissed anything even remotely successful or accessible to casual music/hiphop fans. Kids, adolescents, and young adults use their tastes in fashion, music, film, art, etc. to define themselves and to align themselves with like minded individuals—that said, many angsty teens don't want to be aligned with the masses.
Youtube and the internet in general has made it infinitely easier to be a music nerd/snob, so shit for brain kids like kangbang feel the need to align themselves with other likeminded shit for brains.
Lil Wayne is popular because he has fans. That's the easy answer. The complex one is that Lil Wayne has managed to appeal to a number of different types of music fans, from teenyboppers who know lollipop, to mixtape fiends who know every lyric on Dedication 2. Weezy has a huge.....and I mean enormous catalog of music he's recorded over the past 15 years. 15, I said. He's transformed as an artist at east three times by my count, and from 2002-present he has created some of the most exciting and different hiphop music ever recorded. He's also recorded some radio courting, teeny bop autotuned drivel. He's ambitious and wants to make money, nothing wrong with that. It just cracks me up to no end that the overwhelming majority of hip hop fans AND ARTISTS respect the shit out of Wayne as an emcee, but some suburban white kids on a ski forum who jerk off to aesop rock posters think it makes them core to hate on weezy.
This shit is all personal opinion and a matter of taste, but just because you like Tribe, De la, Wu, Heiro, Aesop, Jedi Mind, Immortal Tech, Brother Ali, and on and on and on, doesn't mean you can't like main stream or "gangster" shit. I like all kinds of music, food, movies, books, etc., and all for different reasons and moods.
How did he go hard? Serious question here not trying to instigate anything, I didn't catch any complex rhyme scheme in the song or any real multis; and I am talking strictly rhyming not metaphors or wordplay. I don't see any lyrical complexity in the song.
I don't really know what to say other than I see the exact opposite, and see superb rhyming and lyrical complexity. So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
The way I see it, you actually have to listen to a lots of Weezy and have an open mind in order to have a liking for him. I agree that more songs than not aren't good, but there are definitely some awesome songs of his.
You also need a sense of humour I think. I often just sit back and enjoy his stupidity even if the song isn't to my liking.
i think that is very true when listening to lil' wayne. i have to be in the mood for him, but when i am i always find myself smiling and laughing at how ridiculous some of his stuff is. i used to be incredibly anti-wayne, but he grew on me. i think it's just good to mix it up once in a while. it's pretty boring to listen to the same serious, dense, insightful stuff all of the time. if i'm going for that mood, i usually pick up a book instead. and i think a big reason for my liking nyc 90s hip-hop so much is the fact that i love jazz music, and all of those producers sample so heavily from that genre.
1- He knows how to market the fuck out of his music and image
2- Although his music is about nothing significant or meaningful it is fascinating to listen to how he can twist up the English language and put shit together like he does with out writing anything down
3- His catchy beats and "Gangsta" lyrics are gold for Tasteless shmo's in America who love it, listen to it, and BUY IT.....that simply answers your question.
Here's what I am talking about when I say he twists shit up and makes it come together its interesting to think about.
AND OF COURSE HIS CATCHY NEW HIT SINGLE THAT WHITE BITCH'S FUCKIN LOVE!!!
I just saw him in concert and he was pretty sick. One of the more fun concerts i've been too. Besides the auto tune he's actually sick. But im guessing you only listen to underground ap and wu tang am i right? CHIKA POW
