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London Riots

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Kajex
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Are any of you guys following this ?  It's some pretty intense stuff, seems to be worse than the Vancouver incident.  Hopefully no one else gets killed.
Aug 8 2011 3:56AM
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las.
Posts: 1959 - Karma: 1,455
Rioting is rioting. There were no specifics in what he said.

And join date =/= amount of time ive been here, fyi. You only joined in 05? noob...
Aug 11 2011 1:16AM
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fujarome
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fair enough, but regardless of what he said, i don't think egypt vs england riots are a fair comparison at all. one was to overthrow a tyrannical government, another was to riot for the hell of it.


and you're right, join date doesn't equal how long i've been here. 05 is simply when i joined, not when i first found ns and started browsing regularly. but that's all part of an unnecessary pissing war.
Aug 11 2011 1:20AM
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las.
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I agree, totally different things. I was more calling him out on his absurd generalization.

And you started it buddy.
Aug 11 2011 1:31AM
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SkierX
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Protesting =\= rioting and rioting =\= protesting. Trying to even slightly liken the occurances in England to protesting is about as absurd as possible. But hey, free shit is free shit. Fuck the man, I'mma get me a free tv because businesses are evil!
Aug 11 2011 1:39AM
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Gstrong
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Skrillex dead, lol

Aug 11 2011 3:13AM
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Yossarian
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Making fun of parliament on TV:

Mock The Week
Have I Got News For You
Yes, Minister
and others...

In fact it could be argued that the UK is the creator and best producer of political satire in the world. 

True our government can put the Official Secrets act on specific pieces of information which would be detrimental to national interests if it became public, but our tradition of journalism is such that if it was information that the journalist thought the public deserved to know it would be published.

There are hundreds of methods for you to promote your values. In the modern era there is so much potential to promote your message through instant communication, social networking and video sites like Vimeo or Youtube.

Usually it is the apathy to act that means the youth have no voice not that the system stops you.

And your right there are too many injustices in the world, but blaming the world for how things are never got anyone anywhere.

So get involved in helping your local community in any way you can be it volunteering in an Oxfam shop on the high street, helping that old lady who lives in the flat above you with her shopping or giving a hand to your local businesses by buying from them and not supermarkets. All of these reduce those injustices and by being a good example of a decent human being people will respect you and what you have to say.

Work to make the lives around you better and you'll find that your own improves.

Aug 11 2011 4:39AM
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FLBP
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You do have valid suggestions, and I was wrong in my first point, I still don't trust the media though, probably because of the bullshit we have for news in America, but all you hear about is the senseless looting and YES that is a HUGE problem, but for every 50 of those stories you hear there's 1 about the oppressed black person who gets randomly searched all the time for no reason, they don't put those on the air because people wanna push the bigotry under the rug when they're finished with it and pretend it never happened.
Aug 11 2011 4:49AM
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FLBP
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and i am in no way shape or form condoning the violence, I just don't want people thinking that every single person out in the streets is a mindless looter. the comments about how every one of those fuckers needs to be shot really pissed me off and i felt like i had to say something at least..
Aug 11 2011 4:52AM
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JibbaTheHutt
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i can tell you know that th u.k does not have a "huge censorship problem". what i will agree with is that the youth of GB do not have a strong enough voice when it comes to politics, but at the end of the day the only riot with a cause was that of tottenham, the rest are people who are wanting to take advantage of a situation.
Aug 11 2011 6:29AM
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vauban08
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Heading of a German newspaper:
»The youth in the Middle East arises for human rights - the youth in London arises for a 42-inch plasma TV.«

Nuff said.
Aug 11 2011 8:16AM
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.Annydrew.
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people like you annoy me, why post something like that with 'nuff said'? its a small pocket of people, a couple of thousand, not every youth in london, wow.
Aug 11 2011 8:49AM
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Jpurd
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Their has been a lot of this all over the world it seems in the past year. Its kinda sad that as humans we can not find a way to settle our problems and differences but we can put a man on the moon
Aug 11 2011 8:54AM
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THUGwife
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lol
Aug 11 2011 1:08PM
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Hoppy
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Yeah you're partly right. Like Yossarian said you can rip the piss out of the government all you want on TV, but you cant show footage from inside parliment, that is to be used in any sort of satirical way.
Aug 11 2011 1:54PM
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JMooore
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agreed although the vast majority of them are just out to get free shit and ruin peoples lives for no reason
Aug 11 2011 1:56PM
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vauban08
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Chill, I was trying to make a general point and never said that all Londoners are like that. I know it's a minority, but often minorities and their behaviour can tell you more about the group/society they belong to than the mass. If you compare western and middle east youth, you will see that kids from Egypt etc. still have things worth fighting for while all we do when protesting is trying to clash with police and robbing stores. It pisses me off to see that instead of attacking those who might be responsible for the mess, people light up their own disctrict.

And I by no means try to evoke the image that this is a British problem. If it helps: I've been living in London for the past year and have been in Paris the day the riots started a couple of years ago. Shit like this happens all over Europe. A saturated youth trying to get a kick by randomly destroying things. How must people from Arabic countries feel if they see what's going on here?

Sorry if you felt offended as a Brit. Didn't mean to.
Aug 11 2011 4:05PM
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ohmythugaim
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English news is nothing like America. America has a huge censorship and disinformation problem. On the BBC after/during the riots, they have a show called "newsnight".... The guests over several shows were: black rapper from hackney or something, church minister in the area, some other rapper, editor of a tabloid newspaper (idiot), someone who works in a community centre in one of the areas etc. etc. The debates on English news may not be perfect (far from it), but its a darn sight better than the shit you see on American media.
Aug 11 2011 9:46PM
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Yossarian
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Really? I never thought about that, but given some thought you never really do not see actual footage of political debate within the Parliament used in a satirical manner.

I'm going to look into this. There must be an example somewhere.
Aug 12 2011 10:12AM
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Hoppy
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Yeah, i only found out last week, because of this;

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/helen-lewis-hasteley/2011/07/commons-shows-stewart
Aug 12 2011 10:45AM
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Yossarian
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Learn something new everyday.

Anyone got a link for the US version of The Daily Show? I'd really like to see that.
Aug 12 2011 11:26AM
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ohmythugaim
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Google "the daily show"... you need a proxy of some sort to watch it from outside the US... i recommend "hotspot shield"
Aug 12 2011 5:08PM
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las.
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Aug 13 2011 10:32AM
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emilyiscool
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meanwhile in london...

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Aug 13 2011 1:38PM
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ohmythugaim
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Possibly the only post you've ever made that i enjoyed.
Aug 13 2011 3:43PM
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las.
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Highest estimated cost of riots: £100m.

Tax Avoidance by Vodafone: £6 Billion
Tax spent on Libyan intervention: £1 Billion
Tax avoidance in 2010 by richest people in UK: £7 Billion
Tax payers bill for banking crisis: £131 Billion
Tax money spent in Iraqi conflict: £4.5 billion
Tax money spent on Afghan conflict (up until 2007): £7 billion
Total MP expenses bill (2007): £87.6m
Perspective: priceless.
Aug 13 2011 8:56PM
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PacificRimJob
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bahaha.
Aug 13 2011 9:04PM
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rugmuncher
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gotta love Mr. Bean...
Aug 13 2011 10:15PM
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rugmuncher
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gotta love Mr. Bean...
Aug 13 2011 10:15PM
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skitheeast22
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hahahh this is great

Aug 13 2011 11:01PM
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john.stossel
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as always, people use their blackberries to start riots because theyre angry at the wealthy, such as the wealthy person who invented their cocksucking blackberry
Aug 14 2011 8:10AM
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