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Su[G]ar
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Why do almost all of us ski with poles? poles make it harder to grab sometimes come i the way when you spin onto a rail or if you loose the pole mid-air. snowboarders dont use poles so i dont get why we use poles. Please tell me, would Sammy Carlson not be able to do this if he didnt have poles? The reason Tom wallisch started with poles was because he got extremley bad scores at comps just because he didnt have poles, not because his tricks were bad. I have personally stopped using poles except when riding BC, then i understand that they can help allot. Snowboarders are just as good as we are and they dont use poles. I feel using poles in the park and urban is just like holding to sticks for no reason. So please tell me why does everybody use poles?
Aug 6 2011 1:11PM
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Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
a lot of people feel like it helps their balance and because they're holding something their arms won't flail around. also getting any additional speed between obstacles in a flatter area. they also stop you from looking stupid in lift lines.
Aug 6 2011 1:14PM
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DayMan
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i tried skiing no poles for a little while and for me it made spinning sketchy and didnt make grabbing that much easier and it made me feel unbalanced so i decided to go back to using poles. its all personal preference though
Aug 6 2011 1:17PM
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Su[G]ar
Posts: 564 - Karma: 38
still snowboarders dont use poles, does that mean they are better than us couse we have to hold sticks for balance and for better style? even when a snowboard is harder to hold you balance on then a pair of skis?
Aug 6 2011 1:19PM
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FerrisBueller
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heres where you are wrong, we are much better then them AND we use poles.

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Aug 6 2011 1:21PM
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FerrisBueller
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they give you a sense of 2 more connections to the gorund such as the two you already have as 'legs'. without poles my arms feel useless, allthough grabs are so much fucking fun without them
Aug 6 2011 1:23PM
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jeR.
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no poles = less stability, more flailing, tougher to balance, tougher to get speed... no style. very few people look good skiing park with no poles. both wallisch's and andy parry's style improved immensely when they started using poles. jeff kiesel, hornbeck don't need poles. even steve stepp, who is a great skier, would be much more stylish with poles i think.
Aug 6 2011 1:27PM
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SSteezle
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i'll agree that there are times that skiers don't look as good without poles, but i'd also argue that there are times that riding without poles just looks so sick. that said i think that skiing without poles really improves one's riding. you can focus much harder on grabs and it helps your balance overall as a rider. plus it's just so damn fun on the right days
Aug 6 2011 2:21PM
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smeeze
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I like them because they give me an extra feeling of balance and control. I think it's personal preference.
Aug 6 2011 2:28PM
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TheButterHashira
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Its personal preference. Some skiers can ride without poles and I not even think about their lack of poles. For me they extend my balance so I use them 90% of the time.
Aug 6 2011 2:37PM
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sweatshirt
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good for cat tracks
Aug 6 2011 2:54PM
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Thug**
Posts: 511 - Karma: 87
I never don't use poles but I think when you don't use then it makes you balance better, when I first started skiing I was falling ever run , then my instructor told me not to use poles bc it makes your balance better and then then the first run I didnt use poles I didnt fall once I
Aug 6 2011 2:55PM
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adamlukowski
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some people don't use poles

Aug 6 2011 3:02PM
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iLLbiLLy
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I have to ski without poles all the time cuz i work park crew. Its fun to ride that way, but overall its really hard on my bad knee because I end up skating and waddling so much to get around.
Aug 6 2011 3:06PM
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Utard
Posts: 2132 - Karma: 305
Ever tried maneuvering in a crowded, slightly slanted liftline? Especially on icy days?
Aug 6 2011 3:14PM
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Bi-ShredinalGuy
Posts: 1075 - Karma: 321
the way i see it, poles add soo much more style to a trick and i cant stand watching people ski without them it looks retarded
Aug 6 2011 3:14PM
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.R-Lohin
Posts: 1686 - Karma: 117
With poles hand plants look so dumb, I prefer not to ride with poles, but sometimes I will ride with my little shorty poles. I think this upcoming season I'm going to start using poles more often.
Aug 6 2011 3:25PM
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Kajex
Posts: 1069 - Karma: 178
unrelated, but the trick at 1:00. flat 5, right ?
Aug 6 2011 3:27PM
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adamlukowski
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yup

Aug 6 2011 4:03PM
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ShredAZ
Posts: 1054 - Karma: 641
I stopped using poles all together on the mountain and in the park last season. I think too often skiers rely on their poles too heavily for counterbalance.
Long story short, I find it MUCH easier for grabs and rotations.

I still use poles on pow days, but just for my everyday all mtn skiing I typically avoid it.
Different strokes for different folks. I would love to develope my style not relying on poles.
Aug 6 2011 4:08PM
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90053
Posts: 2565 - Karma: 3,728
You have to ride with a fairy low stance without poles or you look like a penguin also its one more thing to worry about style wise making sure your hands don't flail easier to look good without them although some pros do pull it off

Aug 6 2011 5:26PM
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@tlas
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPivykqAGAE&list=FLbNwluy3inYQ&index=4
Aug 6 2011 6:21PM
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xoxxooxo
Posts: 462 - Karma: 31
Poles.....i like
Aug 6 2011 7:14PM
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Hewbird
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Personal preference but surely poles have gotta give you more balance?
Aug 6 2011 7:17PM
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Piste.Off
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because some of us ski outside the park
Aug 6 2011 8:03PM
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array.
Posts: 2439 - Karma: 202
skiing without poles is like getting a blowjob from a guy, it feels great until you look down and realize your gay.

-Somebody else on ns.
Aug 6 2011 8:13PM
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EastCoast.
Posts: 1888 - Karma: 406
hahaha
Aug 6 2011 8:23PM
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snowbombz
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i prefer poles because they make skiing easier, so when somebody seriously throws down without them, im impressed.
Aug 6 2011 8:28PM
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Stickity
Posts: 7750 - Karma: 769
well if you want to get into the physics of it, riding with poles increases your moment of inertia so on rails and the like it makes your body less willing to tilt, thus increasing your balance, but at the same time your increased moment of inertia makes it more difficult to spin and flip. in actuality you'd have to be carrying logs for it to make a real difference. it's mental and personal preference.
Aug 6 2011 9:01PM
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grams.
Posts: 7406 - Karma: 186
I thought this topic of discussion was kicked years ago...
Aug 6 2011 9:07PM
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Literature
Posts: 13673 - Karma: 3,085
Seriously. I opened this thread and went, "Is it 2005?"

And yes, I was here then.
Aug 6 2011 10:58PM
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Kreech
Posts: 4178 - Karma: 3,024
this. Snowboarders can unclip a boot and stand regularly in a slightly uphill lift line. Skiers w/o poles either have to unclip one ski, stand really awkwardly to avoid slippage, or just slide backwards. poles ftw.
Aug 6 2011 11:13PM
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Merrill
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I like to mix it up but having no poles in a lift line that's slanted really sucks.
Aug 6 2011 11:38PM
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Utard
Posts: 2132 - Karma: 305
I think if people want to ride without poles in the park it's fine...just have fun in the liftline. But if you're skiing without poles anywhere outside the park you're retarded.
Aug 7 2011 2:47AM
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Mr.Turtle
Posts: 3690 - Karma: 96
when i was younger my parents stopped buying me poles since i would break them so often and after i started using them again 2 years ago everything just seems more connected
Aug 7 2011 2:55AM
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snowbombz
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Aug 7 2011 3:10AM
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LivinOuttaBounZ
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Every two years history repeats itself. This thread is proof.
Aug 7 2011 3:55AM
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grams.
Posts: 7406 - Karma: 186
I was here summer of '06 and about half the threads in ski gabber were about poles, or lack thereof.
Aug 7 2011 4:13PM
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just.a.kid
Posts: 114 - Karma: 217
skiing doesn't seem right without poles...
Aug 7 2011 4:19PM
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just.a.kid
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agree
Aug 7 2011 4:19PM
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Nufity
Posts: 993 - Karma: 171
Skiing without poles is like getting head from a guy. It feels good but then you realize your gay.
Aug 7 2011 4:22PM
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just.a.kid
Posts: 114 - Karma: 217
haha so true
Aug 7 2011 4:24PM
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easy.steezy
Posts: 2931 - Karma: 1,056
syntax on rails?  i'm curious to this, i thought they didn't have the best bases and edges for rails, i thought he'd be using the antidogma. 
Aug 7 2011 4:42PM
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GBS
Posts: 1386 - Karma: 33
I ski without poles most of the time in the park. I feel much more free, and I kinda feel like a ninja >=)
I try to keep my hands close to my body and not above my waist, so I don't look sketchy at all.
Spinning, grabbing and especially flipping is easier for me when im not using poles. Doing rails though is actually a little harder without poles though.
But I always bring my poles, and use them sometimes...
I don't ski as good then, but i feel a little more steezier when i use them.
But seriously, if you ski without poles for a week or two, and get used to it, you will see that skiing without poles feels like more fun!

Pros without poles:

+ Grabbing your skiis is easier.

+ You can't fall on your poles.

+ Flipping and spinning is easier.

+ Falling is safer, and it's easier to defend your body from falling with your arms.

Cons without poles:

- Doesn't look as steezy.

- It's harder to make your skiing look steezy.

- It's harder, (But more fun) skiing trees and pow.

Aug 7 2011 6:36PM
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jmasterp
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i never feel like i know where to put my hands
Aug 7 2011 6:39PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
Posts: 9215 - Karma: 5,398
this got me. it's also funny when i'm in a flat section and snowboarders want my poles and i'm like, lol.
Aug 7 2011 6:40PM
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XanderJames
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i actually think snowboarders look better with poles, next time you get the chance give a snowboarder your poles and let him bomb down a run... best thing i have ever seen, period.
Aug 23 2011 7:09AM
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razors-chaz
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Pro of poles: can be used to keep possible hot female snowboarders around you and not left behind, also + chivalry points helping you get in there if you desire.
Aug 23 2011 7:27AM
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razors-chaz
Posts: 2255 - Karma: 1,250
By keeping them around you i mean by getting them to hold your pole while you give them a slingshot to give them speed on flat ground
Aug 23 2011 7:30AM
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Elg
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yes
Aug 23 2011 8:43AM
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