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For people who's hesitating about TWIXTOR.

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kekelamalice
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Here is a video I've made this winter and where I showed how twixtor is a power tool !

Hope you'll enjoy.


Aug 3 2011 3:42PM
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TheClap.
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maybe its me, but that was painful to watch, wayyy over done

IMO
Aug 3 2011 3:44PM
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Stang*
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where do i begin here...first off please dont use twixtor. secondly you need to do some editing other than twixtor. pretty much all your shots were a little over exposed.
Aug 3 2011 3:50PM
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belden...
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Is it supposed to jump and be all slow and have the audio fucked up? i dont get it
Aug 3 2011 3:50PM
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eheath
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Well, you wasted 10hrs of your life rendering to make a stupid video. How that use of twixtor powerful? you just slowed everything down so slow that i had to fast forward through the edit to watch it. Twixtor is overused and with this video you are beating a dead horse.
Aug 3 2011 3:51PM
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Stang*
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one of the best analogies i have ever heard.
Aug 3 2011 3:54PM
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LAME.
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Aug 3 2011 4:00PM
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NJurkiewicz
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It was not just you it was painful to watch.
Aug 3 2011 5:21PM
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WillStart
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nobody is hesitating when it comes to twixtor. every ns'er and their grandmother has it, which is why nobody should ever use it again.
Aug 3 2011 6:07PM
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S.C
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Very true. Twixtor will take away from 99% of edits now that it's so played
Aug 3 2011 6:08PM
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WillStart
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yeah. i honestly can't even think of the last time i was remotely impressed by the use of twixtor in an edit
Aug 3 2011 6:15PM
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NJurkiewicz
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Personally I really liked this video with twixtor but it was also the first video I saw with twixtor; ever since this video have never liked videos with twixtor other then this.
Aug 3 2011 6:20PM
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B1kessk1s
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mega glitchy video IMO! thats wasn't a good twixtor use IMO
Aug 3 2011 6:27PM
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WillStart
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Wasn't really a fan....there was some bad warping in some of those shots. classic case of kids on newschoolers not knowing how to use twixtor and not looking out for warping/not caring that it's there. plus the colors kinda hurt my eyes. but i can see how you would like it since it was the first twixtor edit you saw.


i actually just remembered the last time i was impressed with twixtor in an edit:

Aug 3 2011 6:28PM
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NJurkiewicz
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It might be glitchy when I embedded it because It wasn't glitchy on Vimeo. But this was also the first time I saw twixtor last year so that maybe why I liked it but I might be the only person who likes it but that is alright haha.
Aug 3 2011 6:30PM
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WillStart
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i actually watched it on vimeo and there was still very noticeable warping, i think that's maybe what he was referring to
Aug 3 2011 6:33PM
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reverendwrong
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Slow motion really should just be used to accent something...not as a whole fucking edit...even Sal Masakala would say that was over use of it.

An effect is only good if it has effect, a gnarly tree tap or some ridiculous tweak on a grab or some snow spray, but its only for very brief periods.

Also trying to have it skip frames to have it match the song was great in theory, but ended up looking like the visual representation of a scratched CD.

Aug 3 2011 6:35PM
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NJurkiewicz
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Oh yah I didn't understand what he was talking about and yah I knew that. I knew overall it wasn't good it and had some issues like the colors and stuff which I agree I didn't like I just liked some of the twixtor effects. But never mind I forgot about the BC Team edit I loved that haha I would have posted that instead if I remembered haha.
Aug 3 2011 6:38PM
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andstuff
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Slow motion only looks good is its cut right. If you use it for skiing, people generally want to see the entire trick, which makes the shot too long, and look...poopy.
Aug 3 2011 8:08PM
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skituner
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like everyone else said, that was dumb. if it is not a good shot in the first place, slowing it down does not make it better
Aug 3 2011 8:20PM
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1337
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twixtor and timelapses are so fucking played, please stop using them in edits. like forever.
Aug 3 2011 8:26PM
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Shredability
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I think twixor is pretty sick when a video is played in full speed during a trick, then half way through the trick it halts to almost a dead stop for like 1/2 a second then continues at full speed. Like once in an edit, then never again, and it has to be perfectly timed with the music.
Aug 3 2011 8:28PM
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Mkvackay
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agree with twixtor.. but timelapses?. those have become my favorite to shoot these days. maybe a little over played in edits but they are super fun to shoot and can turn out amazing
Aug 3 2011 8:29PM
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1337
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/end discussion
Aug 3 2011 8:47PM
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Jacuse
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Both can really add to an edit when done right. People just need to get more creative with the uses of them
Aug 3 2011 9:43PM
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Tanner-D
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Do not agree with time lapses being overplayed
Aug 3 2011 9:47PM
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eheath
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Well, they are.
Aug 3 2011 9:57PM
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Tanner-D
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But to say to never use them again is almost absurd and to say never use twixtor again is absurd. Although played out they have a time and a place.
Aug 3 2011 10:01PM
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cgrinnell
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I agree with regular static TL's being over played, but I am completely down for sick motion TL's.

If the person has taken the time to have a well executed motion TL, I am always interested as I know how difficult it is to make them look the way good.

An example of this can be seen here... http://vimeo.com/16369165

Aug 3 2011 10:04PM
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NJurkiewicz
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this
Aug 3 2011 10:06PM
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WillStart
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you have to take context into consideration.

to tell a kid on NS to never us twixtor again is NOT absurd, it's stopping us from suffering through more poorly twixtored clips and edits.


anywhere else, sure, if you can use twixtor in a cool and creative way that actually makes sense then go for it.
Aug 3 2011 10:15PM
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cgrinnell
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agree
Aug 3 2011 10:23PM
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Tanner-D
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I completely agree I guess I did take it out of context. I;m sick of seeing warped out twixtor shots.
Aug 3 2011 10:45PM
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gordie.
Posts: 2014 - Karma: 84
anyone who makes more than 50% edit in any kind of slow motion clearly is compensating for one of several things, including lack of camera control, lack of camera stability and, most likely, a lack of work ethic.

haul a goddamn tripod up the mountain, shoot at a normal frame rate and make something that actually looks good and stands as a piece of work among the community. An edit that's 100% slow motion (no offence to DTF) just really doesn't do anything for me anymore.

Time lapses and overcrank have their moments, but should be so so seldom.
Aug 3 2011 11:17PM
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eheath
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This. Full speed jumps and rails at 24p is fucking awesome. Some slow motion is nice when you need the detail of slow motion (like example i had a shot of will berman doing a sw 10 mute to blunt, slow motion was needed to even see the trick). I also don't mind a few slow motion shots in a row to a build up in a song either. Its all about working with the audio and video to create something that flows well, not just a whole edit at 10%.
Aug 3 2011 11:23PM
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OMGHEDIDNT
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nothing to do with twixtor but I disagree with this statement. Last year this was one of my favorite edits:

Aug 3 2011 11:24PM
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RDem
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sorry for being a noob here. but like what is twixtor? all i know is it makes everything slow. is it like a final cut effect or something? i dont make edits so thats why i dont know

Aug 4 2011 10:42AM
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WillStart
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it's a plug-in for final cut. it allows you to slow clips down much more than a normal speed tool in an editing program could. it does that by analyzing the motion of the pixels and it makes a guess as to what frames would fill in the gaps to give very smooth slow motion. but it doesn't really work well if the background is complicated. the more busy the shot is, the harder it is for twixtor to figure out what the pixels should do.
Aug 4 2011 11:12AM
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Tanner-D
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Good skiing but I couldnt make it through half this edit
Aug 4 2011 3:41PM
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Downtofilm
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Funny that you say that cause I dont remember the last time I made an edit at 100% slo motion.
Aug 4 2011 4:27PM
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Downtofilm
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actually BC team was the last edit that I made that was 100% slo mo
Aug 4 2011 4:30PM
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*simba*
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Came here to post this edit.

Also, I don't know why the fuck you guys are saying that time lapses shouldn't be made anymore and that they are played. Shut the fuck up.
Aug 4 2011 4:34PM
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OMGHEDIDNT
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I guess I just have a difficult/different taste in edits than, because your statement is the way I felt about almost all the big movies last year.
Aug 4 2011 4:37PM
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plorr
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Yea idgaf if they are played or not they are so much fun to shoot. First thing I'm doing when I get a decent slider for my camera is rigging up a rotisserie motor motion control for TL.
Aug 4 2011 11:32PM
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Mkvackay
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im looking to do the same. but with work probably not til next summer
Aug 5 2011 2:23AM
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gordie.
Posts: 2014 - Karma: 84
I didn't say at 100% slow motion, I said an edit that is 100% slow motion. As in the entire edit or close to it is slow. It used to be a turnoff from your stuff for me, but you've gotten better about it (Sandy's edit). It's a niche thing however, and you do a good job with it. I'd be lying by saying edits like the BC team edit or Braedon Wheeler's aren't almost completely slow mo, but I'd also be lying if I said they aren't very very well done.
Aug 17 2011 9:13PM
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cashdebt
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Theres only so many timelapses that can be showcased in a ski specific edit because of the environment we film in. At a certain point its just the same thing over and over again and when you compare the people who know what their doing to the people that suck, people get pissed it seems. If your putting in tl's in your edits, make them unique more than anything. That being said, the only way you get better at tl's is making lots of them, although every single one doesn't need to be showcased. Fuck i don't even know if this makes sense, i'm so tired right now. Anyway, if the timelapse is good why the fuck not, put it in there. I'm all for timelapses. But if its not essential to the edit or just plain shitty then spare us and leave it out.
Aug 17 2011 11:27PM
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sector_6_films
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 heres my edit from over the winter with a littletwixtor but not to much .....NOT OVERKILL
Aug 17 2011 11:57PM
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gordie.
Posts: 2014 - Karma: 84
Don't doubt yourself, you're right on the money.
Aug 17 2011 11:58PM
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juicedrummer11
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I used twixtor in this edit...i know how most people feel about slow mo and the whole first half of mine is in slow mo but the 2nd half makes up for it


Aug 18 2011 11:20PM
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Balto
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that was just awful
Aug 18 2011 11:44PM
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