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Bush IS an Idiot

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Melvs
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lets turn this into a debate. Bush was quoted as saying:
'No democracy can allow religious people to impose their own view of perfection on others, because this invites cruelty and arrogance that are foreign to every faith.'
Does he realize that he is VERY guilty of doing that? like, is he seriously saying that? what about all these anti abortion, safe sex only, and anti stem cell research stances he's taken?
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Aug 7 2004 12:28AM
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skiierman
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this is going to be a pretty one sided debate melvs. everyone on this site agrees with you that bush is a dumbass.



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Aug 7 2004 12:33AM
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Saltines
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Ok I'll play the part for Bush for a change of pace!
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Aug 7 2004 12:35AM
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J.D.
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Caleb is The_Real_Redneck. Why was he not banned? He should've been. I thought Harvey stopped all of this madness.

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Aug 7 2004 12:36AM
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skiierman
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Caleb should have been banned, the kid is the biggest Bush on this site.



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To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

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Aug 7 2004 12:37AM
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trevorwoulddoit
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Nope. While BigJ (Intelligent if a bit blind) and the Atlanta crew (flat out Idiots) are the most prominent supporters of Bush on this site, there's a ton of people that do. Don't underestimate their numbers.



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Aug 7 2004 12:41AM
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trevorwoulddoit
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Wait. That wasn't meant for you. It was about your original comment about there being no Bush supporters.



Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all who claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think everything you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told you should want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex (or same sex if you prefer). Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic.
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Aug 7 2004 12:42AM
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feihlination
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Melves, please post nothing else. Just because your post count is cool.





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Aug 7 2004 7:08AM
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SkiUnit03
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that is pretty cool, but yeah, there are quite a few conservatives on this site





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Aug 7 2004 7:38AM
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jcm8
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i think that thing was in stratham thats were i live!


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Aug 7 2004 9:08AM
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Melvs
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no, that one wasn't from straham, that was from a few weeks ago (give or take a few).
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Aug 7 2004 9:44AM
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triebby
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those are his personal views dumbass. hes not forcing anyone to believe them hes just saying wat he thinks.


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Aug 7 2004 10:15AM
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SmoKinSkier
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Although i see your point you also have to look at his position in power. There either has to be a law against or one protecting abortion. Same with stem cell researh. In either case you upset a religious stance. As a politcal leader he is forced to choose and of course he will choose his personal views. You cannnot blame him for that. Every President does that, now you guys are just trying to hard to attack Bush.




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Aug 7 2004 10:35AM
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Melvs
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well faggot, if you read the quote I have of his there, is that not EXACLTY what he's doing? cause I would be willing to say that without any doubt, that is what he is doing.
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Aug 7 2004 10:36AM
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Melvs
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agreed, but there ARE other cases (I'm far to lazy to go dig them up) where he has specifically said eh has done something in the name of god. and MANY times he has made comments attesting to his god. whether you see it or not, he is doing what he can to shove his conservative Christian values down our throat. being NOT religious, I resent that, as do the millions of non Christians (and even some Christians) in this country. I can't wait to vote against him, and then see him loose.
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Aug 7 2004 10:41AM
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sim
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I can't wait until he wins, and I get to see four more years of redundant threads.


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Aug 7 2004 12:35PM
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Phrosty
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^yo yo yo true dat doggg


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Aug 7 2004 12:55PM
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midwest_rep2
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I met my first real Bush supporter yesterday at a bar, one of my old high school friends. He supported Bush because of 2 reasons: His parents were getting a lot of money back from the govnt (They are extremely wealthy) and he supported Bush's 'aggressive war tactics'. He said about time someone started killing off the Arabs and bombing the shit out of all those backwards countries. I looked at him horrified, asked him if he was serious, and he said yes. He said that's why most of his friends like BUsh too. I don't even know what to say, besides that's terrible.
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Aug 7 2004 2:32PM
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punk_rider
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you hate him. but you (as a people) elected him! Bush IS GREAT! do you know another 100% sure way to never have AIDS? only one, no sex before you find the girl you will marry. about abortion, what if in several years, a new scinentific stuff prove that foetus IS a human being? we will all be the worst killers ever! about cell, is it okay to play with life? whatever the form? Not about religion, imposing nothing, too mauch state competencies, but, what would be a guy governing without beliefs?
Aug 7 2004 3:47PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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im not even going to get into this


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Aug 7 2004 4:21PM
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J.D.
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^Thank God.

And me neither. Best to keep it in the cult. But I always point this out and will continue to do so until punkrider gets the idea:
''but you (as a people) elected him!'' No, they didn't. He lost the popular vote. Everyone knows that.

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Aug 7 2004 4:27PM
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punk_rider
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please!! bristol!!! get into this!!!!!
Aug 7 2004 4:27PM
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J.D.
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Why? He does nothing but hurt your side, anyways.

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Aug 7 2004 4:30PM
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Jibtech
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those are his personal views dumbass. hes not forcing anyone to believe them hes just saying wat he thinks.

Actualy he is trying to force his view on us... he panders endlessly the the ultra conservative christian right for as much support as possible (he is infact a full fledge born again christian... which in my eyes is pushing twoards the lines of the christian equivalent of an islamic fundamentalist)

He is pushing as hard as possible for a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT banning gay marriage on religious grounds. Last December Bush said a constitutional amendment will be needed if 'Judicial rullings undermine the sanctity of marriage'

The previous october Bush said his administration's laywers were looking for a way to legaly limit marriage to heterosexuals. When he was asked if gays were sinners he responded:

'We're all sinners. We're all sinners.'

If you ask me... thats a pretty fucking sketchy thing to be coming out of our presidents mouth.

Separation of church and state was one of the corner stones of the foundation of this nation... Bush is trying hard to remove that separation.

Stem cel research is another HUGE religious issue for him.

quotes sourced from http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/17/bush.gay.marriage/














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Aug 7 2004 5:49PM
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punk_rider
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some countries have not this separation and work ok!!!! well, fuck that!!! maybe it's fundamentalism, but it's mine! the Christian one (too bad he is not Catholic!!!). ban gay marriage, and after all, one Christian fundamentalist is maybe the only to fight dozens of islamic fundamentalists!
Aug 7 2004 5:53PM
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Jibtech
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You mean like... Iran?












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Aug 7 2004 5:54PM
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Melvs
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if you could find a translation of the post above from incoherant to english, let me know, I'd like to read it.

PS, Punk Rock is dead. has been for a LONG time.
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Aug 7 2004 5:56PM
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punk_rider
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iran and more ... for melvs or whatever, maybe you would prefer to show us your skills in french or german? uh?
Aug 7 2004 6:08PM
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punk_rider
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iran and more ... for melvs or whatever, maybe you would prefer to show us your skills in french or german? uh?
Aug 7 2004 6:08PM
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J.D.
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I'm sorry, I must've had something stupid in my ear there... did you just say you think IRAN is functioning WELL?!?

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Aug 7 2004 6:09PM
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punk_rider
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NOOOOO!!!! i mean, iran is a fucking evil, so if we need christian fundamentalism do destroy this iran government, i say goooooooo!!!
Aug 7 2004 6:14PM
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Jibtech
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Wir können gleich diese Thema auf Deutsch besprechen.... Französische Zicklein sollten nicht an diesen Themen teilzunehmen.

Its not that I don't like you personaly... I just don't like a smart ass who knows nothing of the topic at hand.












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Aug 7 2004 6:29PM
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Jibtech
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Ou vous préféreriez votre lanuage indigène?












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Aug 7 2004 6:43PM
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^what?

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Aug 7 2004 6:49PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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come on man. i dont even speak a lick of french and i could figure that one out.















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Aug 7 2004 6:52PM
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Jibtech
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you are so smart man.












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Aug 7 2004 6:53PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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no man. thats the point.















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Aug 7 2004 6:54PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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thats three consecutive posts with the use of the word 'man'... 4 now...















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Aug 7 2004 6:55PM
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Jibtech
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the point is bush is a quack with a reliously charged agenda.












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Aug 7 2004 6:56PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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hmmm... ready for 4 more years of it? harharhar.















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Aug 7 2004 6:57PM
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Jibtech
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*religiously.... so that anewmorning cant belittle me for my incompetence












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Aug 7 2004 6:58PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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come on now... i dont do that... usually.















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Aug 7 2004 6:59PM
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Jibtech
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haha riiiiiight












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Aug 7 2004 6:59PM
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ATLskier
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Aww, I had to get into this, but not so much just a few facts to put forward:

Bush winning the election...

1. It's somewhat confusing, but, you can't really say that Bush didn't win the popular vote, and you can't say he won it either. Ex. Bush could have won in a landslide in Texas, and those votes could have outnumbered those that Gore won in Florida. It's hard to explain, but I hope that some of yall can understand it.
2. Many people may not have voted because of the media. Many TV stations reported that Gore had already won before the polls closed, detering both Bush and Gore voters. There are so many things that influeced that election that you can't say that BUsh won or didn't win the popular vote.

'Separation of Church and State'
The constitution does not call for a wall between church and state. It says only 3 things about religion.
1.Article VI 'No religious text shall ever be required as a Qualification to any office or public Trust under the US.'
2,3. Amendment I 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise therof.'

I'm not going to get into the rest of the argument of Bush 'imposing his religious beliefs.'

One last thing: Bush will win the election. Republican states have gained electoral votes, while Democratic states have lost them. Also, Hilary Clinton is basically lined up to run in the 2008 election. They will do what they can to show support for Kerry, but they will try not to let him win.
Aug 7 2004 8:46PM
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ski8990
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jibtech is funny cuz hes so damn smart and everyone else is like blah blah blah and hes like bamn! in your face



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Aug 7 2004 9:24PM
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SkiSundownJibber
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^and you're like, 'Bam,' on his nuts, because you're, like, so 'mediocre.' Man.



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Aug 7 2004 10:14PM
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Melvs
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'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise therof.'

that right there is pretty much the separation of church and state. also, through precedent cases brought before the supreme court, there has been a clear line drawn.

as for all this bullshit about bush wining the election, I'm just gonna laugh and pretend you're joking, cause it's hilarious how ignorant and wrong what you said is.
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Aug 7 2004 10:55PM
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J.D.
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Don't even bother with him, it's not worth the argument. Every reliable poll has said that it's far too close to call, and they only poll expected voters... as has been said, sept 11 changes everything; we have no idea who will vote this year and who will stay home. There's no way to predict this election realistically.

Oh wait. I just argued with him. Guess I enjoy wasting my time for no good reason.

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I’ll be around
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Here I am
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Aug 7 2004 11:08PM
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petek
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Whether you support Bush, and his policies or not, is totally different than thinkn that this guy is a total moron. The time he actually appears with normal intelligence is when reading, otherwise the guy just cant think of a right answer.


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Aug 7 2004 11:41PM
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