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Surface Double Time for me? +K

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C.R.G.M.
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Just looking for a one ski quiver sorta, Dont have deep pow all that often at my mountain, mostly just for runs, and fuckin around the mountain in the park and such. I weigh 200'ish and im 5'11 (Looking at the 180). Ski aggressivly around the mountain. And there in my budget range. For me? +K for legitimate answers.

Jul 30 2011 1:38AM
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C.R.G.M.
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No help?
Jul 30 2011 5:09AM
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84891jnf92048
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where do you live?
Jul 30 2011 8:17AM
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BIGben*
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Jul 30 2011 9:44AM
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mountainviper
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Double time is a real decent ski....rips park, all mountain....even does pow halfway decent....it's a good all round ski....if you can get it cheap do it....otherwise look at the lines....
Jul 30 2011 1:26PM
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C.R.G.M.
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Sorry, Vancouver, British Columbia, Home mountain is Grouse/Whistler
Jul 30 2011 2:13PM
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gr4
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i skied them all last year as my daily driver park/all mountain ski. really fun on the groomers and in the park, has a really nice side cut and turn well even when mounted center. they have a really soft tail, which i was skeptical of at first, but it made ollies and butters way easy. i only skied them on one pow day, but i thought they were awesome for a non rockered ski. they floted decently and allowed for an absurd amount of faceshots in only about a foot of fresh. oh and i have an extra pair of brand new 10/11's that i would be willing to let go of for a lot less than retail, so pm me if youre interested.
Jul 31 2011 2:30AM
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84891jnf92048
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Double times could be a great pick for you. as long as you don't mind a really stiff ski. They softened up the tip, and made the tail stiffer to balance out the flex, but they are very stiff. Still really fun to play and jib around on, awesome on rails, great on jumps, plus they hold an edge like a fuckin boss.

If you don't get that much pow, and it isn't really ever deep, and you want a stiff, light, fun ski, Double Times are perfect for you.
Jul 31 2011 8:28AM
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C.R.G.M.
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Ive heard plenty of things on surface skis breaking? Is there an explanation?
Jul 31 2011 6:15PM
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84891jnf92048
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They do have some durability issues. For example, Line uses incredibly thick bases, as well as massive edges to lessen rail and any other damage. Surface uses thinner bases and the average width edge to keep their skis light, which they successfully do. Line also uses Maple block cores, where Surface (I am pretty sure) uses a single piece of ash. Line's cores are known to be some of the strongest in the industry, but Lines are also much heavier than Surfaces.


The double time is one of Surface's least durability-challenged models. I have never heard of any Double Times breaking (except for the ones my friend broke, but he has an uncanny ability to break skis). Surface's main problem was with the 9 Life, and then the first No Times snapping pretty easily. This year, they redesigned the No Time core to make it stronger.

But Double Times are not skis you should worry too much about breaking. They are real strong, beefy skis, due to their thickness and stiffness.




And I officially sound like I should work for Surface. Anyone want to put in a good word with them for me?
Jul 31 2011 6:33PM
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C.R.G.M.
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There mine now. Thanks for the convincing. Much appreciated! +K
Jul 31 2011 7:43PM
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mountainviper
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Your gonna love em...and no matter what anyone says my buddy rips sidecountry on em so they'll be decent in fresh....definitely unique ski that anyone I know who gets em falls in love with...you'll be stoked...have fun!
Jul 31 2011 7:58PM
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DUKES
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does anyone know how true the sizing is im 6'3'' and i need all the ski i can get
Jul 31 2011 8:26PM
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mountainviper
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Dukes my buddy who rides em is like 6'2" and like 250lbs...he's a friggin bear...but he rides the 180s without issue....in all honesty I have seen him land real backseat on a few massive booters and wash out but if ya ask him he will tell ya it was his fault and not the ski...as far as your normal park type stuff he slays on those 180s though so I think you'll be good.
Jul 31 2011 8:37PM
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C.R.G.M.
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Also a good mounting position for them?? I dont do my "Pow" kinda deal as much as I do runs/park/groomers, whatever you wanna call. I was just thinking Dead Centre, more versitile.
Jul 31 2011 8:45PM
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mountainviper
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I'd actually do about -1,-2 of dead center......when you look at the running surface you'll see what I mean...my buddy has been ridin surface a long time and that's the only ski he doesn't mount dead center....pretty sure he went +3 of whatever the midsole mark is....it really is all preference but because he's such a big guy he said that dead center sent him over the handlebars a few times landing in pow....somethin to consider....look at em before ya make up your mind and get totally committed to center.....if I were to recommend I'd say -1....but I'm not you so....I dunno.
Jul 31 2011 8:55PM
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DUKES
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aight thanks especially if he's about 250lbs he has 90 pounds on me
Jul 31 2011 10:38PM
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84891jnf92048
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the midsole mark on double times is dead center... your buddy mounted +3 from center?
Jul 31 2011 10:58PM
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mountainviper
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Maybe he went -2?...I'll have to ask him but dude he is super super tech when it comes to gear....he measured those things 25 times when he first got the second set to be sure....and he was gonna stay at what I thought was midsole cause he had such a tough time at center...I actually talked him into bumping it up a touch....actually wait....doesn't surface have numerous measured lines on the skis?.....ranging forward and back of center?.....I dunno he's probably crashed right now but I'll hit him up tommorrow and ask for sure....I don't ride em so let me make sure before I throw out some booshit.
Jul 31 2011 11:20PM
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84891jnf92048
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double times have one line on them, and it is dead center.
Aug 1 2011 7:44AM
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mountainviper
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Funny...I jus talked to him...he said he doesn't remember where the line is cause he doesn't pay attention because theyre usually wrong anyway...he typically measures dead center and said his double times are at -1.5 of MEASURED center....sorry for the mixup there but like I said it's all preference anyway and was jus conveying an experience....if the op is 90lbs lighter than my buddy he should be fine at dead center BUT my buddy said HE would recommend -1....and rides everything at dead center except that ski so take that as you will.
Aug 1 2011 10:22AM
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Willard
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I think they are super flexy but thats probably cause i have never ridden a true park ski that wasnt a stiff flex.
Aug 1 2011 2:07PM
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ktd619
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does anybody know if they're going to make a smaller size of the double times for this years model. im only 5'4" and i feel as though the 170 is too big for me.
Aug 1 2011 3:50PM
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DUKES
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that size is perfect

Aug 1 2011 3:52PM
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mountainviper
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Yeah they def give ya an ineresting style...360 butters and such look so odd...cool but different
Aug 1 2011 3:58PM
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84891jnf92048
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the tails are really soft. next year the tails are stiffer and the tips are a bit softer.
Aug 1 2011 5:33PM
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