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cosmia
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http://www.youtube.com/v/s47ArcQL-XQ?version=3&hl=en_US">





Lots of good reasoning in this video. In one of my favorite responses it is said that when believers speak of the natural world they speak of pretty orchids or butterflies and reason that only an intelligent designer could ever conceive and create it. The believers never say, "Oh, only a God could create a worm that will eat an impoverished African kids face out and make the child blind for the rest of his life." Except it's said much more eloquently in the video. Discuss.
Jul 27 2011 12:00PM
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zues
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Jul 27 2011 12:02PM
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ohmythugaim
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inb4...
Jul 27 2011 12:15PM
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TechnoPotamus
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Jul 27 2011 12:17PM
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zues
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my god is a ninja, fighting off evil samuri

My god wears a tuxedo tshirt because its like saying "I wanna be formal, but I'm here to party too"

Jul 27 2011 12:33PM
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Freshbakedbread
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god isn't real... /end thread
Jul 27 2011 12:35PM
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muFFn
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GET YOUR UMBRELLAS HERE! PREPARE YOURSELF BEFORE THE STORM!

ONLY $15, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
Jul 27 2011 12:44PM
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Algebra
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Gargle gargle
Jul 27 2011 12:50PM
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Keenan_Jones
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its actually sad that these people have no faith in anything. Their opinions are their opinions and I respect it. It's just a sad way at looking at life. I couldn't imagine not believing in ANYTHING.
Jul 27 2011 12:54PM
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cosmia
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I agree with you that it is sad. But it is also sad that a president has to pretend to believe in God if she wants to get elected.
Jul 27 2011 1:09PM
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H8CH
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They have faith in themselves, and in those they surround themselves with...

Which is all you need really imo....  as i feel the same.

I do not need or want anything else from this universe - it is what it is, and im perfectly happy  in the knowledge that when it's over, it's over.... 

If only people would just stop worrying about what happens to them once they die and focus that energy into living there lifes day to day the world would be a better place...

Disclaimer: in my opinion... 

Jul 27 2011 1:12PM
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TechnoPotamus
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this. this. this.
Jul 27 2011 1:13PM
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yeahno
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shit. shit. shit
Jul 27 2011 1:20PM
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TechnoPotamus
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poop. poop. poop.
Jul 27 2011 1:22PM
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Cufe.
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Jul 27 2011 1:23PM
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ohmythugaim
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Ill give you about tree fiddy.
Jul 27 2011 1:39PM
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muFFn
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Alright. Only because business isn't going as well as I expected...
Jul 27 2011 1:43PM
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technique.
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fuck y'all. i come prepared
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Jul 27 2011 1:56PM
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technique.
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fuck. my poncho wont be enough
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Jul 27 2011 2:00PM
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[~_~]
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The teleological argument is fallacious because design exists in the observer, not the object.
Jul 27 2011 2:02PM
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feihlination
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as h8ch said, faith is not equal to inventing an invisible god.

thinking that picking some random religion or more likely have it picked for you provides you with anymore "faith" is pretty lame imo.

if god is out there, he is a sadist fucker that doesnt give a single fuck about anything. and he is not allmighty nor allknowable.
/rant

and yes i am disrespectful to religious people but religious people who take their religion seriously are also disrespectful towards my logic and reason.
Jul 27 2011 2:03PM
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Mr.Panda
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This thread is now about cobra blood:


Since I am pretty sure this shit gets talked about on NS a couple times a summer and has the same result as all other religious beliefs. Nothing but bashing of all religions and people of said religions for being ignorant when some important things come about because of the structure of religions.

Think about it... If it wasn't for the Arab Muslims the ancient work of the Greeks would never have been translated into a language on paper that could travel with religious workers from Europe BACK to the countries of Europe to be translated again into western languages.
Jul 27 2011 2:03PM
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zues
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thats how i see it my friend. too bad more people don't think like this
Jul 27 2011 2:07PM
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zues
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i like this. And i have to add 'being a good person'.

I think thats the only real reason I like religion, or at least Christianity. I've noticed amongst my friends, christians tend to be the most caring and helpful which is a great quality in humans.
Jul 27 2011 2:11PM
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zues
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because your logic is stupid. how can he be god if he's not all 'allknowable' (not a word you goon)or allmighty?

lol

and you're generalizing. not all religious people are like this, but if i was I'd be rude to you too with this type of attitude ... lawls.
Jul 27 2011 2:14PM
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pmw
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but dont you see, thats exactly what a devoutly religious person does! that fear or expectation of death and an afterlife help to shape the way they live. you may call it silly to believe in a heaven or a hell, but if a person whole heartedly believes that there will be a judgement day, and the only way to reach that eternal salvation is by living a healthy, moral, overall good life, is that so bad?
obviously there are extremists who negate this on both sides of the spectrum, but people focus too much of their attention on such a small minority.
i in no way think one belief is better then another, simply that they are...different.
if eating apples makes me a better person, and eating oranges makes you better..whose to say one is better then the other? it makes me want to rage quit when people have the audacity to ridicule anothers beliefs when it has literally NO FUCKING IMPACT on how they live their own life. sure i hate the catholic cook who condemns me to eternal damnation just because i dont follow the bible to every extent, but no more then i hate the stuck up, pretentious atheist who calls me a retard just because i think there is more to death then rottting away.

basically believe what you believe, and fuck all you who think you can tell me how to live
Jul 27 2011 2:40PM
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yeahno
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shut the fuck up
Jul 27 2011 2:42PM
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pmw
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hey you're the type of guy i dont like
get fucked buddy!
Jul 27 2011 2:43PM
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Toasty.
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im an atheist, but i respect all

Jul 27 2011 2:48PM
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PJS.
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Boom
Jul 27 2011 3:49PM
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burnsie.
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this
Jul 27 2011 3:53PM
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pimpcat
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This!
Jul 27 2011 4:01PM
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Mr.Panda
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Makes a great bumper sticker but that's about it.
Jul 27 2011 4:07PM
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PJS.
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How is respecting all beliefs not valid in any way besides a slogan?
Jul 27 2011 4:10PM
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Mr.Panda
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Because it will never fucking happen.

Fact is that the Israeli Jews and the extreme conservative faction of Islam will NEVER get along because in the views of said Muslims the Jews showed up, tried to commit genocide in 1948 and kicked them out of their homes. The Jews view that sect of Islam as terrorists that are refusing their right to have a homeland.

Add to that history to the fact that the way they have fought each other is that the Muslims have chosen to bomb school buses and malls with the Israelis retaliating by launching missiles into towns and you have a recipe for hate breeding hate.

It's a slogan that can be followed by parties outside of conflict but if you are a person growing up in the conflict it will never happen.
Jul 27 2011 4:13PM
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Toasty.
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set the extremist aside
Jul 27 2011 4:29PM
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PJS.
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we can try...
Jul 27 2011 4:33PM
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.jesus.
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you clearly fail to understand humanity
Jul 27 2011 4:44PM
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H8CH
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Double Boom!

Jul 27 2011 4:49PM
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PJS.
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I try
Jul 27 2011 4:51PM
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Toasty.
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bible.....

Jul 27 2011 4:54PM
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[~_~]
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You want proof proving God exists?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Jul 27 2011 4:54PM
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PJS.
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Lol prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it does not
Jul 27 2011 4:55PM
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Mr.Panda
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Sure you can set the extremists aside from all points of view but then that's like doing a physics problem that involves objects in motion and going "don't worry about friction or gravity".


The really really sad part is that the "Big 3" of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity which also happen to be the 3 that seem to hate each other the most are basically the same damn religions for the most part. Mohammad even said (and I am paraphrasing based on what we studied in my ME history class) "Judaism and Christianity and what I am preaching are all children of the Book that came from Abraham"
Jul 27 2011 4:55PM
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Toasty.
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its religion, the argument is never going to end. its like the war.

i have read that quote. and its true, almost every religon is the same execept for a select few.

Jul 27 2011 5:00PM
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ImNotARacist
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If god is real, cool

If god isn't real, cool
Jul 27 2011 5:06PM
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shocker611
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yeah.. they are SO tightly related and all of this war and everything goes against EVERYONES religions. Every one of the three religions calls for respect with the others, but we just cant get past things. its not religion thats fucked up, its us that are religious that are. Those idiots on the street corner yelling at you have it all wrong and are directly betraying the teachings of the bible, just the same way that the terrorists are doing the same with the Quran. I just hope that people realize that the majority of religious people arent these idiots
Jul 27 2011 5:10PM
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MANDER
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Exactly how I feel
Jul 27 2011 5:13PM
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Utard
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Can someone give me irrefutable proof, right now, proving God does NOT exist?

Enough with these bullshit religion threads. Look. It's the internet. Nobody gives a fuck about what you think. No meaningful debate ever comes out of these. It usually turns into a bunch of attention whore atheists bashing on an overgeneralized image of a 'religious person,' with a couple of dumbass theists who come in and use only the most fallacious arguments, only strengthening their own stereotypes. You're not going to convince someone to see it your way by posting a youtube video or typing a bumper sticker sloagan.
Jul 27 2011 5:15PM
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baethoven
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this. go ahead and believe in him, but please please please don't try to make me.
Jul 27 2011 5:16PM
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