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My Completed DSLR Rig

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*Fujative*
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Well almost. I just about completed my DSLR rig. I need 2 more arms, 1 for my light and 1 for my H1 recorder. I also ordered a larger strap for my lens for I can put my camera on a slider plate for the follow focus. The shoulder rig was ordered from ebay from a seller called Gini, his website is gini1.com but he has great cheap rigs. The matte box is from DV City. The focus is from ebay as well, called "RJ Follow Focus." What do you guys think?

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Jul 24 2011 4:54PM
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S.C
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thats pretty cool man, jealous of your 5d mkii! What lens is that on there?
Jul 24 2011 5:08PM
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S.C
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and how much was the setup total?
Jul 24 2011 5:09PM
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eheath
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Why do you have the kit lens on there? not exactly a compatible lens with a matte box...
Jul 24 2011 5:46PM
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*Fujative*
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It wasn't a kit lens, I bought the lens before I bought my 5D. I'm waiting on the new 24-70mm from Canon to come out.

What do you mean by not compatible with a matte box? It works just fine.

The shoulder rig was 300, FF was 150, matte box was 225
Jul 24 2011 6:06PM
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S.C
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doesnt the front element move in and out when zooming/focusing
Jul 24 2011 6:08PM
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eheath
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it looks like the 28-135 4.5-5.6....


and if the front of the lens moves when you zoom or focus, its not exactly compatible with a matte box cause you would have to undo the matte box every time you wanted to reframe/refocus.
Jul 24 2011 6:15PM
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eheath
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You also might wanna consider getting an EVF, that loupe is pointless on that rig...
Jul 24 2011 6:24PM
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*Fujative*
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This you are correct about, however I have a slider quick release plate that fixes that. Its not a huge deal.

As for the loupe, EVF would be nice. The rig is off set at least for the loupe to work.
Jul 24 2011 6:45PM
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eheath
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ok, well the 28-135 is a kit lens.
Jul 24 2011 7:53PM
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deleted2
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well i mean, so is the 24-105 hahahahahahah just saying
Jul 24 2011 7:54PM
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S.C
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for the 5d mkii the kit lens is actually the 24-105
Jul 24 2011 7:54PM
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*Fujative*
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Yeah, I wish I had the 24-105 which is the kit, I have the 28-135
Jul 24 2011 8:13PM
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eheath
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no fucking shit, im just wondering why the fuck he's using that shitty lens.
Jul 24 2011 8:20PM
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NataliePortman
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chill brah, ur not exactly the best filmer on the block
Jul 24 2011 8:27PM
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WillStart
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sort of uncalled for.



i am also curious, seems like an odd lens choice for a rig like that
Jul 24 2011 8:29PM
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S.C
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sort of unrelated, but what standard zooms have internal zoom and focusing for a matte box? obviously the 70-200s do, but im pretty sure the 24-70 doesnt
Jul 24 2011 8:31PM
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NataliePortman
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yea, i guess your right. He also said that he was waiting for a new lens, and that the rig wasnt exactly complete. which should have answered the questions
Jul 24 2011 8:33PM
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gordie.
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check the thread title
Jul 24 2011 8:36PM
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gordie.
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17-40 does I know... All L series glass has internal USM focusing; obviously not all have internal zoom though
Jul 24 2011 8:37PM
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Balto
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then why did you call it a kit lens? its not a kit lens for a 5d2
Jul 24 2011 8:38PM
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1337
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70-200's all have internal zooming too.

24-105 and 24-70 both do not
Jul 24 2011 8:50PM
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NataliePortman
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read the body
Jul 24 2011 8:57PM
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*Fujative*
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Holy fucking hate!

Its a lens, it gets the job done. As soon as the new 24-70mm comes out I will be picking one up.
Jul 24 2011 9:07PM
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eheath
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Because its a lens, that comes in a kit. its a kit lens. its WORSE than the 5d "kit" lens.
Jul 24 2011 9:11PM
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1337
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i also have that same mattebox!
Jul 24 2011 9:21PM
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skituner
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what kind of stuff do you shoot that you need a huge rig like that? and someone please explain to me why matte boxes are necessary for anything outside a legit film production?
Jul 25 2011 12:13AM
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deleted2
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They hold 4x4 filters
Jul 25 2011 12:15AM
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family_vacation
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HDSLR owners want clients to think that their camera is larger and better.
Jul 25 2011 1:00AM
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*Fujative*
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For both of the above reasons, to hold 4x4 filters, and to make the camera looks bigger.

Granted I have a lens hood to prevent flare but it does help out for flare too.
Jul 25 2011 1:17AM
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This is often the case.

However certain parts definitely serve a function. Grip handles are great when you are taking a camera off and on a tripod 100+ times a day, FF is necessary for pulling focus with a telephoto, and a rail system is the "heart" that holds it all together. I personally don't see the point in huge shoulder rigs, or matte boxes for for DSLRs. A shoulder brace does practically the same thing, and Lee makes awesome 4x4 filter holders that take up much less space.

Either way, cool setup!
Jul 25 2011 4:28PM
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kalum.ko
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Wait, how do you use your follow focus with the matte box?
Jul 25 2011 8:59PM
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Coalescent
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I hate this shit about lenses.. Who cares..if it's what he has and it works for him, that's great! I've seen awesome stuff shot with a "shitty" kit lens and shitty stuff shot with an awesome lens.

Please, please, please drop the shitty lens talk. Its not the lens, its the operator.

End rant.
Jul 25 2011 9:10PM
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WillStart
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It's not just the fact that his lens is bad, it's the fact that he spent all the money to buy a matte box (which, as we all know, is only used to look legit for 99% of DSLR users) instead of a nice lens.

It kind of makes it look like his priorities are much more focused on spending money on superfluous additions to look legit instead of things that are actually useful. People can say what they want about matte boxes blocking lens flare and being used for 4x4 filters, but they're unnecessary for the vast majority of people.

Whether that's true, I have no idea, and I mean no hate by it. I'm just saying that's the impression it gives.
Jul 25 2011 9:19PM
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Coalescent
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Completely Understandable. I just don't understand how it's a "bad" lens.

A bad lens in my opinion is something you can't see out of. The optics may not be as clear as an L lens or other lenses, but most kit lenses provide a very clear picture for the price!

Don't get me wrong, if you have the money, go for something better, however, filmers can shoot great stuff with a kit lens in the right situations. I do like the follow focus though. Probably going to pick one up for my Gh1. Unless I sell me hmc40 and purchase an af100.
Jul 25 2011 10:34PM
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At that point it is no longer a lens.

Lens IQ is fairly subjective, however it is pretty easy to grasp what a bad lens is. Soft focus, chromatic aberration, barrel distortion, slowness, poor housing, short throw, sticky focus ring, etc. are all characteristics of a "bad lens." I'm sorry but just because you're happy filming with a webcam doesn't invalidate the concern for quality glass.

Having said that, people aren't bitching because he spent more money on superfluous features than what really matters (lenses). They were simply commenting on how a matte box doesn't work when the end of the lens barrel shifts when zooming, which is what occurs on a kit lens.
Jul 25 2011 11:13PM
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Coalescent
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Gotchya! Misread the thread then. Oh well.
Jul 25 2011 11:15PM
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WillStart
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well, some people were talking about how matte boxes are pretty useless for most of us
Jul 26 2011 12:42AM
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*Fujative*
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I thought the barrel moving in and out would be bad with the box, but its really not a big deal. On Wednesday, I should be receiving my larger gear so I can use my slider plate. So when I zoom, I just release the plate and slide it accordingly.

As for the matte box being pointless... I do shoot outdoor which helps for flare. Can I have made my own DIY one? Sure. Did I really feel like it? Not really.
Jul 26 2011 12:45AM
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TravelsTI
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Found this pretty interesting for others looking at dslr rigs

http://www.dslrrigcomparison.com/dslrrigcomparison.pdf

Jul 26 2011 1:14AM
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skituner
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Jul 26 2011 2:12AM
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CoachG
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not necessarily. maybe with that particular matte box, but they make matte boxes with what they call a "donut hole" and basically it's sort of like a flexible band with a cloth that goes around the lens so when you zoom in and out, the tension allows the cloth to expand and contrast so you can zoom without any issues of hitting the matte box itself/letting light in. I work at sort of a rental house, and I spent weeks finding one that would work with our AGAF-100 and the 7-14.
Jul 26 2011 12:50PM
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Max-Steeze
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so what do you film with this rig ?
Jul 26 2011 3:27PM
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*Fujative*
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I have filmed 2 short films, and I'm going to working on my 3 music video. I have shoot a bunch of other stuff but not with this rig.
Jul 26 2011 5:46PM
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OCM
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how did this guy get so much karma?
Aug 19 2011 10:33PM
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1337
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Evan is an og member
Aug 19 2011 10:35PM
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blatt
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1337 h@xx0r
Aug 19 2011 10:41PM
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hahahaaaa
Aug 19 2011 10:55PM
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