Used for a season. Still in good shape, liners have another solid molding bake left in them but thicker intuitions would probably be better anyway. Come with B and C tongues, plus 1 extra B, extra parts, stiffeners, spoilers, straps etc. Also have custom Surefoot foam liners in them... probably won;t work for you, but give them a shot, and maybe get some shop work done on them and theyll be a much sturdier liner for you. Asking 250 + ship from CA. Paid 650 shop price...