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Official NFL 2011-2012 Thread

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.spaghetticat.
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To stay up to date on all this NFL shit

I think Chad Johnson Ruins the Game hes such an attention lover


now go!
Jul 7 2011 9:56PM
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Answerless
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I crush your hopes with another Tebow Video.
http://youtu.be/zMK9FKMG3Nc
Dec 13 2011 9:45PM
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Aidan-G
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I'll raise you one

Dec 13 2011 9:51PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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hahahha I fucking hate the patriots but Zoltan is pretty sick being that his name is Zoltan and he's 6'5" financial genius punting in the NFL, his pic with George Muresan and Danny Woodhead on the right

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Dec 15 2011 5:08PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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Chiefs end the undefeated season today and get revenge for the Super Bowl I loss
Dec 18 2011 10:22AM
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Ben.
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Bears season is even more over now. Hope Knox is ok. Never wanna see a dude out with a neck injury...
Dec 18 2011 1:37PM
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pelle_munch
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not gonna lie, broncos are gonna get crushed today. but i would be miraculously cool if they won ahha
Dec 18 2011 3:11PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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so much better than making the playoffs...


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Dec 18 2011 4:05PM
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.Hugo.
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No effing way...

Idk how they did it but wow. So glad there wont be an undefeated team
Dec 18 2011 4:07PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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not saying this is the reason but; there was always rumors that Todd Haley knew he would be fired before the end of the season and was basically sabotaging us with his play calling. Aside from a few mishaps on personel changes Crennel dominated today
Dec 18 2011 4:09PM
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.Hugo.
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Whoa. Never heard abut any of this, and that is a pretty serious accusation (not saying you came up with it or that you are wrong). But I find it kinda hard to believe that a coach would do that.
Dec 18 2011 4:18PM
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PON3
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GO CHIEFS!!!!
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Dec 18 2011 4:19PM
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scratchproteen
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because the packers offensive line is completely over rated and they have major injuries on their offensive line....you just got to apply pressure.
Dec 18 2011 4:23PM
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1337
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come on patriots
Dec 18 2011 4:54PM
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pelle_munch
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brocos are comin out hot... don't know about this one. broncs will probably lose but it would be miraculously awesome if they won
Dec 18 2011 4:58PM
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1337
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i'd punch a kitten and kick a baby i they did
Dec 18 2011 5:04PM
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pelle_munch
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you won't have the resources or abilities to do that
Dec 18 2011 5:06PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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Megatron
Dec 18 2011 7:16PM
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Good_Deed
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tim tebwho? yeh brady
Dec 18 2011 7:29PM
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pelle_munch
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cant win all of em. raiders still suck, so it doesn't change anything
Dec 18 2011 7:32PM
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Bear_Grylls
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And reggie bush with a huge day for the phins. Im loving it. We can be a major dark horse in the next couple of weeks.
Dec 18 2011 9:30PM
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arandomname
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Ravens need to pick it up.  Rivers is picking the defense apart right now.  And I hate Billy Cundiff.
Dec 18 2011 9:54PM
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feihlination
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fucking chargers and eagles, why you dont win just one of those easily winnable games more? eagles need the second coming of jesus and the chargers have to rely on the chiefs... and give k.warner or h.evans some credit, if i remember correctly, both picked the chiefs as being the only team able to stop the undefeated thing, espeially in arrowhead. if ypu can disrupt the receivers at the line with physical corners and apply pressure, gb can be beat and quite easily so because their d is not as dominating as last year
Dec 19 2011 6:55AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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wasn't there a discussion about horse collar tackles being legal on a qb in the pocket? I definitely saw it called in the Lions Raiders game
Dec 19 2011 5:21PM
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feihlination
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check some pages back or the nfl rules section for examples of horse collar.

i have even seen a no-call (dont remember which game) a few weeks back on a RB who was in the pocket.

if it was called, it was an error
Dec 19 2011 6:25PM
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feihlination
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it could happen, no question.

if healthy and on a good day, they are a very good team, among the best. and they would give a pass-first team like the packers quite some fits because they have good corners and a good pass rush, and we all saw what KC did to the pack.

i so hope that the eagles make it, because otherwise the NFC-tournament will only draw my interest to see the pack fail as i predicted a few pages earlier.

giants are WAY more inconsistent then the eagles. apart from the seahawks game, the eagles didnt lay a complete egg against a bad team, and even they are resurrecting. cowboys are the safest bet right now and that is saying a lot.

i expect the eagles to beat the cowboys by a legit margin.
Dec 19 2011 6:30PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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this sucks
Dec 19 2011 9:56PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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anyone watching tonight? I can usually stomach any NFL game but Im gonna have to take a pass on this one.

this weekend should be sick tho, so many games on tv
Dec 22 2011 9:12PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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Peytons gotta be happy, altho I heard this week that the Colts might try to trade the #1 pick if they get it which would be one of the craziest moves ever
Dec 22 2011 11:56PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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huuuuge weekend coming up

(yea you've seen it a million times but its still worth hitting the play button haha)



also I was watching Leno with Terry Bradshaw as a guest and was surprised that I had never even considered to possibility of a Super Bowl rematch between PIT and GB before he mentioned it
Dec 24 2011 12:37AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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Dec 24 2011 12:42AM
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feihlination
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can someone explain me the tiebreaking scenario in the afc west?

YEAH THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION BUT NOW I HAVE RESEARCHED IT MYSELF AND SOLVED A FEW SCENARIOS:

i know that the chargers will stay infront of the raiders no matter what if they win out. i also know that the chiefs win the division in case all four teams end up 8-8.

but how is it when only the chargers, raiders and broncos finish with the same record? or only the broncos and the raiders?


MY OWN SOLUTION for the DEN-SD tie:

the chargers and broncos split their meetings (1st tiebreaker).

they also will end up 3-3 in the division (2nd tiebreaker) if the broncos lose to the chiefs and SD beat the raiders in wk 17.

common opponents record (3rd tiebreaker): both lost against NE, GB and both won against MIN, MIA. DEN won against CHI and NYJ and SD lost. DEN lost against the DET though and SD won against the bills. meaning that DEN is 4-3 and SD is 3-4 against common opponents. so if DEN loses to BUF and SD wins against DET they end up 4-4 against commons opponents.

next tiebreaker is record in games played within the division. again the broncos will ensure at least a tie here (curr: 6-4) vs. SD (curr: 6-5) if they win one of the remaining games.

BECAUSE the SOV and SOS (next two tiebreakers) are clearly favouring the broncos and i am not sure that they will change enough over the last two games for SD to get in.



BOTTOM LINE:

KC gets in if all teams end up 8-8. meaning two DEN losses, two KC wins, OAK beating SD if SD wins against DET.

DEN elimininates SD & obviously KC from the race if they one game due to my essay up there.

the DEN-OAK relationship is not so clear, but i know that DEN wins the division if they beat BUF and OAK loses against KC.




i have absolutely no doubt that the chiefs roll over the broncos in wk 17 no matter if they are still in contention or not.

i also think that they will be too much for the raiders to handle.

so the fate of the division pretty much lies within the bills hands.

i know i am a chargers fan but the only team out of the division could wreak SOME havoc in the playoffs is SD. KC could also be legit depending on how good orton plays (and i would wish orton that he kicks the broncos out in wk 17). but the raiders are fading and the broncos played good D and ran the ball, yes, but they also got lucky. straight out lucky. even DEN fans will admit that.

in other words, i am pretty sure that, now that there is a lot of tape on tebow, head coaches around the AFC flat out pray that DEN or OAK get in. i will assure you of that, just believe me.









Dec 24 2011 7:12AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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yea the west is a huge mess, plus the Chargers are the only team with a chance to actually win a playoff game if they make it. I wish I was as confident in the Chiefs as you are tho.
Dec 24 2011 10:14AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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shit is really confusing:

Week 16 AFC WEST playoff-clinching scenarios:

Denver clinches AFC West Division:

1) DEN win + OAK loss or tie

2) DEN tie + OAK loss + SD loss or tie

Denver clinches a wild card spot:

1) DEN win + NYJ loss + CIN loss + TEN loss or tie

AFC West Week 16 playoff elimination scenarios

OAK eliminated from playoff spot with OAK loss + CIN win or tie

OAK eliminated from playoff spot with OAK loss + NYJ win or tie

OAK eliminated from playoff spot with OAK tie + CIN win + DEN win

OAK eliminated from playoff spot with OAK tie + NYJ win + DEN win

SD eliminated from playoff spot with SD loss + CIN win or tie

SD eliminated from playoff spot with SD loss + NYJ win or tie

SD eliminated from playoff spot with SD tie + CIN win + DEN win

SD eliminated from playoff spot with SD tie + NYJ win or tie + CIN win + DEN tie

SD eliminated from playoff spot with SD tie + NYJ win + DEN win

SD eliminated from playoff spot with SD tie + NYJ win + CIN tie + DEN tie

KC eliminated from playoff spot with KC loss or tie

KC eliminated from playoff spot with DEN win or tie

Complete AFC WEST clinching scenarios:

How Broncos Can Win AFC West:

1) DEN wins last 2 games

OR

2) DEN beats KC in Week 17

OR

3) DEN beats BUF in Week 16 AND OAK loses 1 of last 2 games

OR

4) OAK beats KC in Week 16 AND SD loses to DET in Week 16 AND SD beats OAK in Week 17

How Raiders Can Win AFC West:

1) OAK wins last 2 games AND DEN loses to KC in Week 17

How Chargers Can Win AFC West:

1) SD wins last 2 games AND DEN loses last 2 games

How Chiefs Can Win AFC West:

1) KC wins last 2 games AND DEN loses last 2 games AND SD loses 1 of last 2 games





also i saw some graphic on espn that gave the statistcal odds for each team winning the division it I cant remember it exacltly but Im making a REALLY rough guess here that it was

80% Broncos
20% Chargers
15% Raiders
5% Chiefs
Dec 24 2011 10:28AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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ok those percentages dont make sense
Dec 24 2011 10:31AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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ok those were the estimated odds for each team to just make the playoffs. here are the actual odds

DEN 83
SD 20
JOK 11
KC 5

odds for each team to win division

DEN 80
SD 7
JOK 8
KC 5
Dec 24 2011 10:37AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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HELLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO



how is there like a 70 page thread on white trash stanced cars on here but an NFL thread can't even stay on page 1 during one of the most important gamedays of the year...
Dec 24 2011 1:50PM
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Aidan-G
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Because no one wants to have a conversation with you
Dec 24 2011 2:07PM
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Aidan-G
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But I will say that all I want for Christmas is
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Dec 24 2011 2:21PM
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1337
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fucking patriots, how do you guys work!??!!?
Dec 24 2011 2:23PM
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Aidan-G
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Two things going on there

1. Reggie Bush finally found a home in Miami. I feel like he has doubled his career totals since playing for Miami

2. New England's awful record setting defense is just doing what they've been doing all season long. Suck
Dec 24 2011 2:38PM
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Ski_ThEast
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can anyone explain to me how they had enough proof to overturn that touchdown by the giants?  His elbow appeared to land on the cleat and the ruling on the field was a fumble.  There was no way there was enough there to overturn the call on the field.
Dec 24 2011 2:44PM
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Aidan-G
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And that is why injuries to Ford and Moore have killed the Raiders. Glad to have Moore back
Dec 24 2011 3:02PM
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Aidan-G
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That was one of the weakest penalties I've ever seen. Get your shit together refs
Dec 24 2011 3:29PM
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GayWolf420
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Hahaha tebow.
Dec 24 2011 3:50PM
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General_Ripper
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yea, getting raped by the bills and I can't even watch the game since they suck soo bad.

opens the door for the raiders though.
Dec 24 2011 3:52PM
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jimmer
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RICHARD SEYMOUR
Dec 24 2011 4:10PM
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Aidan-G
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HEYWARD-BEY
Dec 24 2011 4:11PM
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PON3
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Dec 24 2011 4:14PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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hahaha that sucked of course we get screwed over by the most illogical rule in american professional sports
Dec 24 2011 4:17PM
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PON3
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We would of won if it wasnt for special teams sucking the biggest dick alive. who gets a field goal blocked.....let alone 2!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 24 2011 4:18PM
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