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real_talk
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http://news.yahoo.com/ny-motorcyclist-dies-ride-protesting-helmet-law-143217859.html


Jul 4 2011 10:22AM
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steezysteeze
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Welp that's kind of ironic.
Jul 4 2011 10:27AM
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Relish_man
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lololololo natural selection at it's finest! haha love Darwin Awards, have a book full of 'em at home endless lols ensured
Jul 4 2011 10:49AM
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emilyiscool
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wow am i a terrible person for laughing my ass off at that for the last like 5 minutes?
Jul 4 2011 11:02AM
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ohmythugaim
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>Ryan Dunn drives drunk + way too fast and dies
>everyone on NS is sad and hates on people who say he was stupid

>Random stupid person dies
>OLOLOLOLOL
Jul 4 2011 11:19AM
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bangarangmules
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I saw this on my local news the other day and said the same exact thing.
Jul 4 2011 11:23AM
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LittleFoot
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this. ryan dunn may have been stupid but it was a good kind of stupid. this guy was just plain stupid
Jul 4 2011 12:13PM
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PartyHon
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boom haha
Jul 4 2011 12:15PM
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Blurst
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How was killing himself and putting other lives at danger a good kind of stupid?
Jul 4 2011 12:15PM
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corona
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good kind of stupid??? he was drinking and driving and going an obscene amount over the speed limit. It doesn't get much more idiotic than that. I kept it to myself when that was going on but he honestly does not deserve the liberty of life if he puts others' lives at risk by being a complete idiot. This guy, as stupid as he is, was only putting hi own life at risk.
Jul 4 2011 12:26PM
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ILLinoisance
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Through watching TV and movies, people felt like we knew the guy, therefore they were sad.

For this random guy, almost everyone has no connection to him, therefore (as bad as it sounds) it's kind of humorous when he dies in such an ironic fashion. People have no idea what kind of person he was.

Both deaths were the result of stupid actions, but I really don't believe that one stupid action is something to judge the quality of a person upon.
Jul 4 2011 12:35PM
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artfullydodged
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can everyone shut up and appreciate the irony here.

RIP
Jul 4 2011 12:41PM
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TheDavisMobile
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That is ironic. Very ironic. But what if Ryan Dunn had crashed into another car, would everybody still ignore the fact that he was driving drunk?
Jul 4 2011 12:53PM
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Mr.Huck
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Not sure that is Darwin worthy. May not be creative enough, although the irony is great.

One of my faves was the guy who was trying to shake a drink out of a vending machine. He was rocking it back and forth and it fell on top of him and crushed him.

I also love the one where the guy decided to trash his girlfriend's car by beating if with a loaded shot gun while holding onto the barrel of it. About the 3rd time he hit the car, the shotgun went off, leaving a hubcap sized hole in his chest.
Jul 4 2011 12:53PM
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cobra_commander
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The irony is great, but that does not mean we should have helmet laws.
Jul 4 2011 1:42PM
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Blurst
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there should probably be helmet laws
Jul 4 2011 1:56PM
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sherwood4099
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Well he killed a goodfriend  and passenger

Anyone who gives him any kind of pass on drunk driving is only doing so because he is a highschool tv icon
Jul 4 2011 2:08PM
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sherwood4099
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For sure if anything he is an example of why its a waste of .gov time and money to enforce

People should be free to do stupid things if they hurt only their dumbasses in the process
Jul 4 2011 2:10PM
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cobra_commander
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Why? Is it the government's responsibility to babysit people?
Jul 4 2011 2:14PM
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Blurst
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no but it is there responsibility to protect people.
Jul 4 2011 2:15PM
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cobra_commander
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People are fucking morons.

Jul 4 2011 2:15PM
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corona
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by that logic there should be absolutely no laws for the safety and well being of a countries citizens. There should be no laws about murder, nothing about speeding, no regulations about food hygiene or workplace safety. you're thinking a touch backwards. however, there shouldn't be any helmet laws for activities that are powered by a human. such as a bicycle or skateboard etc
Jul 4 2011 2:17PM
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Piste.Off
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yes actually. thats why we have any laws in the first place.
Jul 4 2011 2:19PM
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Blurst
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Ya I just didnt feel like writing that much but this is correct.
Jul 4 2011 2:22PM
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cobra_commander
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Your logic jumped a few steps there...

Why should a bicyclist not be required to wear a helmet but a motorcyclist should?
Jul 4 2011 2:23PM
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Blurst
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because a motorcycle is a motorized vehicle that is capable of travelling up to speeds of 200+ Kilometers per hour.
Jul 4 2011 2:28PM
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cobra_commander
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And what about that should make it so people should have to wear a helmet when they would not have to on a bicycle that can maintain speeds in the 20-30mph (flat road)?
Jul 4 2011 2:30PM
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corona
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since you have to draw a line somewhere, otherwise some lunatic could say "well running is dangerous so runners should wear a helmet!". I propose the line should be drawn at: if it's human powered, you don't need a helmet. To be a bit more specific, if it's powered by some sort of mechanical engine you should have to wear a helmet.
Jul 4 2011 2:33PM
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Blurst
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This post makes absolutely no sense. Please re phrase it in a way so that I can understand it.
Jul 4 2011 2:34PM
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cobra_commander
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But why? If people want to disregard their own safety let them.
Jul 4 2011 2:36PM
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corona
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although it's entirely situation depending. personally I don't think someone should have to wear a helmet for a 40cc moped that can't go much above 35. but then I think someone playing contact hockey should have to wear a helmet
Jul 4 2011 2:36PM
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cobra_commander
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Your logic is simply missing.
Jul 4 2011 2:37PM
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scratchproteen
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*Facepalm*


Jul 4 2011 2:38PM
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snowflexzone
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i don't know whats better, the ironic death or the arguments
Jul 4 2011 2:40PM
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corona
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logic being, humans can be inherently stupid. you just have to look at smoking to figure that out. sometimes someone with a bit of sense needs to step up and protect us from ourselves.
Jul 4 2011 2:43PM
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ILLinoisance
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At me for a misplaced "we"? or at society, in general?
Jul 4 2011 2:48PM
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ILLinoisance
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Yes, this is one of the few responsilities of the government. However, the choice of not wearing a helmet is only detrimental to the user, not anyone else. Therefore, laws and helmet laws should not be laws. It is the right of the person driving the vehicle to decide whether or not they want to harm themselves if they were to get in an accident.
Jul 4 2011 2:54PM
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TheClap.
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haha
Jul 4 2011 2:57PM
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DERS.
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lol. dumbass
Jul 4 2011 2:58PM
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cobra_commander
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At 200 kph the helmet is worthless. The shock wave of the impact will deliver enough trauma to kill.

An impact on to hard cement from 20-30mph is enough to kill or permanently handicap someone.
Jul 4 2011 3:03PM
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POWDER.RANGER
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haha yes, darwin awards at its finest
Jul 4 2011 3:19PM
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real_talk
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you're a moron. the government should only step in if the actions of that one person affects another. not wearing a helmet only affects that individual. by the way there are no laws in NH requiring helmets or seat belts because they realize its fucking stupid to force people to make personal choices for them.

and stop arguing, someone died here. have some respect.
Jul 4 2011 4:36PM
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zagfan5
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i enjoyed this comment made at the bottom of the news page

"I don't wear a helmet because there's a law, I wear a helmet because I understand physics."


i could say this is why i wear a helmet skiing as so do the rest of the smart ns'ers.
Jul 4 2011 4:39PM
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RubberSoul
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i'll never understand why sometimes people insist on regarding the entirety of the NS population as one entity, then being unpleasantly surprised when that "one entity," comprising thousands and thousands of people and opinions, expresses varying or "hypocritical" ideas. makes no sense
Jul 4 2011 4:41PM
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snowbombz
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buddy, i believe the government will have to pay for police to clean up the dead person, which is paid for by taxes.

And if one person is not buckled in in a car, their unsecured body has the potential to kill many more people than just themselves. I have talked to police officers about this, trust me.

Ya someone died, and thank god they are out of the gene pool.
Jul 4 2011 4:45PM
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Blurst
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But the poor choices of citizens ultimately effects the lives of many others, such as fire crews who will have to clean up the dead body, the families of the person not wearing the helmet, the countries hospital system, (at least in Canada where every stupid injury is a burden on our health care system).
Jul 4 2011 4:49PM
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ILLinoisance
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Yes, their dead body is affecting the roadway, so it is the government's responsibility to keep their roadway clear. As for the body's flying. Anything large and heavy in a car has the potential to fly out the windshield and harm someone. Not to mention all of the exterior of the car that could potentially be ripped off in an accident and kill someone. There are risks like this in driving a vehicle. More times than not, it's the debris from the car that would do the most damage to a bystander or someone in another car. What do you say we do about that? There's only so much the government can control and regulate.

Oh, and most cars on the road nowaday have airbags, which makes this situation even less prevalent.
Jul 4 2011 4:54PM
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Geb
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this
Think about if we had noo laws....
Jul 4 2011 5:01PM
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ILLinoisance
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Helmet or not, dead or alive, he would most likely need medical attention, and his bike towed. Not much more is needed to be done for a dead body (perhaps, less). I know it's a terrible thing to say, but if the guy valued his life and the feelings of the people who cared about him as much as he seemed to by not wearing a helmet, then who else are you to blame besides the guy himself? Definitely not the government....
Jul 4 2011 5:01PM
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real_talk
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buddy, everyone who shows up to an accident scene is being paid anyways except for the wreckers who gain business by going there to pick up the pieces... that's an incredibly idiotic point saying that someone dying is wasting peoples' tax money.

and as for people wearing seat belts, it's up to the driver to make sure the passengers in the vehicle to wear seat belts which is an extremely small exercise in PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. it should be common knowledge that the driver is responsible for what people do in the vehicle... and why are you even talking about seat belts when this thread is about helmets?
Jul 4 2011 5:04PM
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