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How do you speed check/guinea pig a big jump?

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midwest_rep2
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How do you guys do this? It scares the shit out of me and personally I've never hit anything over 70, mostly because there arent any where I live and the times I've traveled and found some I just can't hit them because I have absolutely NO idea how much speed I should have. When I was younger i would hit bigger tables and I remember sometimes when i thought my speed was just right I would come up 20 ft short or over shoot by 20 ft. Is it something you just learn over time or what?
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Aug 1 2004 11:05AM
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justinm
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well to start of you should always like make a speed check, like brake on the jump and youll get and idea and always remember thats if its a big jump its always better to over shoot than under shoot





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Aug 1 2004 11:27AM
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locus
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fuck yeah... no speed checks, those r 4 bitches wit no brass...like above stated, it's better 2 go to big than 2 short...go huge!






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Aug 1 2004 11:30AM
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ECfreeski3
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ya, u need to have agood sense of speedetc. also likehe said comeinto the jump then stop, but i like to comeinto the jump at an appropiate speen then keeping thespeen andriding right over thedeck, itwill give u a really good feel for wat it will be like.
or if ure in a new park with good kids already hitting it, just use the speed they use obviously
but i still want to knowhow they checked the speen on the superpark 120 ft gap last year...
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Aug 1 2004 11:32AM
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ECfreeski3
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^speen=speed . ya.
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Aug 1 2004 11:33AM
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locus
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or just wait until someone like myself goes first, then base your speed off of that!





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Aug 1 2004 11:34AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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get out your calculator and notebook and do some calculations. Anyone know the coefficience of friction for snow?

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Aug 1 2004 11:37AM
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ECfreeski3
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well anything under...60 or so u can def just go for it. but a 120 ft gap with bigconsequences makes u think a little more
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Aug 1 2004 11:42AM
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ECfreeski3
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i wasjust reading the SBer mag issue about rice and romain hittin chads and pyramid gap for the 1st time on snowboards. they didnt really talk much about exactly how to speed check but they asked a few skiiers and they hucked snowblls across to check the trajectory. but they also overshot by a lot on their first hits.
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Aug 1 2004 11:47AM
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BoomBotix
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Just go check the jump out from under the lip. The biggest thing I look at is how long the landing is rather than the tabletop. Don't worry about casing it ever if you straightline. On big ones, seriously consider wind during the drop too...might sound too technical but it makes a huge difference on your approach speed and carry. Overshooting isn't always the easy way either though; I dislocated my hip last season from that.
Aug 1 2004 11:47AM
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LittleDevil720
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i always speed check and undershoot the jump, then have too much speed, sucks when it happens
Aug 1 2004 11:48AM
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skiierman
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just trust your instinct. go at whatever speed seems comfortable for the jump. works everytime.



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Aug 1 2004 11:57AM
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Caden
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well see the coefficient for ptex or wax vs. snow wouldn't be entirely accurate because when you ride over the snow, the skis create a layer of water and etc etc you know how skiing works, so you would have to incorperate the friction of the wax on water, wax on snow, and then all of the other factors that wouldn't be very obvious.

ummm yeah and just take more speed then you think you need cause you don't want to just make the landing on the first one, usually with a table that big you will have gigantic landings, if not, be careful.
Aug 1 2004 12:07PM
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LC.
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Yeah, definately. If the landing is long and steep then just straightline into it. I'd rather crash on the landing than come up short on something 50+ft.
Aug 1 2004 12:30PM
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forfun
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all the huge tables where i live have massive long landings so theres no way you can overshoot. (not that im good enough to hit those) but i get scared by little 40 footers so i just watch some guy and see how much speedhe has
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Aug 1 2004 12:31PM
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holyDINOSAURS
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yea it depends how long the landing is but i if i was just straight airing i wold prefer to case..u dont fall as far...if im spinning or flipping id rather over shoot tho...nice sloped fall-way
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Aug 1 2004 12:39PM
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nilzlet
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overshooting looks coolers too



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Aug 1 2004 12:45PM
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jensen
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if you are too afraid to hit a big jump do everyone a favor and don't hit it. take more time on the smaller ones until you move up to the big ones.

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Aug 1 2004 12:46PM
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holyDINOSAURS
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yea it depends how long the landing is but i if i was just straight airing i wold prefer to case..u dont fall as far...if im spinning or flipping id rather over shoot tho...nice sloped fall-way
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Aug 1 2004 1:11PM
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alev
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overshooting looks sick, so id say get alot of speed and ur all set

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Aug 1 2004 1:57PM
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midwest_rep2
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well I'm talking about the biggest midwest jumps where it is like a 70fter and then the landing is 10ft of near vert. Basically you have 1 chance to nail the landing or you're dead.
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Aug 1 2004 2:12PM
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Aug 1 2004 2:17PM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
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yeah but if you really overshoot sometimes you smash your head on teh ground and get knocked out, which is gay.
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Aug 1 2004 2:47PM
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dilla_says_go
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dude just fucking straightline that shit and tuck it in.
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Aug 1 2004 3:57PM
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ECfreeski3
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ya i know that, but that doesnt work on 120 foot death gaps
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Aug 1 2004 5:32PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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well you could find out the coefficient of friction by sliding down the hill once and timing it. Anyone thats taken high school physics should be able to figure all that stuff out in about 10 minutes.

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Aug 1 2004 7:23PM
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skiierman
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come on now just huck it. it worked for mike wilson and it will work for... nvermind... stupid thought.



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Aug 1 2004 8:04PM
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Aug 1 2004 8:09PM
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*rkp*
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yeah speed checkings for pussies.
Aug 1 2004 8:11PM
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Girays_Brother
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u just gotta get ur balls up and go.. check out the jump first if its really big tho



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Aug 1 2004 8:30PM
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west
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What I usually do.......if the jump is built with as having the take off and space to just go over on either side, come in at the speed you think you need, but just go up and off to the side, you can usually get a pretty good idea this way.




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Aug 1 2004 8:34PM
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scratch3
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whoever says speed checking is for pussies is retarded idk about u buti dont wanan break my legs so speed check for sure
Aug 1 2004 8:52PM
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*rkp*
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no way man!! overshootings the way to go! ^
Aug 1 2004 8:55PM
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twix_182
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i watched my friends go off a table and get a little air, so i thought id start off higher, i did so and in an attempt of doing a 3, i supposedly did a cork 7 and was corked just as soon as my skis got off the snow(dont practice 360's on small jumps in ur backyard, stupid idea) and stayed that way, blacked out in mid air and landed on my head and got a mild concussion and got goggles jabbed into my face so i got stitches. this was with a helmet of course. right side of face missing pretty much all the skin ion the nice icy east coast ground. o yeah, cleared the table landing by 20 ft.
funniest part was i had no clue where i was or what i did for like 15 minutes or more, the man with the stretcher i heard was in a pissy mood, and before that when my friend went to get help from a liftie, he didnt speak english and just smiled and said yes. i also could not feel the pain in my face and the gash that moved whenever i talked. so it was like i had a second mouth, neat-0




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Aug 1 2004 9:15PM
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skiierman
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^ erm... second mouth? not really neat, cool mostly.



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To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
Aug 1 2004 9:20PM
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bigdoubler125805y
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i learned how to hit big doubles riding motox this way. i would have somebody go in front of me that i really trusted that had done the jump before and just go the exact same speed and follow them right off the jump. it's not as scary and it works great
Aug 1 2004 9:47PM
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delete2
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You guy sare idiots. Dont just go fast at it, take the time and be careful. Ive brooken 2 bones overshooting jumps. Haha. When your in the air and see the landing go past when your still 15 ft in that air has got to be the scariest feeling in the world.
Aug 1 2004 10:09PM
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scofield
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well thats because ya got big jugs



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Aug 1 2004 10:47PM
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skimack
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1. Watch another guy go off the jump and clear it.
2. Ask said skier if he waxes his skis. He will probably say never because he is a park rat.
3. Put your skis in his tracks and hit the jump exactly as said skier did and you will be money.

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Aug 2 2004 9:50PM
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Aug 2 2004 11:00PM
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hendrik.
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that was really fucking annoying ^
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Aug 2 2004 11:04PM
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skiierman
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why do faggots feel the need to make everything harder to read for people who are strait?



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To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
Aug 2 2004 11:15PM
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1080ski
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get somebdoy that has been off the jump before and let them go beside you, then turn off so you get a good speed
Aug 3 2004 1:03PM
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mattwalker
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yea ^ the best thing is to just follow somebody off the jump who has already been off it, thats what i did at spring jam on a 70 footer...


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Aug 3 2004 4:08PM
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TheWorst
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you dont..... you just go for it man
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Aug 3 2004 6:28PM
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twix_182
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^thats the american way right there. thats my way




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Aug 3 2004 6:38PM
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chugLIFE
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HAUL ASS!!!
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Aug 3 2004 7:08PM
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mckeeman
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FSI...Fuckin Send It...


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Aug 3 2004 9:39PM
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P-JO
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first, delete huck1080's post so I can read this.




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Aug 3 2004 9:41PM
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ECfreeski3
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ok enough posts proving how tough we are. i still wanna know how they guinea pigged the 120 foot gap at superpark 5. and how zurinskas decided the speed when he guinea'ed chads.
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Aug 3 2004 9:42PM
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skimack
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^those jumps are very precisely built by guys who know what they are doing. The groomers know roughly where you need to start to clear it and the pro athletes who hit those jumps know how to judge snow conditions and how to pump the transition to either slow down or speed up at the last second depending on how it feels. At superpark, the jump usually has a landing to the side, kinda like a hip jump so people start slow and go faster landing on the hip until they can gap it. At chads, the first few hours are usually spent crashing on either over or undershoots. On a day of filming they will usually only get two or three good hits per person.

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Jeff: Hey Geoff, did Ronny tell you not to wear any boxers so he could rape you better?
Geoff: No, I just put my boxers on backwards so the hole is in the back...it's alot easier that way.

'I'm in his nigger crew' (my little brother in response to my statement that he was in my 'digger crew')

'My knee hurts' (Jeff Merat after grinding a lunch table for an hour instead of sitting in the ski patrol shack for his torm mcl and acl which he got earlier that day.)

'I'm not asking for any help, just maybe for you to get off your ass.'(my dad)
Aug 3 2004 11:47PM
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