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Cop kills 15 year old, charges friend with the murder

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Bob_Loblaw
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/brandon-ross-charged-with_n_868289.html

A 16-year-old boy has been charged with murder after a Chicago police officer fatally shot his 15-year-old friend Wednesday on the South Side.

Brandon Ross and his friend Tatioun Williams allegedly robbed a man at gunpoint in the 7000 block of South Cregier Avenue Wednesday evening, and were confronted by police officers a short time later, the Chicago Tribune reports.

When the officers told the teens to stop, Williams, who was holding the gun, allegedly turned in the officer's direction, Fox Chicago reports. Fearing for her life, the officer shot the 15-year-old, killing him.

"They could have taken him to jail, they could have done anything but taken his life," Williams' mother told the Tribune Thursday.

Under state law, police can charge someone with murder when an accomplice is killed during the commission of a crime. Even though Ross didn't pull the trigger, he was charged as an adult with murder and armed robbery. He was ordered held on $900,000 bail Friday.

The teens allegedly took a wallet and iPod from a 27-year-old man before the shooting.

Jun 8 2011 4:15PM
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DaveM
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What an absurd law. His accomplice had absolutely no involvement nor did he intend to kill his partner. The max he should be getting is the armed robbery charges. Fucking ridiculous justice system, so frustrating.
Jun 8 2011 9:04PM
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Skierguy1234
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wait here's an idea, DONT FUCKING ROB SOMEONE AT GUN POINT
Jun 8 2011 9:11PM
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forum10
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it's just a LAW you FUCKING MORON. he doesn't have to be SENTENCED to what he's CHARGED with.
Jun 8 2011 9:11PM
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jblaski
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karma's a bitch.
Jun 8 2011 9:38PM
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BIGben*
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This makes me lose faith in humanity.
Jun 8 2011 9:38PM
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hot.pocket
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Fearing for her life

Well there's your problem.
Jun 8 2011 9:47PM
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Petersaurusrex
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I can't say that kid didn't deserve to be shot for turning on a police officer with a loaded gun... But charging the other person with the murder? That makes no fucking sense at all. There's no logic.
Jun 8 2011 9:51PM
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MrPantyDropper
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"When the officers told the teens to stop, Williams, who was holding the gun, allegedly turned in the officer's direction,Fox Chicago reports. Fearing for her life, the officer shot the 15-year-old, killing him."

Never pointed the gun at her. If your walking down the street and someone tells you to stop, you're going to turn around. It seems as if the cop didnt know how to handle the situation and got nervous. That kind of shit happens in the hood multiple times a day..pretty routine crime in any rough part of town. That wouldnt count as self defense for any citizen. I dont see why it is for her.
Jun 8 2011 10:03PM
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forum10
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oh yeah? you'd know from personal experience, huh?
Jun 8 2011 10:25PM
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Broseph_Stalin
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no offense but you cant just go around with a gun

you gon get shot
Jun 8 2011 10:32PM
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TaranItUp
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Ok so let me get this straight, one kid pulled a gun on a cop so the cop shot him while his friend was just standing there. Then the cop charged the kid who was just standing there with murder. Thats fucked up.
Jun 8 2011 11:08PM
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Chilly.
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You dont fuck with girl cops...they shoot first and talk second
Jun 8 2011 11:10PM
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egg.
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classic
Jun 8 2011 11:11PM
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585.
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honestly fuck that. thats so fucked up. i hope the thought that the cop killed a fucking 15 year old stays with them for the rest of their lives.
Jun 8 2011 11:52PM
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jonny828
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you post some really dumb shit on this website you know that?
Jun 9 2011 12:11AM
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Dr.NS
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How bout don't rob people with a gun and expect anything nice to happen to yourself
Jun 9 2011 12:17AM
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.AR6rider
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that kid should be charged with his own murder. i cant believe anyone has sympathy for this fucking kid he committed an armed robbery and got capped for pulling a gun on a cop. as morbid as it seems this kid got what was coming to him
Jun 9 2011 12:25AM
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.AR6rider
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that kid should be charged with his own murder. i cant believe anyone has sympathy for this fucking kid he committed an armed robbery and got capped for pulling a gun on a cop. as morbid as it seems this kid got what was coming to him
Jun 9 2011 12:26AM
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Mr.Turtle
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fuck the police coming straight from the underground
Jun 9 2011 12:27AM
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MrPantyDropper
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i am speaking from personal experience...
Jun 9 2011 3:07PM
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neutralzombie
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i love the world
Jun 9 2011 3:08PM
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gyarados
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just goes to show that women shouldn't be cops
Jun 9 2011 3:55PM
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Beez
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cops just want ATHORATAY!
Jun 9 2011 4:00PM
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forum10
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haha, yeah? the mean streets of boulder?
Jun 9 2011 4:53PM
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Cthulhu
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that's really fucked up, sure a bat is lethal at close range but from a running distance not at all. could they have not just maced/tasered the kid instead?
Jun 9 2011 5:10PM
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MrPantyDropper
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you might as well stop..you really are just a moron.

you dont know the first thing about me, but you pass judgement on my life?

1. i dont live in boulder, never have
2. i grew up in schenectady, new york
3. ive been robbed at gunpoint twice, been gunbutted twice, and lived in the hood
4. at 16 i went to jail, just like this kid is about to

so ive experienced all this shit...
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Jun 9 2011 5:32PM
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forum10
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hahaha, YOU ARE SO FUCKING HARD! are you kidding me? i live in SLC right now and some kids have that shit happen to them all the time. it's not "the streets", it's them being complete dumb asses. oh and claiming schenectady, NY as home isn't helping bud, haha. claiming boulder would have made you sound more legit you dumb ass kid.

one more thing, going to jail isn't a big deal. i went to jail at 17 and 18 AND 23! i must be from the STREETZ DAWG!
Jun 9 2011 5:47PM
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MrPantyDropper
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lol im done with you


Jun 9 2011 5:57PM
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forum10
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you're as hard as wakeboarders in tall tees.
Jun 9 2011 6:01PM
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TechnoPotamus
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You're a fucking idiot. You provoked him and gave him shit until he told you what he was talking about and then you're going to give him a hard time over it?

Grow up. You went to jail 3 times...wow man you should be real proud of that. You're a douchebag.
Jun 9 2011 6:02PM
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forum10
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you two are just being major pussies. "omg i went to jail!" big fucking deal. and the reasons i went to jail were for very awesome and entertaining reasons that didn't harm anyone but myself.
Jun 9 2011 6:11PM
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DaveM
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I know its a law there bud, I was just stating it was absurd. Don't get your knickers in a knot. And I fully realize that someone is innocent until "SENTENCED" with something but I was simply stating that he shouldn't be charged for that in the first place.
Jun 9 2011 6:20PM
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alex.bgk.
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why are so many people defending a violent criminal?
Jun 9 2011 6:30PM
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JustDidIt
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Anyone defending the violent criminal is probably doing so because he was a minor and the story doesn't say he actually started to point his gun at the cop. Nonetheless, the bigger issue is whether the kid who wasn't armed and didn't display any violence should be charged as an adult with murder.
Jun 9 2011 6:34PM
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forum10
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you can be charged 30,000 dollars for littering in maryland...

most laws are written with extreme max. penalties. you're getting pissed off over nothing.
Jun 9 2011 6:39PM
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AWALLRUS.
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more flaws in the legal system
Jun 9 2011 6:57PM
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alex.bgk.
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you may not be aware, but robbery is violent crime, which they both committed. its right on up there with rape/murder. the kid who's getting screwed by the additional charges is in fact a violent criminal according to this story. so why get so worked up about a law that only affects seriously terrible people
Jun 9 2011 8:37PM
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snowbombz
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seattle police are fucked up as well.
Jun 9 2011 8:40PM
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Bob_Loblaw
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You care about your possessions WAY too much if you equate robbery with rape and murder.
Jun 9 2011 8:43PM
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GayWolf420
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Damn. 3 times? That obviously didn't do much to knock some sense and smarts into you, huh?
Jun 9 2011 8:52PM
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Snowgoner
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i'm just gonna jump in here and say that schenectady, ny is sketchy as fuck.
Jun 9 2011 8:57PM
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Pow.yuHdig*
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fuck the kid he was a little street rat
Jun 9 2011 9:35PM
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Obi-Wan-Jenobi
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Maybe if the kid getting charged was at home playing xbox or reviewing some math instead of taking part in armed robbery he would'nt be in this situation.
Jun 9 2011 10:07PM
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forum10
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didn't need any sense. i was well aware of what i was doing.
Jun 9 2011 10:30PM
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KRASHED
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Your the cross section of society that I wouldn't mind seeing tied to an iceberg and towed to the middle of the ocean.
Jun 9 2011 10:33PM
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84891jnf92048
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Over a fuckin iPod and wallet....


now rant time:

FIrst of all, this is why guns for any other use than hunting should be out-fucking-lawed. The kid is holding a gun, and does nothing but turns his shoulders, and the cop is instantly afraid for their fucking life. A kid turns around and faces a cop when neither of them has a gun, and the kid cant do anything from long range, and the cop can taze the shit out of him. Instead, she is afraid for her life because the kid has a gun in his hand, whether or not it was pointing anywhere near her, and she shoots and kills him.

Rant part 2:

COPS SHOULD KNOW HOW TO NOT SHOOT A KID IN THE FUCKING CHEST. First of all, no shots should have been fired from the police. The kid, from what the story says, did not raise the gun, or make any motion to threaten or harm the officer. And if he did, shoot the kid in the fucking thigh, or kneecap or some non-fatal shit. Not the fucking head or chest. Cops have to learn to aim a weapon better than any of us know how to; there is no reason that they should kill a 15 year old, when they know that they are shot to stop the offender, and save their self, not to kill.

Rant part 3:

How the fuck is this murder on his friends part? That is a fucked up fucking law, made to fuck over fucking kids who fucked up a little bit, and ended up in the death of their fucking friend, and will now get fucked over by a judge and jury of fucked up fuck fucks who fucking think that it was the friends fucking fault. The cop shot the gun, the kid held a different gun, and as far as a murder goes, the kid was an innocent bystander.
I am not usually the type to say "fuck the police", but this is a perfect example of absolute overpower in the police force, and corruption. A cop could kill whoever the fucking want, and as long as there is somebody else around that was involved in the crime, the cop will never face any punishment, and some kid who would never do anything to harm his poor friend will go to fucking jail for supposedly killing him. FUCK THAT SHIT.



tl;dr: 1) Guns need to go, 2) shoot him in the fucking leg, and 3) fuck that law.
Jun 9 2011 11:02PM
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soulskier
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that is an incredible statement
Jun 10 2011 2:12AM
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SERENGETI_YETI
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Honestly wasn't there. But depending on circumstances you have to shoot sometimes. Not saying there it might not have been avoidable. I mean cops are super trigger happy with tazers, guns, and anything exciting, but still sometimes you need to shoot.



As far as the murder charge, that's fucking retarded. You ever made that law should be kicked in the balls(or snatch)
Jun 10 2011 2:51AM
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alex.bgk.
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its not the theft that puts it into the same category as rape or murder. its the fact that its through force or fear
Jun 10 2011 3:37AM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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lol america you are full of surprises
Jun 10 2011 3:41AM
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