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First Drop or Saga?

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D.Mac
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Just curious on what you guys think which outerwear is better in qaulity, First Drop or Saga?

Jun 5 2011 10:50AM
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corona
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First Saga. but they're still too underground for you to know about them.
Jun 5 2011 10:53AM
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frogz
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definitely Saga. i've seen those soggy sleeping bags they call First Drop. it looks like saga gets better quality every year.
Jun 5 2011 11:01AM
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[evan]
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Well I think it differs between product. Everyone is saying Saga is more durable, but I have both a First Drop and Saga hoodie, and overall the First Drop has been much more durable. The metal piece that holds the Saga drawstring into the hood ripped out of the hood liner. There also are one or two small holes. The First Drop however has remained intact, with the exception of a few small puffs of yarn on the hobo cuffs. I ordered my Saga a size too big and it's a bit wide around the bottom, but it still looks good.

Hope I helped.
Jun 5 2011 11:09AM
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Afeld
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I'd say neither. There are better companies than those two. That said, Saga
Jun 5 2011 11:14AM
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THUGwife
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saga
Jun 5 2011 11:24AM
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drumbumocdp
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I think hes talking about outerwear for winter.
From what ive seen, first drop tears easy and gets heavy with water very easily. my saga pants kept we warm and dry everyday on the mountain. Im kinda bias because i dont own FD but the quality you get from saga is the best for the price i think.
Jun 5 2011 11:58AM
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[evan]
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Yeah I've seen this with First Drop outerwear as well, I can't really say much though because I've never owned Saga or First Drop outerwear.
Jun 5 2011 12:11PM
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adamlukowski
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do you want this to happen to you?

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Jun 5 2011 12:24PM
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egg.
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seriously neither
Jun 5 2011 12:30PM
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PON3
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I don't own either, but I have heard that FD is just slightly under SAGA. I wouldn't own either because my $50 snow pants and $150 vans jacket holds up super good.

But if your willing to pay the money I would go with SAGA.
Jun 5 2011 12:36PM
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cheener12
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Saga costs more but it is better material
Jun 5 2011 12:45PM
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ReignMan
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hoodies or outerwear. and saga is pretty great imo
Jun 5 2011 12:48PM
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GBS
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Iv'e had FD jacket and pants this season, and i haven't had any problem with them. They are suuuper warm and comfy. I choosed FD because it looked so sick. I think FD looks better than Saga...
Jun 5 2011 1:00PM
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Funnel
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Don't go First Drop. I had issues with the first year hoddie, everyone I know that owns it has had major issues with gloves, outerwear, and hoodies. The two Saga suits I have are excellent. I have no complaints about Saga and it's a shell, which is awesome because it's not too cold in CA, but I will need to layer occasionally.
Jun 5 2011 1:19PM
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HeadyTopper
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saga, my pants are the best ones i've ever owned
Jun 5 2011 1:32PM
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Pool.
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Ive owned both (yes trendwhore i know) and i have to say, first drop although it may get terrible reviews from everyone on this website is not as bad as people say. all these problems people have with their FD ripping, i have had no tears or even nicks in my FD other than from my ski edge slicing the bottom of my pants.

The one issue most people have on lock is that Fd is not the most waterproof outerwear u can get, the suit saturates(for people who dont know wut that means to fill completely with something that permeates or pervades) with water pretty quickly, although the inside of the suit never got wet even when i went skiing in the rain.

The thing i love about the suit is that it is incredably warm so there is little to no need to layer under (this is only good if you own another jacket or are willing to not wear it on hot days

Now to Saga, i only own saga pants but the quality overall seems better than my FD, the fabric they used seems much more durable and is (although i havnt skied wearin them in the rain) has kept the water out much better than my Fd pants.

The only complaint i have about my saga pants is the fact that they are not as baggy as the Fd, the saga pants seem to get skinnier at the knee than my fd, but the fd pants are gigantic so that may be the main difference

sparknotes: Fd=warm/gets wet on outside, has been durable for me Saga= shell(not warm) much more waterproof, has been as durable as my Fd
Jun 5 2011 2:28PM
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Crispy.
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I hate my Fd. SO i would have to say saga.
Jun 5 2011 5:44PM
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Shredability
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yea heard nothing but good things about saga and have hear some less then pleased people talking about fd
Jun 5 2011 6:22PM
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Kangbang
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Wrong.

FD is horse shit compared to Saga.

Your statement is like comparing a cheap hooker to a nice classy girl.
Jun 5 2011 6:25PM
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monkatizer
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neither, you trendwhore! why dont you try to get some quailty shit thats not played 10x over?
Jun 5 2011 7:08PM
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alvy.
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Personally, I am more of a fan of north face, orage, and oakley outerwear. That being said, I would choose Saga over First Drop. You get more out of what you're paying for.
Jun 5 2011 7:14PM
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*double-u_te_ef*
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i like fd pants more, but fd is very unprofessional, like i ordered a XL blue and black jacket, i got it found out its too big, and then had to fight for 2 months to return them, but it is a family owned buisness
and personally i've never ordered from saga but very nice detail and the syrup jacket looks nice too
first drop red and black pants are my personal favorite though
Jun 5 2011 8:19PM
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585.
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if i had a fucking dollar for every time this thread was created...
Jun 5 2011 10:43PM
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Virtika
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Hey guys, thanks for all the responses. Just to throw out a few things...

Concerning our past gear, we have only gotten positive responses from people that have bought our gear. Yes, it's very warm- it's insulated, not just a shell), and yes it's 100% (20,000 mm) waterproof meaning you can ski in the rain and the fabric may become wet, but you never will.

We are a very new company, and have been greatly improving our gear with each production run that we do. We continuously strive to make our gear the best available. After spending almost a month visiting countless factories overseas, we are now switching to a new factory for this coming season, and we think our new stuff will be some of the dopest gear on the planet.

We also have a great warranty policy- if your gear falls apart because of something that isn't your fault then send it in and we'll pay to have it professionally fixed and Fedexed back to you.

Thanks for the support,



Jun 6 2011 2:55AM
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Kangbang
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Must of not read or must of deleted all the posts/emails about how bad your gear is then.
Jun 6 2011 3:01AM
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maxbee
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I've had zero problems with my fd jacket. I dont know about saga(cause I've never owned it) but I really like my first drop.
Jun 6 2011 8:42PM
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AdmiralSnackbar
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Just throwing this out there, what sorta pills have you been taking while browsing NS recently?
Jun 6 2011 9:32PM
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BuSkiz
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Saga, quality shit right thur
Jun 6 2011 10:03PM
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Chaunceyskis
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Drama drama drama. I'm stoked On my first drop but if u like saga more that's sick too. Make your own decisions . Peace
Jun 10 2011 12:57AM
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bt@509
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Saga for sure. But I miss my old saga. That stuff was freaking TITS. I could snag on anything and rip tree branches off. This new stuff isn't as waterproof as I was hoping for. And it's so thin that I worry it'll rip. But it held up really good last season. So I'm happy.
Jun 10 2011 1:08AM
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skinator
Posts: 182 - Karma: 114
i can recommend you the new FASC Outerwear Stuff,
looks nice
http://www.file-upload.net/download-3472332/FASC_workbook.pdf.html


Jun 10 2011 6:29AM
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cwillygood
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i like them both, i have 2 fd hoodies and they both have held up real nice, not problems, i have a saga vest too and it has great material and is built/ made really really well


BUT the outerwear for fd seems to have some problems, but there still a very new company so maybe theyll change things up this year.

Sagas's outerwear is solid, iv only heard a couple of bad things about it, other than the shape out the pants and jackets i love them

but i personally think going with either one would be fine
Jun 10 2011 8:48AM
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TaySwift
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i have to say, own(ed) both saga and FD suits,

saga:
saga has been around for almost 7 years
their quality has improved with every season
they fucked the fuck out of there outerwear shipping this season
they pay attention to details
tall jackets




Fd:
first drop has been around for 2 years
fd quality is a alright
my fd pants had numerous rips in the seams in my inside parts of my pants
great shipping an price, excluding the $50 customs fee to canada
they do not pay attention to details, ( sewing was awful, i could see many factory mistakes in my jacket)
wide/tall jackets
pants have suspenders




in both cases i loved my gear, but saga has had more experience with making outerwear, even 2009/2010 jackets weren't that good in quality for saga. but now they have great shit dropping.
FD as been around for 2 years, they make alright quality that could easily be improved, as they said above, they got a new supplier, so i am happy to see what their gear looks like next year, buy their shit before you stop cusing them, and truth is fd is warmer then saga
Jun 10 2011 10:20AM
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C.Hermann
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hahahahaaha
Jun 15 2011 4:05PM
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