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Got arrested for possession of marijuana

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Park_Ranger
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title says it all.

has anyone else gone through this process, and if so what can I expect? How long will I be on probation for, and how much money will i have to pay in fines/court costs/etc.

I am moving to a different town in the fall for school. How will this affect my probation?

-Thanks
May 28 2011 4:40PM
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95959
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Sure they can, but clearly he actually did smell it because it was there.
How does that not seem right to you?
You kids are listening to too much of that Woo Teng Klan these day's. Show some respect.
May 29 2011 5:55PM
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bermbuster49
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RULE #1: when you have weed or a piece in your car, drive like your taking your drivers license test.

I never speed, i always come to a complete stop, and i've always got an eye out for the police. When you think about it, getting busted for driving with it is like the only way you will ever get caught (where else do you come into contact with a cop???). So smarten up, take it as a lesson, good luck with everything.
May 29 2011 5:56PM
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skitheWest.
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ahahhaha this.
May 29 2011 6:21PM
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doobiebrotha
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shit happens to the best of us, just got to learn from your mistakes.


also, say as little as possible to the cops, NEVER ADMIT TO ANYTHING....
May 29 2011 7:00PM
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highindasky55
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How about unconstitutional laws that are on the books creating no benefit to society and existing only to criminalize the common person and create revenue for the state by picking the pockets of the people? Upheld by school bullies-turned-cops that think they're the shit because they have a badge and a gun, and don't question the validity of the laws they're blindly enforcing? People make me laugh... "show some respect"... fuck that. I'll respect the law once it's refined to the point that the goal is to offer all reasonable protections to citizens WITHOUT infringing on my constitutional/human RIGHT to smoke whatever plant I damn well please... along with all the other rights we've let slowly dissolve to live in a "safe" (aka sheltered and confused) society. Just because it's a law, doesn't mean it should be...
May 29 2011 7:09PM
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bermbuster49
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damn sonnnn, killed it!! couldnt have said that better
May 29 2011 7:27PM
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95959
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Classic
May 29 2011 7:38PM
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ButteredToast.
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Holy shit. That was so well put. Thank you.
May 29 2011 8:24PM
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Obi-Wan-Jenobi
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Uh no. He was pissed he got arrested for doing something he should have been arrested for. Maybe after some jail time he'll figure it out that drugs are bad news and mature up a bit.
May 29 2011 8:57PM
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BIGben*
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Canada?
May 29 2011 8:59PM
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HalfandHalf
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not.
cop obviously knew and had reason to search the vehicle. cops get pissed if you lie to them and they wont cut you a break if you try and do so.
it was just unlucky that the cop was an ass
May 29 2011 8:59PM
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Blindsurfer
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im so happy to be canadian
May 29 2011 9:03PM
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highindasky55
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Thanks for the well thought-out response, it really added to the value of the conversation.
May 29 2011 9:06PM
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highindasky55
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If everyone smoked weed, we would all be too busy loving one another and creating a better world for all through incredible feats of human innovation to EVER need to deal with modern conflict. How much of a "civil"ization do we really have when we justify violence and tyranny with imaginary friends and enemies (religion and terrorists for the slower folks)? Drugs are a tool for social and spiritual development and nothing more, certain drugs are obviously too dangerous to be useful while others like weed are harmless and shouldn't be illegal. Period.
May 29 2011 9:14PM
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Rossberger
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Drugs can only take you so far. There's no way weed can solve international problems (terrorism, religious wars). Even if it's legalized here, doesn't mean it will be legalized cross waters, and even if it does people still have a choice whether they want to use it. And not to mention some problems it could cause, imagine the drug war in America scaled worldwide. And how could we progress as a society/nation if everyone is so counterproductive? I'm not against drugs but I just don't agree with your points.
May 29 2011 9:29PM
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GayWolf420
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oh look another weed thread.
May 29 2011 9:30PM
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highindasky55
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Maybe I didn't make that point right... not trying to say that weed is an instant cure for all the worlds problems but I'm saying it will help us get there. The drug war only exists because weed is prohibited, if there was no profit because of legal pot there would be no drug cartels, so the solution is worldwide acceptance. Saying weed makes you counterproductive is just plain wrong, plenty of important work gets done by some very stoned people... it will amplify the laziness of people who were already that way though. Legalization is one step out of several thousand we need to take as the human race to make these international problems seem childish, when compared to how we COULD be living
May 29 2011 9:52PM
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huge-go
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Seriously, the drug war is just a distraction from other far larger problems that we have.
May 29 2011 10:01PM
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Rossberger
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Weed production will still cause problems throughout the world. Since you said we need drugs to really make a big step then how long until intervention between countries occurs?(I know this is a bit of an extreme example but still..). And in your idea, everyone uses drugs, so let's assume every country produces and plants their own; I think the child & slave labor rates will sky rocket. Just look at the Ivory Coast, slave labor for just cocoa... Regarding your statement, "if there was no profit because of legal pot", there's always going to be a profit for someone and if this becomes legal within America can you imagine the taxes on it? I doubt it would discourage people from buying it but it will surely disallow the lower class from buying it as often as they'd wish. And that's where your drug utopia would come to an end. I do apologize for the over thinking but honestly someone needs to be a realist here.
May 29 2011 10:15PM
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j.engel
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not cool
May 29 2011 10:20PM
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AGOF
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legal weed with tons of taxes is probably gonna be cheaper than illegal weed. thats the problem with prohibition

May 29 2011 10:25PM
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Rossberger
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Meh, who knows? I can only imagine it being a little less or the same price as medical marijuana.
May 29 2011 10:30PM
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DGski
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you should've said you have glaucoma.. profit?
May 29 2011 11:54PM
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highindasky55
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It's called weed because it's a weed... people could grow their own? It's not very hard to do. You're way over-thinking this because you're trying to reason legalized weed into the system we have today, which is FUBAR anyways. We're a generation that's going to be tested thoroughly because we're at a transitionary period where our old institutions are failing, and our belief systems and artificial seperationism have led us to a point of no return. Either the world can erupt into chaos as we cling to a dying way of life assuming we can one day return, or we can unite as the people of the world against the corruption, greed and hatred that has gotten us to this point and overthrow the outdated systems holding us back. I see complete legalization as a baby step towards changing the face of the world as we know it for the better, meaning problems like taxation are irrelevant

May 30 2011 12:13AM
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Bodhisattva_
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But if they really do smell dope, and they need more proff but teh dude hid it under the seat, what are they supposed to do?
And to the OP that blows dude. 2/2.5 grams in WA they usually don't even arrest.
May 30 2011 12:22AM
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Rossberger
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Jesus your logic is absurd; weed can cure all imperfections among humans leaving humanity with a good impression. The peoples' attitude may change as a result from legalization, but the system won't. Anyway, I can grow my own apple tree, but I'd rather just buy a couple of apples which are superior quality at my local market. The same thing can happen and would happen with weed. With the legalization, some people will realize they can discontinue planting their shitty pot and buy some higher quality, decent pot. Also, how would you plant if it's winter and you live above the equator? Don't plants need sunlight (Unless you want to pay for artificial sunlight)? Anyway, enough with that tangent. You speak like a lost cause stuck listening to videos about how the government is "bad".

"Either the world can erupt into chaos as we cling to a dying way of life assuming we can one day return, or we can unite as the people of the world against the corruption, greed and hatred that has gotten us to this point and overthrow the outdated systems holding us back."

Now tell me this, is the modern, non legalization of weed, world we live in causing chaos that would cause an international revolution? No. You're speaking too extreme. I do admit there's plenty of chaos now, but there's always been, history's been set on repeat for the past thousands of years; and there's no stopping it. And taxation does in fact matter.

"or we can unite as the people of the world against the corruption, greed"

The high taxes and even pricing on it will just continue the government's profit and "greed". I do agree with your point on the government being corrupt, but only to a certain point, your gloomy responses make Wayne Brady look like an optimistic guy.
May 30 2011 12:43AM
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Bodhisattva_
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May 30 2011 12:45AM
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highindasky55
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How ironically ignorant of you, thanks for the laugh at your expense
May 30 2011 12:49AM
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Bodhisattva_
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You realize your incessant campaigning on legalizing weed and overthrowing the government as we know it and change the world isn't going to accomplish anything. Go do something useful.
May 30 2011 12:53AM
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Rossberger
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Exactly this. I've found people who despise every single thing the government does often don't know anything about the government. I've also found those same people to believe that the Illuminati is behind everything and they even strongly believe they use Disney as a way to communicate their messages. Inb4 shitstorm on Illuminati.
May 30 2011 12:57AM
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JIBpsy^^
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COMMUNIST......... JK i just browsed that and saw "We can unite as the people of the world against corruption" but seriously that could be straight outta the Communist manifesto 
May 30 2011 1:17AM
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highindasky55
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This is a thread about being arrested for possession, so I have every right to talk about how ridiculous the law is in the first place. I can even back it with pages of facts... but I'm sure you have more important things to do than read up on current issues and do a little research, like trolling around forums.

Governments all around the world are overthrowing themselves through repression of their citizens at home and trigger-happy foreign policy, the people are the majority and they're fed the fuck up. If you can't understand that human institutions have evolved hundreds of times over thousands of years, and see that we're at a point where ours no longer serves the best interests of the majority... then I don't even want to waste more time talking with you.

I'm not campaigning for anything, just bringing what seemed like a relevant issue to the table for discussion. But people like you tend to stifle intelligent debate with childish nonsense too quickly to make any real progress on forums like these... the fact that I try still confuses me. I'll accomplish more this week than you will this year, so don't tell me what's useful because mocking facts with stupid pictures sure isn't... it's pitiful. I've done thousands of hours of research over several years to stay ahead of the curve of this revolution, and it's coming faster than anyone realizes. Take it or leave it, I couldn't care less what you think... denial won't stop what's coming
May 30 2011 1:28AM
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Rossberger
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May I ask, what exactly is coming? If you're talking about weed becoming legal then it shouldn't really matter for our generation so I don't see why you're worried. You said this yourself about how legalizing is only a baby step in correcting humanity; so actually it'll take hundreds of years for society to correct itself. Here's some wise words, humanity can only progress as a whole and in no way is some drug that became big in the last 50 years going to be able to unify a world. When I put it into that context of how a plant will unify a world, do you realize how irrational it sounds?
May 30 2011 2:01AM
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colleenator
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noob. jk ahah but srsly the cop can search you based on search and seizure without a warrant. i think they need about 5 reasons to search you and you lucked out. dont drive high man.

May 30 2011 9:58AM
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justinstlaurent
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this, along with numerous other reasons
May 30 2011 10:23AM
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DirtyDan
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Not to hreadjack, but my parents just found my stash. They say they're going to talk about it later today. Any tips. They aren't super strict but they're far from chill.
May 30 2011 11:00AM
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bermbuster49
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Dude lets not compare weed to apples...i know if it was legal i'd grow some and buy some. I'd have an indoor grow with some dank herb and just chill on that fooooo FREEEE, if i want some crazy medicinal stuff i'd buy it from 7/11 (haha)

but just because you can buy apples at a store doesnt mean you dont want to grow your own. Explain why people brew their own beer?? i mean obviously that doesn't make sense becuase they can go down the street and get a 6 pack from the store
May 30 2011 11:51AM
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Dyar
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No.
May 30 2011 12:12PM
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highindasky55
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Right, that's not what I'm saying. The world is already quickly becoming more unified and people are starting to wake up to the underlying principle that, like you said, humanity is the sum of all it's parts and we all affect the outcome. I'm saying weed helps amplify that sentiment and at the same time it helps people open their minds up to new ways of thinking and seeing the world. You also said "big in the last 50 years" which is outright wrong... weed has been around and used for similar purposes for thousands of years, there are just more people alive who have more capacity to stay connected so it only SEEMS more prevalent

You say change will take hundreds of years, but the only changes that take so long are slow modification of existing systems. I'm not talking about that at all, I'm talking about the rapid dissolution of systems that aren't serving our best interests anymore... instead they serve the best interests of those with all of the money (example: Our tax dollars bailed out companies that have screwed us through bad and unsound mortgages etc. and yet they continue the same practices)

You said in your earlier post that my replies sound gloomy and that's not what I'm going for... but hearing that life can and will change so rapidly for everyone might have that effect. No, only positive change can come from all of humanity uniting against the systems holding us back. We may be the best-off that people have ever been, but the elephant in the room says that we could be 50 times more advanced if technology like tesla's and ford's had not been bought/stolen and repressed for the good of the almighty dollar. Start questioning everything around you, you will see what I mean
May 30 2011 12:24PM
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Rossberger
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You failed to see the analogy and I even stated my reason for it. It was something along the lines of "The ones I would buy are more superior in quality". And I'm not weed growing specialist and we may need to get an arbitrator in here but can't you only grow california indica or whatever it's called in California? I'm sure temperatures and different humidity levels affect a plant's growth.

People brew their own beer because their either:
a. Underage
b. Dislike other beers
c. Just want to experiment with their own
d. More convenient for them.

You say you'd chill on that "foooooo FREE" but you still need to pay for marijuana seeds. The same applies to beer, you still need to pay for wheat, barley, whatever else is in it, and the brewing equipment. Anyway, thanks for miscomprehending* an analogy when I stated it's reason a sentence after.
May 30 2011 1:26PM
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Rossberger
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I do question many things around me mind you, but I'm not going to become an anarchist who literally questions everything the government does. And actually, you are saying a plant will unify the world but not directly. Which still sounds absurd. And you say once weed is legalized, then people will start opening your eyes. You're implying that everyone is going to be using it. With your logic, I can imply that every human being over 21 in America is violent and an alcoholic. But that's not true. Sine we can't compare humanity to another race that has weed legalized, we need to compare aspects of our race to other aspects, as in this situation I compared the hypothetical use of alcohol to the hypothetical everyday use of weed. Do you realize how much chaos would come out of taking over the system? Look at any revolution where the people took over the government/monarchs. They didn't turn out pretty at all and if anything it would put our economy and production rates into deeper shit. You're also implying a person would start questioning everything after using pot, but what if he doesn't, what if he starts realizing that a revolution is not only silly, but worse for him as well. Take the Russian revolution in 1917, my great grandpa realized that what was happening is actually worse for his situation. There was chaos and schools burned, but the real result he feared was communism taking over. Now let's apply this to modern day America. What happens if the new system brought in is more fucked up. How do you suggest fixing it anyway?
May 30 2011 1:48PM
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highindasky55
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How about the American Revolution? If we were actually living by the Constitution that came out of the minds of several brilliant men (several of whom smoked pot), we would be a lot better off. But aspects of British Imperialism slowly leaked their way into our government through laws, statutes and institutions, and we're basically back to square one at this point living under what I see as "debt slavery".

You have to understand that anarchist is a severe misjudgment on your part, I have some pretty Utopian ideals which are far from chaotic anarchy. There's no such thing as a perfect society, but there are far better alternatives to what we're stuck with today in this consumerist, materialistic and egotistical world.

To answer your last question would take hours, there are so many things on my mind that I may be coming off as a bit confused... when really I just need more time to fit all of the pieces together. But check out Jaques Fresco and "The Venus Project" for an example of how radically different life could be and how much better off it would make all of us.
May 30 2011 2:22PM
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Rossberger
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American rev was still chaotic, as I said. But the result was worth it so you're correct on that part. Listen, I didn't come in here to argue about correcting the system; I came here to argue that weed just wont make that big of an impact. Get back to me when you've gathered your ideas on how to have a better alternative to this system, I'm interested to what you'll have to say.
May 30 2011 2:44PM
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Park_Ranger
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I don't have time to go through and read all of the comments in this thread. I see that this thread is going towards policy, and I am fine with that. I love discussing policy, and the many aspects of this world that are not just. I have also noticed a fair amount of people calling me stupid and such. I feel the need to let everyone know that I am a college student, and I study political science with a minor in english; I am on the Dean's list at my university. I have been smoking marijuana for about four years now, so in no way am I inexperienced or naive. I just wanted to make that information public, so people would stop judging me in this thread.

To everyone who is sharing kind words of support, I thank you, and only ask that you fight social injustice as best as you can.

-Thanks NS
May 30 2011 3:49PM
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ImNotARacist
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To clear some things. I wasn't necesarily speaking specifically about that kids event, so sorry for the confusion.

I had a friend that had an asshole cop pull him over and the first thing he said is "I smell dope on you" On any given day the cop would have been right, but there actually was NO weed, at all, in the car anywhere. By saying that he smelt it, he was granted the right by law to get a drug dog and search his whole car, which they proceeded to do and the cops treated all of their items like shit.

It just seems there needs to be a more established law to protect our constitutional right against search and seizure.



As far as the kid who called me a wu tang child or watever, I suggest you come up with much better ways to argue against my point. It makes you sound extremely ignorant.
May 30 2011 4:49PM
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ImNotARacist
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The problem with your analogy is time frame.

How long does it take for an apple tree (from seed form) to grow and produce fruit?


How long does it take a marijuana plant produce buds?


Im unsure about the latter (probably a few years) but I could have a 1/2 oz in a few months


SO yeah the reason people don't grow apple trees is because

A. you need a large area
B. it takes so long to produce fruit


SO you have held a decent argument throughout this thread but you analogy is pretty much retarded.
May 30 2011 4:59PM
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ImNotARacist
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Both of you are talking to far into the extremes. There is a median in every issue, its called compromise and it was how government was invented.

You also need to speak in terms of culture, not race. Culture has a much much larger influence on a person than race.

By saying everyone is going to open there eyes once marijuana is legal is most definitely not implying they will be smoking it. 70 year of prohibition has literally made people blind to the actual facts that reside behind marijuana's evil image.

once again your speaking in extremes. When you say we need to take action against government regulation that doesn't mean we have to overthrow the government. There are steps that need to be taken to do such a thing. We elect senators and house representative to do these things for us, unfortunately it has turned into a popularity contest rather than serving the people, now im not saying all, but from what I see it is a problem.

Same goes with cops, they are to enforce laws in effort to "Serve" and "protect" the people.

Every encounter I have had with police, which is more than average, It has been more of a "screw" and "collect" type of attitude.
May 30 2011 5:08PM
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Deezy
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>getting caught means your stupid
>means your stupid
>your stupid
>your

lol
May 30 2011 5:12PM
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ImNotARacist
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Say no
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