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WHY YOU SHOULD SUPPORT OUR MILITARY

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bobby.brown
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this is a good video to start of the discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAJeZaFdbJA&feature=fvst

its marc faber, a billionare hedge fund manager, who really knows his stuff.

He basically believes that most governments in the world will end up defaulting eventually.

I think many will, such as the P.I.I.G.S.  (portugal, ireland, italy, greece, spain...  but I have a hard time thinking that all economies will default.

The point i wanted to make is that when economies do fail and the world goes to war, AMERICA is where you want to be. Our military can take on the rest of the world combined. So even if you are not proud of that, you fucking better well be thankful for it.

Part of what the first 2 world wars were about were because technology was reaching the point where because of nuclear weapons and jet aircraft, icbms, it became very feasable for the world to be under control by 1 country forever. Hitler probly realized that, and many think that the united states entered the war because they knew that too.

but anyways, i think the reason the us dollar has not completely collapsed under the printing press is because the united states military  is 10 times as capable as the rest of the world combined. So yeah, bring it kim jong, bring it china, bring it russia,   we will fuck you up if you ask us to pay you back.

May 28 2011 12:49AM
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Gstrong
Posts: 4776 - Karma: 519
Hey Bobby brown you should stop being fucking lame and bringing stupid shit into our sport and try and be creative.


May 29 2011 4:30AM
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HangThePope
Posts: 749 - Karma: 19
our "troops" are a bunch of drop out nuggas, shot guns at arabs. same shit as vietnam, torture the native arabs. fuck the infidels, viva osama
May 29 2011 4:33AM
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hoodratz47
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fuck you asshole.
May 29 2011 5:11AM
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shocker611
Posts: 2599 - Karma: 423
what he ^ said, fuck you man. I really dont give two shits if its a way out for some people, for others they simply want to serve their country. you need to get your ass beat kid, you dont know shit
May 29 2011 11:44AM
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KillaSeason
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his name is hang the pope... he's obviously an ass hole. don't let him piss you off man
May 29 2011 12:00PM
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shocker611
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you would be surprised how many people feel that way though
May 29 2011 12:19PM
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PurpleDino
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The military does not serve the country. It serves the government.
May 29 2011 1:06PM
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californiagrown
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skiers dont control their skis. their boots control the skis.
May 29 2011 1:10PM
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shocker611
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DIRECTLY, yes.. the government represents US, WE elect our REPRESENTATIVES, PRESIDENTS, ETC.. how bout this, I say we do away with the government we established and everyone simply votes on all of the decissions. Are you really going to read the thousands of pages that are necessary in order to make educated decisions on the problems that we face? Of course not. Therefore we elect representatives that will do just that, and will make educated decisions for the American people, and in that control the armed forces. You really need to get educated and think about shit. Im pretty sure I must just be getting trolled here
May 29 2011 2:06PM
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Obi-Wan-Jenobi
Posts: 951 - Karma: 119
Canada is a million times better than the states. I like America but i Love Canada. We can go anywhere in the world with the maple leaf sewn on our back packs. People all over the world hate Americans. BUT almost everyone likes Canadians. and terrible health care is better than no healthcare. Our economy is still intact. And our leader was born in our country.
May 29 2011 2:39PM
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PurpleDino
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Our elected officials don't even read through the thousands of pages necessary to make educated decisions.  How many elected officials do you think actually read through the whole Patriot Act before they voted it back in? Getting educated and thinking involves questing your authority.  It doesn't seem like you understand the amount of brainwashing put into our elections.  If you don't have money, you won't make it as a candidate.  If you think for yourself and do not associate with a party, you will not make it.  Do you actually think the majority of Americans want to go start wars with other countries?
May 29 2011 8:00PM
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Dr.Rick_Marshall
Posts: 407 - Karma: 44
You are oh so wrong my friend, no one cares if it is a maple leaf or an American flag trust me. Whether you like it or not Canadian and United States lifestyle are practically identical. People dont hate Americans ninety nine percent of the time when I have been traveling and living in another country they have been beyond stoked to meet an American. You can claim its better as much as you want but when it comes down to it, its not.
May 29 2011 8:25PM
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Proletariat.
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This game would be very possible, if the DPRK was actually prosperous and could feed their own people. They would have one hell of a challenge to just take South Korea
May 29 2011 8:34PM
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vailsux.com
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Thread is arbitrary. Despite military might if anything happens it will be a standstill in the pacific once more. I really don't see any way anyone could invade North America.
May 29 2011 9:02PM
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Proletariat.
Posts: 1797 - Karma: 45
Through Mexico or Canada/ Arctic
May 29 2011 9:25PM
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GayWolf420
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You should stop being fucking lame and start using proper grammar.
May 29 2011 9:33PM
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Proletariat.
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Technically the USA was actually invaded and occupied during WWII
May 29 2011 10:03PM
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vailsux.com
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Either way you are fucking with more than just the U.S. Mexico would be the worst route, Central and South America would ignite, mostly in our favor. The only way anyone is getting through Canada is if you guys stab us in the back. The East Coast and Louisiana is really your best bet. The intermountain west is a straight up fortress, armed and ready, plus you would have to fuck with Texas.

That is all off topic though; my point is that a foreign military could certainly invade the U.S., but it would be impossible for said military to conquer all 50 states.

May 30 2011 4:15PM
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californiagrown
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no joke, the northern rockies of the US are where all the crazy gun toting libertarian cult-like groups hangout...its like the afghan/pakistan border with its crazy violent religous groups.

Plus you got Texas...which is just itching to kill more people.
May 30 2011 4:56PM
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Gorilla.Steeze
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mmmm magic hat



Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9......
May 30 2011 8:57PM
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BootySpunk.
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Can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic...either way did you seriously just compare the nothern rockies to the afghan/pakistan border...?
May 30 2011 9:17PM
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Proletariat.
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Interesting Fact: During WWII Hitler tried cutting a deal with the Mexicans to invade the southern USA. He promised funding and weapons for the Mexican invasion army. Germany would lose the war before a deal could be finalized.
May 30 2011 9:26PM
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Gorilla.Steeze
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This actually occurred during World War One. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram

It was more Mexico being smart enough not to invade the US rather than running out of time to finalize a deal.
May 30 2011 9:43PM
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Proletariat.
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Yeah my bad
May 30 2011 9:47PM
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Proletariat.
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I will make up for it with another interesting fact: Did you know Japan actually invaded and established bases on a few of Alaska's Aleutian Islands. The only instance of an axis power successfully invading part of a US state

Did you know Hitler had plans to invade Spain after Francisco Franco kept putting off Spains involvement with Germany in WWII
May 30 2011 9:50PM
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californiagrown
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i could pretty easily see a mujahadin-like resistance springing up in the northern rockies if someone invaded america. Is it really that far fetched to think that?
May 30 2011 10:17PM
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BootySpunk.
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Oh IF someone invaded America...I see what you are getting at now.
May 30 2011 10:37PM
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RubberSoul
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honestly they wouldve had to be retarded to take that deal..
May 31 2011 12:25PM
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blatt
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Derp.... The us economy hasn't collapsed yet not because of our intimidating military, it's because of how symbiotic out economy is with other nations. If our nation goes bankrupt, then so does china, india and several other countries because we are the largest consumers of almost every product out there. As for the whole "military pride" thing, we spend way to much money on funding the most powerful military in the world (theoretically more powerful than 20 of the other strongest militaries in the world). We keep borrowing money in order to intervene in wars just so we can say "were the best country in the world". So don't try and say war saved our economy, war fucked our economy because our representatives like to spend money they don't have. /rant
May 31 2011 12:49PM
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Gorilla.Steeze
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Agreed; however, more idiotic shit has happened before in history.
May 31 2011 1:25PM
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RubberSoul
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lol right you are
May 31 2011 1:27PM
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californiagrown
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but seriously, The military industrial complex has kept my parents employed, and millions of other people employed over the years...so for selfish reasons i am all for wars.


Oh, and the only weapon system that we actually need is the trident subs and missiles. those are the things ensuring that MAD works, everything else can be taken out, but no one can touch these doomsday subs. goodtimes.
May 31 2011 1:32PM
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PurpleDino
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Yeah that is one of the reasons I am for our military.  Every think of what people would do if the army was not an option?  What would we do to create jobs?
May 31 2011 6:11PM
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blatt
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Thats the only reason why congress didnt cut military spending.
May 31 2011 6:13PM
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SirFryanator
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lol @ this whole thread so much ignorance

dennis kusinich 2012 let's make a dept of peace to match the dept of war yay
May 31 2011 6:16PM
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bobby.brown
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californiagrown is dead on. our balistic nuclear subs are chillin underwater all over the world and we could level every capital city in the world in about 2 min. america earned the right to rule the world because we did an incredible good in ww2. and although america sort of inherited germanys wealth of brilliant science and technology we still have been following a reasonably righteous path. although bush may have abused americas power to much for the liking of many countries, we are stilll morally sound and whether or not we deserve it we are the country with gun pointed at every other countries head, unless a country like nkorea finds a cure for cancer, america will be the most obvious choice for who to leave in control of the world . considering that the us could rape and pillage alot more than we do, you have to respect america as a righteous leader. Having such a frail feminine spineless joke of a man like mr obama is a disaster for the us though because its an insullt to be afraid of obamaa t, the same way it would be insulting
Jun 2 2011 11:20PM
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PurpleDino
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You sound like a tyrannical douchebag.
Jun 3 2011 6:56AM
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RubberSoul
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no, he sounds like every other little 19 year old neo-con who has the political positions of an angry little kid and the first-year college IR classes to find fuel for his fire

yeah bud, we "won the right to rule the world" by winning WWII.. britain didnt get absolutely pounded and manage to hold the most important foothold in europe, and the soviets didnt lose and kill more people than we can wrap our heads around. nope, it was solely the usa, with talent on loan from god himself, that saved the world and now has the right to do whatever it wants, and that foreign terrorist who calls himself our president is gonna ruin it all for us with his gay-liberal agenda

look i fucking LOVE the usa but people like you OP are what endanger it more than anything
Jun 3 2011 11:39AM
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ohmythugaim
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This thread is hillarious.



p.s. can anyone see my icon?
Jun 3 2011 11:41AM
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SirFryanator
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the only people that have the right to rule the world are the ones that take it by force...if you can do that and have the ability to make the earth's population follow your beliefs, then fuckin props.

the fighting over religious beliefs (our nation represents the Christians of the crusades, Middle East represents the Islamic nation-states) will turn to fights over resources. that is the only reason the military should be supported. but what resources does the USA have that we need to protect? not that many...maybe some timber, water (once we figure out a more efficient desalinization process), and oil (which will be unimportant in 20 years).

takeovers of land and changing cultures elsewhere is a superficial, self-serving cause that just hurts others. Not that I feel bad about it at all...but why can't people just fucking live and let live? wastes our own resources which we will need in the very near future for what I predict will be WWIII.
Jun 3 2011 11:44AM
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ohmythugaim
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props to global empires?
Jun 3 2011 12:06PM
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SirFryanator
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there has never been a global empire.
Jun 3 2011 12:07PM
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ohmythugaim
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Yes. It sounded like you were suggesting that you would give props to a nation if they managed to take over the world.
Jun 3 2011 12:18PM
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SirFryanator
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yep, that's a feat that's never been done. mad props to whoever can mastermind that plan and unify the peoples of the world under one nation.
Jun 3 2011 12:19PM
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ohmythugaim
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I see. The way you phrased it made it sound like people wouldn't really be unified, but they would be ruled over with an iron fist... I don't think that situation would be too great.
If, on the other hand, someone can manage to unify all of the people on earth peacefully, that would be quite nice i suppose.
The again, would everyone on earth living under the same regieme mean there is only one culture? it could result in a lack of diversirty in humanity which would be a shame.
Jun 3 2011 12:26PM
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SirFryanator
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either way, the same end result is achieved. utopia would be boring. I don't want to get into this argument with you because I'm honestly totally OK with what we have now.

It's the story of the world. Fuckin tragedy.
Jun 3 2011 12:34PM
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bobby.brown
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some of you are idiots if u think another world war couldnt happen. nkorea is probly gonna eventually invade south korea, which is good cuz they can eat eachother instead of their dogs
Jun 5 2011 4:39AM
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ohmythugaim
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lol @ bumping this thread to post this.

Also, whats so bad about eating dogs? You (presumably) eat pigs...
Jun 5 2011 5:42AM
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john.stossel
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i like this thread, the only question is whether russia has secretly kept in the race with the us. what right do americans have to say we own the world if we dont even have the strongest military? the answer is we dont have any rights. if germany was running the world today instead of america, it would be a much much better place
Jul 3 2011 5:11AM
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john.stossel
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we would all "have to" drive mercedes and porsches...it would be horrible haha
Jul 3 2011 5:14AM
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