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Flat Vs Bio

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Ruffles
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Are exactly the same thing. I swear they are identical. If not can someone please explain how they aren't.
May 25 2011 8:26AM
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Mike-O
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Without going into detail, they have nothing in common, so there.
May 25 2011 8:28AM
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alexg1687
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A flatspin is a rodeo that only goes partially inverted. Ie. your feet go higher than your shoulders but never over your head. See TJ Schillers "rodeo 540" trick tip on youtube for an example (he's wearing a light green polo)

A bio is the opposite of a cork. Its where you spin while leaning forward, skis pointed back at the jump. Can very easily turn into a misty if your feet go above your shoulders. See most of Bobby Browns switch double misty 1440s for an example.
May 25 2011 8:32AM
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hodlekve
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in bigger spins they are pretty similar looking.
May 25 2011 9:04AM
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Blindsurfer
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flat is more similar to cork or rodeo, cause u throw it like a backflip but bio is forwards its like the opposite of cork
May 25 2011 9:22AM
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Lemuel
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A flatspin is a completely different rotation. Your feet never go above your head, your back is parallel to the ground and facing the ground. It is basically a lincoln loop, but you are lying on your back. Alot of people think they are doing flatspins when they are doing rodeos, when they aren't blatantly almost upside down. For example, a kangaroo flip is a double rodeo, not a double flat like almost everyone calls it.

A bio is a cork, but leaning forward. Alot of people go misty because they through it too much forward.

But a flatspin is nothing even close to a bio, the rotation is completely different, and your direction of lean is completely opposite.
May 25 2011 9:48AM
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Ruffles
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Alleged Bio





Flatspins





It may just be me, but they all look almost identical to me.
May 25 2011 2:36PM
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Jpurd
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yep they look alot alike
May 25 2011 3:14PM
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Mr_pretzel
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None of the videos you post are correct bios or flats.

May 25 2011 4:02PM
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Get.Kronk
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They look similair but if you really look as they take off their body is thrown completely differently
May 25 2011 4:15PM
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Mr_pretzel
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First is misty 7.
second is really on the line so i dont know.
Third is also really weird.
fourth is rodeo 7.
May 25 2011 4:28PM
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Ian.D
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A true flatspin should look different than a true bio but everything gets mixed up and miss named so I agree they do look very similar and are almost interchangeable after a 7. But a flat 3 or 5 looks nothing like a bio
May 25 2011 4:32PM
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pag
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ever saw a BIo 3 ? I don't remember seeing one
May 25 2011 4:37PM
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Ian.D
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No such thing. Maybe a cork 3 but that is completely different also
May 25 2011 4:43PM
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Davy.Crockett
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the first flat spin was more like a rodeo 7 but lets not get into the flat/rodeo debate
May 25 2011 4:48PM
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Mr_pretzel
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Thats not a debate. In a flatspin you are spinning flat(at 90") And a rodeo is above that.
May 25 2011 4:55PM
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hodlekve
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i hate arguing about tricks, but what you are saying is completely off...
rodeo is basically inverted flatspin. rodeo 3 would be the same as a lincoln loop.
here, get learned: https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/221589/page/1/
"Flatspins are very close to rodeos. They are thrown almost the exact same, but the difference is that in a flatspin, the rider never gets completely inverted"
May 25 2011 4:58PM
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SHoff35
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MAYBE YOU SHOULD QUIT SUCKING COCK AND SNOWBOARD
May 25 2011 4:59PM
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Jonny7
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yup
May 25 2011 5:21PM
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Z-Juice
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this/ they're not similiar

May 25 2011 6:16PM
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BE..
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please go....
May 25 2011 6:22PM
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Inline.
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why? I don't get that
May 25 2011 6:26PM
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SirFryanator
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it's all in the difference in how they are thrown. they indeed can look very similar but a flatspin will be more flippy as a bio will be on a bit of a diff axis and is spinny.

all in all they're both just flippy spinny things names are just a technicality
May 25 2011 7:17PM
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extravert
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Based on those videos a flat 7 is basically a flat 3 + one more rotation. In a bio the off axis-ness is carried through the whole jump. Biggest difference is bio is thrown forward and flat is back.
May 25 2011 7:19PM
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Ruffles
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This makes the most sense out of anything here. Thanks man.
May 25 2011 7:25PM
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zerospinskier
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Click for larger image

/thread. lolz
May 25 2011 7:27PM
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zerospinskier
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The first 270 will never look the same, but the rest after 270 can look similar.
May 25 2011 7:32PM
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Bodhisattva_
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I feel like I'm reading Youtube comments...
May 25 2011 7:33PM
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Charlie_Kelly
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switch bio and misty and you got it.

Bio is more like a front flip and misty is more like a lincoln. (throwing wise that is)
May 25 2011 8:45PM
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Jahrassicpark
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Those vids were terrible examples, and saying bio and flats are the same is saying cork and rodeo is the same
May 25 2011 8:55PM
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JakeSalvador
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Definitely nailed it. 
May 25 2011 8:57PM
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Jonny7
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technically, backflip, frontflip, corks, rodeos, mistys, flats, bios, lincolns, d-spins are all the same.
May 25 2011 9:00PM
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cwillygood
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yes, all of those were def not correct


first was misty
2nd was in between misty/bio

and the last 2 wernt flats
May 25 2011 9:08PM
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Ruffles
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Sorry I can't take you seriously if thats your argument. Apparently you only know what 1 of the flips was, the other 3 you have no idea.

I'm accepting the argument that the difference between flat and bio is that in a bio you spin the entire time off axis(Example: Flat 7 you go off axis for the first 3 then get back on axis for the last 3).
May 25 2011 9:20PM
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steezenskis
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depending on how there thrown, all tricks can look similar, but there is a difference
May 25 2011 9:54PM
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Jabe
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ahaha i remember trying to do one on a warm day, i eventullay landed one..on one ski...and on my back bindings at the top of the knuckle.
May 25 2011 10:20PM
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Jabe
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ahaha i remember trying to do one on a warm day, i eventullay landed one..on one ski...and on my back bindings at the top of the knuckle.
May 25 2011 10:21PM
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hodlekve
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i saw this one shot of something as close as you get to a bio 3 in a edit of a dude shredding either breck or key. it was pretty gangsta, and from sometimes this season.
major props and karma to anyone who finds the vid
May 26 2011 9:45AM
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GBS
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Yeah, someone find the vid =D

May 26 2011 9:54AM
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NowBetterTasting
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textbook flat 5 from JF Cusson

Courtesy of Newschoolers.com

Flat 7
Courtesy of Newschoolers.com

notice it's not forward.
Bio is pretty much a misty but you don't get inverted.

At least back in my day that's how it went
*crawls back into cave*
May 26 2011 2:29PM
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