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Are the ldc tonic grey pants more on the black side or little grey side?
As fas as what? Both are probably even durability and fit wise, Saga has the technical advantage with 3L breathability/waterproofing while LDC is 20k/20k. If technicality doesn't matter too much to you (basically, if you're not going to be waist deep in powder all day, you wont notice the difference), then it simply comes down to what you thing looks better. I like my LDC suit from this past season, it fits well, keeps me warm and dry in New England, and the colors are sweet, however, I'm leaning towards Saga for next year (but still keeping my LDC), the only reason I'm considering switching is for variety.