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Jibberish is like artwork

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BigBadWolf
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Well at least i think it is. I was reading threads on jibberish stuff and we say stuff like "peices" and i think it sounds like artwork. Please don't hate, just thought i would share. (i love jibberish stuff so i am not saying shit)
May 21 2011 1:56AM
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blindside
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Now this is some fantastic free marketing for Jiberish.

Call me overly cynical, hate me, but the bottom line is that a business' purpose is to generate profit, sorry for not being enchanted by the "labour of love" motto.
May 21 2011 6:49PM
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Dan.
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Yes, and that has also been addressed.

http://vimeo.com/15666226

China is not the source of sweatshop labor and dirt cheap manufacturing like it was two decades ago. Labor rates in China are fast approaching those of the rest of the developed world economies. It's still cheaper than the US, but still costly.

The fact of the matter is that manufacturing clothing domestically is nearly impossible. The tooling isn't available, the skilled labor required is no longer here (when was the last time you heard of someone going to a trade school to learn to deal with fabric?), and the US doesn't have any textile mills left, so all of the fabrics have to be source internationally anyway.

The US is a viable place to make artisan clothing (think 300$ hand-made denim or a bespoke suit from a local tailor), but if you want something basic like a hoodie or t-shirt, you're going to be paying for it. Think 2-300 for a hoodie or close to a hundred for a t-shirt.
May 21 2011 6:53PM
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nickyp
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I'm not (and I'm also not a 'kid'). I have long since outgrown wearing hoodies as casual wear, so Jiberish features very lowly on my list of things I care about. I own 1, $30, Element hoodie. But since the opportunity presents itself...

The point is, the price of Jiberish is driven by the massive exogenous demand by kids, as opposed to the quality or raw materials cost. The raw materials cost, and the Labour costs (I wrote a Working Paper for the Journal of European Industrial Relations on comparative Chinese and EU factor costs, so I know just how how low they are) do not account for the price tag. It is not (necessarily) a criticism, just an observation.

Also, as concerns your business model, because demand is largely exogenous, and not contingent on supply, or indeed any sort of market force you would generate significant revenue by producing more, both through supply side expansion and cost-side contraction. Just an observation.
May 21 2011 9:00PM
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Jibberino
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BOOM!!!!! Academically owned!
May 21 2011 9:07PM
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fuckface3.0
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baahahahahahaha
May 21 2011 9:52PM
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.zobel.
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it's called a jiberish piece because that's a piece of jibberish! bwahahaha





*cricket cricket cricket cricket cricket *



nvm
May 21 2011 10:43PM
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THEDICKBUTCHER
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Which means its the same quality as any hoodie found in walmart for 20 bucks right?
May 21 2011 11:06PM
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Inline.
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what the fuck? who gives a shit what they hell they call it. Its a hoodie
May 21 2011 11:11PM
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DirtYStylE
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[img]polar-bear-face-palm_thumbnail1.jpg[/img]
[img]polar-bear-face-palm_thumbnail1.jpg[/img]

Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging items


The quality is determined on the materials... not where its made
May 22 2011 12:57PM
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Lolocaust.
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Sorry, *Girl.
May 22 2011 1:11PM
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.AR6rider.
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Why is it that kids these days refer to clothes as "streetwear" and then assume that other people "just don't get it" when they tell them that they are, in fact, just wearing regular clothes? Is this like a new high school trend or something?
May 22 2011 5:15PM
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AwR
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May 22 2011 5:23PM
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dweezileast
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While outsourcing to China is no longer defined by cheap, shoddy labor, that's not to say it doesn't have its downfalls. I don't know where Jiberish purchases fabric from, but I can safely say it's not purchased from next door to the manufacturer. In order to get a run of clothing made, Jiberish purchases fabric from a source, has it shipped to the manufacturer in China, then shipped back to the US as a finished product, and often then shipped BACK to Europe for sale. That's a ton of fossil fuels/water/energy wasted, not to mention the labor is being outsourced-something our economy needs to step away from.
Manufacturing apparel domestically is definitely a hardship, but what's to say it shouldn't be attempted? We (The AN& Brand) design and construct all of our clothing in the US, our fabric comes from Quebec and Oregon, and our cut & sew pieces this fall will most likely be organic cotton.
Like I said, it's not easy, but we know it can be done. We have spent many long nights learning about fabric, sewing machines, sewing techniques, etc and there's plenty more of those long nights ahead of us. I'm intimately familiar with all of the gripes you have with so-called ski-based "streetwear" brands... they're the reason we started AN&. If you guys show us love we'll make sure to always remain a brand you can relate to and appreciate, without making your wallet too much lighter.
We're dropping our summer website tomorrow, and stay tuned for the fall line coming at the end of the summer. I hate paying $80 for a hoodie just as much as you guys, so you know we're not going to pull that on you.

www.theandbrand.com
May 22 2011 6:53PM
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TOUCHE
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are you saying that some artwork isn't really ugly and overpriced?
May 23 2011 1:34AM
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BIGben*
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Did kangbang let someone win??? No that can't be right, are you sick ot something???
May 23 2011 3:21PM
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alztar
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I only come on newschoolers to steal other peoples opinions
May 23 2011 3:23PM
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Mike-O
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Dweezil! Hell yeah.

Worthy of a bump to see what becomes of you. Earmarked.
May 23 2011 3:33PM
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DG.3
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Weird, I can buy an artisan hoody that my friend made in a sewing class, here in the US, for only $60. That's AMAZING! Thats way better than 2-300 for a hoody!

oh, and congratulations on your (jiberish's) fantastic marketing plan. you have managed to cater to a specific niche and make it very, very profitable! props!

p.s. if its a labour of love, and not about money, why dont you give out free stickers?
May 23 2011 7:29PM
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mattb912
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If it was about money, why don't they sell them?

They do not give them away because they are only for their riders
May 23 2011 7:40PM
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skinakedfast
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hahaaha =)
May 23 2011 7:55PM
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Broseph_Stalin
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dude the corporations mannn

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they trick us into playing there little mind game and rob us with their evil capitalist empire

May 23 2011 8:18PM
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Brock.
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So when we look at the prices on abstract mall and are overcome with feelings of discontent and frustration, you are going through the exact same thing when you get the bill from the overpriced and "exclusive" cut and sew manufacturer?

So who are you really helping here if all you are doing is following suit with the ridiculous special chinese factories.
May 23 2011 8:47PM
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rickroller
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nice
May 24 2011 11:45AM
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Twinjibber77
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LoL
May 24 2011 11:57AM
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LeoSpaceman
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well no grown man would look like this

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you're a fucking kid.
May 24 2011 12:41PM
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Mike-O
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Haha, that's not Nick, Trill. Try again.
May 24 2011 12:57PM
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nickyp
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This isn't me. Moron.
May 24 2011 1:27PM
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LeoSpaceman
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lol

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fashion connoisseur over here. too hip for hoodies.
May 24 2011 1:43PM
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Brock.
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lololololol he looks like a ballerina
May 24 2011 5:05PM
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.94
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Sorry just thought i would jump in on this ahah
In my opinion it's so trendy that they can up the price and they will still sell out. They arent anything super duper special, just people like it so its easy to buy/sell/trade!
May 24 2011 6:13PM
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PattyC
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its not necissarly that they are trendy its that they look tight and pretty much every one of the hoodies is creative, name one brand that has cooler graphics. call me a fanboy i dont give a fuck because i am haha
May 24 2011 6:23PM
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jca
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I like the sound of what you guys are doing! I've been trying to buy as much stuff that's domestically or locally made as I can and there isn't too much out there. The more people who start doing business like this and support domestic textile manufacturers the better. Not to mention the rising oil prices will start to drive up overseas shipping prices.
May 24 2011 6:37PM
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