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Armada ar7 vs Moment Reno Jib

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adamwhit8
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Hey guys i've been looking at these two skis as my options for next year, what do you guys think?
Apr 29 2011 9:20PM
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DBL
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1. Your Size and Weight
2. What do you ski? (Probably park because they are park skis)
-If park rails/jump ratio
3.What kind of skier are you (beginner, intermediate, advanced, aggressive, conservative)?
Apr 29 2011 9:45PM
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Kangbang
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I personally like my Reno Jibs over Ar7's. Read my review on them.
Apr 29 2011 11:36PM
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adamwhit8
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yeah i want a fun messaround ski and i ski like 75% park, im 140 pounds and im an intermediate/advanced skiier but im not too aggressive and i do about 70% rail, 30% jumps
Apr 30 2011 11:19AM
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Kangbang
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Either ski would be great for you. The thing is, do you like to ski switch? Skiing switch on the Ar7's isn't so fun because I have a harder time doing it, but on the Reno Jibs' (symm ski) it's super easy and really fun.
Apr 30 2011 12:45PM
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wynnyk
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If you have your AR7s center mounted, they ski switch great. Even though they're not symmetrical, you don't notice it when you're skiing.
Apr 30 2011 1:25PM
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Kangbang
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Not really, I skied my friend's center mounted Ar7's and I had a tougher time skiing switch, then on symm skis.
Apr 30 2011 1:44PM
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wynnyk
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yeah, I guess you'd notice it quite a bit if you switched from a symmetrical ski right after you were skiing on it. once you get used to it, it's barely noticeable.
Apr 30 2011 1:54PM
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Kangbang
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Yeah probably. I guess its weather or not you want a symm ski when it comes down to it. Both Reno Jibs and Ar7's are super fun. Either ski won't be a bad choice.
Apr 30 2011 2:40PM
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adamwhit8
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which is better for durability? weight? and which will be softer/ hold up on groomers better

Apr 30 2011 2:59PM
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Kangbang
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Both are very durable skis. Reno Jibs are lighter. Ar7's are a bit softer.
Apr 30 2011 3:11PM
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adamwhit8
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i thought they made the jibs a lot softer this year?
Apr 30 2011 3:39PM
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Kangbang
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They did, but they are still stiffer than the Ar7's.
Apr 30 2011 3:55PM
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adamwhit8
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are you still able to butter on the reno jibs
Apr 30 2011 4:03PM
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Kangbang
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Yeag.
Apr 30 2011 4:07PM
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adamwhit8
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which will hold up better for groomers/messin around in trees (east coast so no pow)
May 1 2011 7:25PM
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.RYAN66
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ar7 is softer andthus more playfull so it will be better in pow. i would get the ar7 it is a great ski and skiing switch is so easy kangbang must have learned to ski switch on a symitrical ski so dont go by hus judgement on that.
May 1 2011 7:52PM
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Kangbang
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It's a park ski made for park. Not a park ski made for powder.
May 1 2011 7:52PM
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adamwhit8
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fighting isnt worth it guys haha, but i will not be skiing much pow at all if any, but will both hold up to groomers fine or which is better, worse, more stable?
May 1 2011 8:37PM
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Kangbang
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They are both good skis in park and on groomers. Either ski you choose will be great.
May 1 2011 8:40PM
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adamwhit8
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haha theres my problem im tryin to get pros and cons to fin which one i would prefer.
By the way, which will hold up better on ice? im on east coast and i commonly get ice days
May 2 2011 5:18PM
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.AR6rider.
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I would go AR7. I got to ride my brothers a few times this year and they were really sick. They were light and poppy, but not too stiff. They seem pretty durable, and if they're anything like my AR6s, they'll last a long time unless you really beat the shit out of them. They'll most likely perform better on groomers than the Moments since they're not symmetrical/meant to be center mounted, and I found that I could carve them pretty damn hard. I wouldn't worry about skiing switch on them, because if you're having trouble, you probably can't ski switch anyway. I skied switch on them perfectly fine and they were mounted -2.5, which I thought was perfect for the ski.
May 2 2011 5:23PM
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.RYAN66
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my ar7's are amazing on ice the edge lasts because they have that 2.0 edge thing for extra strengh and the flex is super fun it is buttery and stiff at the same time, it is weird when you think about it but it is such an amazing ski.
May 2 2011 7:25PM
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Big_Tuna
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exactly
i love mine they are absolutely great in all conditions for them being park skis like i was able to ski the switch in pow haha also very soft and playful.
they also hold up really nicely on the ice but i dont know i ski in the west so i dont really know those conditions sorry.
May 2 2011 9:46PM
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wynnyk
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after half a season of riding on them, I can definitely say my edges didn't last very long at all. I still love the ski though.
May 2 2011 9:48PM
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Kangbang
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If your egdes are dulled to shit, they will be terrible on ice. No grip what so ever.
May 2 2011 10:10PM
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adamwhit8
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i realize that. im wondering which of the twos edges hold up better?
May 2 2011 10:24PM
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adamwhit8
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its all about the East Coast Hardcore Real Stuff hahah
May 2 2011 10:26PM
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Big_Tuna
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hahaha most definitely but over here its all steep and deep man cant beat that
May 2 2011 10:39PM
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.RYAN66
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should have bought a jj insted if you ski steep and deep.
May 3 2011 6:39AM
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Big_Tuna
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yeah haha i really wish i did but my mountain has a pretty good park so and i ski lots of really tight trees so i wanted something that would flex around them haha but im thinking about get the caylors
May 3 2011 5:14PM
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.RYAN66
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where do you ski? i am moving to denver this year and am probably getting an epic pass and am trying to figure out a place that has some good powder spots.
May 3 2011 5:46PM
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Big_Tuna
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haha nice ! yeah i ski in the Canadian rockies soo like kicking horse , sunshine, revelstoke and up those areas
May 3 2011 6:00PM
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adamwhit8
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well when its the east coast crap, which ski has better edges for all the ice? how about durability?
May 3 2011 8:42PM
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Big_Tuna
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well i just know that the ar7s hold up really nicely on the ice, (When im spring skiing) and the edges are super durable as well i hit rails all year long and they are still sharp enough to scrape my finger nails
May 3 2011 11:07PM
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adamwhit8
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how about weight related to each other? ive heard lots about the ar7 but not much about the jibs any opinions?
May 6 2011 8:43PM
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.RYAN66
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the weight doesnt matter, the swing weight dies and the ar7 is amazing
May 7 2011 4:54AM
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adamwhit8
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any experience to compare to the jibs?
May 7 2011 5:52PM
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.RYAN66
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no, but seeing as only armada has the ar50 sidewall which is what makes the ar7 a great ski i am pretty confident in saying that the ar7 has the lightest swing weight on the market.
May 7 2011 8:30PM
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Big_Tuna
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yeah i would concur with this it also makes it more durable, no peeling on the sidewall there
May 7 2011 11:01PM
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awelton
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To help you with the ice topic, I went back to MN  over winter break. I had two straight weeks of fuckin around on ice with my ar7's and they held up great. I have no experience on jibs, but i do own night trains and those are the best ski in the history of man (probably an exaggeration) . The jibs are probbly great too, but a company that is smaller and based in the west makes em. Armada makes skis for "all over the world" conditions. I would go ar7 if you ski the beast. ( btw i still have ar5's from my cousin that were beat to shit and i love them.) durability won't be a problem. Ar7 my man
Jun 10 2011 4:00PM
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adamwhit8
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sounds good, thanks man
Jul 4 2011 3:32PM
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TheClap.
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you also can barley ski, just bc you cant do it doesnt mean a single thing.

Ive skied both and you really cant go wrong, I like moment more for the fact its USA made.
Jul 4 2011 3:46PM
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DUKES
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if looking for an alternative liberty lte
Jul 4 2011 6:53PM
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TheClap.
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three year warranty ftw
Jul 4 2011 7:15PM
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DUKES
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OOOHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHH
Jul 4 2011 7:18PM
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.RYAN66
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i love shit that is made in the USA but as far as ski i dont think you can beat austria. which is where armada is made.
Jul 4 2011 8:52PM
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adamwhit8
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hey man, thanks for the input but no need for hating on others man, its all good
Jul 4 2011 11:05PM
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blah..
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I have the ar7's and I ski east coast and there's honestly nothing bad I can say about them. I haven't skied the moment skis, but skiing ice is great with the ar7's, no chatter, firm edge, don't feel washed out at all once you get on edge. But at the same time if your just messing around on flat or in the park, they flex nice and smoothly. They're suuuuuper durable with armada quality, and I mean if Jacob wester hits 70+ foot jumps with them, I think we can officially establish they're stiff enough for that. Overall, great ski.
Jul 4 2011 11:40PM
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Gstrong
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Lol @kangbang post whoring.
Jul 5 2011 12:38AM
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adamwhit8
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nice man thanks. overall next year i think im leaning toward the ar7 (or 8 whatever they are calling it) cause i have heard great things about em but i really havent heard much about the jibs so i feel like im leaning toward armada for now
Jul 5 2011 4:08PM
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