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Q. about Bent Chetlers and other pow skis...

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Tomskis
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First of all is there any difference between the 10/11 Bents and the 11/12 bents? apart from the different graphics?

Im thinking of getting myself a pow ski that i can ride but im worried that the chetlers may be too soft from what im used to. l only have a pair of elan carvers so im used to a nice stiff ski which i like. The other pair ive looked at is the moment bibby pro model which is supposedly stiff in the tail but im still unsure if its capable of ripping up groomers?

Thanks for any help :)
Apr 27 2011 4:33PM
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skithesprings
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if you want a really nice stiff pow ski try the surface new lifes. i'm in love with mine and they are definitely a ski that can send it. the three stage rocker is sick too, theres a nice platform to rip groomers on but the tip and tail still have plenty of rocker to stay afloat. plus its 151-122-151, so it kills it switch or regular.
Apr 27 2011 4:37PM
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skithesprings
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oh, and that being said, i loved the benny's but they were a bit expensive for me to shell out for. that and i like the switch performance of the newlifes in pow better.
Apr 27 2011 4:39PM
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Ski.Ballet
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I second the vote for the New Life. One of the most fun skis ever
Apr 27 2011 4:47PM
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PeteySkeety
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Maybe ON3P Caylor or ON3P Wrenegade. But I don't think the Bent Chetlers will be to soft for you, they will just be fun, personally I am not a fan of super stiff pow skis.
Apr 27 2011 4:53PM
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Spacekroft
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the manager at one of my local shops was telling me that next years 11/12 bentchetlers will have a 15% stiffer tails but unchanged other than that.
Apr 27 2011 5:17PM
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MothaHucker
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this
Apr 27 2011 6:24PM
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jblaski
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I demo'd a pair of BC's on a 8-10" day last week. It took me about 5-6 laps before I really got the feel of them.

They turned out to be a really fun ski. I would consider them pretty similar to the K2 Obsethed. Although, I felt the tips were a bit stiffer than the Obsethed. I did feel the tails were just stiff enough to charge through most any snow, but not quite stiff enough to really charge on groomers. Related to that, I thought they were actually pretty sketchy on hardpack and groomers.

I did spend the day dropping cornices and rocks/cliffs. And I thought that it was a super fun ski for that. Being as wide as it is, landings were really stable.

I certainly wouldn't make the BC my one ski quiver, but if you're looking for a straight pow ski, it is really fun.
Apr 27 2011 8:37PM
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84891jnf92048
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if youre interested in the bennies, i would go for em. they arent super super soft, but they are soft enough to be playful, and yet stiff enough to shred.
Apr 27 2011 8:43PM
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Ghini
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Check some reviews, they can rip groomers, no slalom turns offcourse, but longer and faster turns are great!
Apr 28 2011 6:38AM
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Twig
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On the off chance you do go for the Chetlers, I'm in the UK and thinking of selling my pair.. I loved em but they overlap too much with other skis... hit me up if you are interested...

Personally I found them to be fairly stiff but I'm only light so that might be why.. I think as jibby powder skis go they are a good one for someone who is used to a normal carver, they do carve really welll...
Apr 28 2011 4:32PM
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Alkyy
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I was deciding between thoes the CRJ and the Bibby, I ended up going with the CRJ just because i got a killer deal on them. I never got out on the bents but everyone i know who are on them love them. The crj is amazing, better in tight trees than the Bibby but worse charging or on high speed groomers. I dont think you could go wrong on any of the three. CRJ has a stiffer tail and soft tip but are still super playful and i can still straightline soft chutes without worry its just groomers sometimes get a little tricky
Apr 28 2011 7:45PM
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AJizzle
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The benchetlers are a sick ski, he said they would be relatively unchanged for 11/12, but the graphics r the best benchetler graphic soo far imo. The colors are insanely sick. If u want max stability, I found the 192 a great mix of stability and playfullness. Disclaimer: I love long skis
Apr 30 2011 4:25AM
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JalenAq
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I ride the JJ for my POW ski. The elf shoe rocker and shape are the sickest. And since Armada was the first company to really perfect the powder ski, they do it right. they're heavier enough to rock through the crud, and soft enough to slay deep powder
Apr 30 2011 1:18PM
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.nasty
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never ridden them, but they're not usually one of those skis I hear people raving about and saying "THIS SKI IS AMAZING". they're okay, but there are way better options.
Apr 30 2011 1:31PM
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AJizzle
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r u high, or maybe I should ask how high r u to spew that bullshit out of ur face?
Apr 30 2011 1:57PM
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Kreech
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HOLLDDDD UPPP!!!!! The reverse/reverse volante spatula was around BEFORE ARMADA WAS A COMPANY. Everybody knows that Shane McConkey pioneered rocker and reverse sidecut shape!!! People were SLAYING powder on the pontoon, a design thats still around today, before Armada was even making rockered skis! What are you doing with your life??? Also, the JJs are a VERY light ski compared to most powder skis, and they don't exactly have the most rocker. Its high, but quite short.
Apr 30 2011 2:14PM
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jca
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hhahaha. where do you get this shit from?
Apr 30 2011 2:19PM
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FUUUCK
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The bentchetler isn't a noodle, it's a medium flex for sure. It's one of the best "all around" powder skis that I've tried. Very jibby if that's your thing. If you're only buying it for the really deep days I would suggest a pow ski without camber, if not the Bentchetlers are a solid choice.
Apr 30 2011 3:59PM
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armada802
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I personally love the bentchetlers, but there are really soft. They are versatile for how wide the waist is(123mm), and they are amazing if you dont ski pow traditionally. The bentchetlers and hellbents are both amazing pow skis but soft. If you want stiff pow skis then look no further than the On3p Caylor, but they might even be to stiff for what your looking for. Who ever says JJ are not good pow skis, is completely wrong, they are made in the same factory as the bentchetlers, and really similiar. The bentchetlers are a touch softer and the dimensions there dim. are slighty wider. They have almost identical rocker(if not identical) and have the same elf shoe tips and tails(Atomic doesnt call them that). Anything under 8 inches fresh I ski them but over that I bring out the ARG's. The JJs are fine in a foot and a half of fresh Utah pow(best powder in north america imo), and only get bogged down in over two feet of wet snow. I personally would go with the bentchetler because they are top three most verstile pow skis.
Apr 30 2011 9:47PM
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Kreech
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^ Well obviously the JJ can hold it's own in powder; it's a tapered, rockered, 115-waisted ski. However, there are much better tools for the job when it comes to pure powder. The JJ is very versatile and good in crud, good in powder, and can carve rails on groomers. But if you're going to be buying a POWDER SPECIFIC ski, that happens to have some versatility as an added benefit, there are better options, namely the hellbent, or if you like something a bit stiffer, the caylor, or the night train, or any number of skis that have greater rocker and width than the JJ. Just my .02
May 1 2011 2:26PM
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JalenAq
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People get so excited to shut you down on Newschoolers. it's hilarious. Bunch of 13 year old kids in XL t-shirts that read too many ski reviews and call themselves experts. You can eat my ass if you're dissing on the JJ. Drop fatter lines then me and i'll consider listening to your whiney ass voices
May 1 2011 2:43PM
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Kreech
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Wow there man, I wasn't trying to be offensive or anything, just trying to state the facts. The JJ is a great ski, I've skied on it multiple times. I just thought that because the OP was asking about the chetler and other powder skis, that I would suggest some skis that I personally liked better in the powder, after demoing/trying friends skis. The JJ is great in shallow/medium powder, crud, mank, even pack. Its still a great ski in deep powder. I just think that if you're looking for a deep powder ski, get something with a bit more width and rocker. Possibly even reverse sidecut if you're not skiing too many groomers. Chill out bro.

p.s. Just because I said something that you didn't like about a piece of equiptment doesn't mean you automatically have to try to discredit that by saying I'm 13 and wear tall tees and cant ski big lines, something you have absolutely no idea of. Thats just retarted. chill out.
May 1 2011 2:50PM
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jca
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haha, who the fuck are you?
May 1 2011 3:30PM
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84891jnf92048
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hahahahah im laughing so hard at XL.

also the hardest claim there at the end...



but really, you just spewed bullshit in your post.
May 1 2011 3:49PM
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jahhhvis
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bro theres a reason you have zero karma. retard
May 5 2011 7:37PM
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JalenAq
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My life's dream is to have good karma and thousands of posts on Newschoolers. You're right, i have work to do
May 5 2011 7:58PM
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