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SURFACE SKIS GOOOD OR NOT

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snwjibber
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I am  just wondering how good of a brand of ski is Surface, they are not the most exspensize ski so i was just curious how good of quality they are please help me out!!??

Apr 23 2011 8:39AM
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Mr_pretzel
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They are all right i guess.
Apr 23 2011 9:35AM
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DUKES
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you know what could help is the searchbar
Apr 23 2011 9:57AM
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DGski
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i have a pair they r pretty good
Apr 23 2011 11:16AM
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Afeld
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I'd give them a solid "meh"

Pros: fun, light, poppy
Cons: Not durable, bases do not absorb wax well
Apr 23 2011 11:50AM
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EmperorKuzco
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I've been a firsthand witness of atleast 3 breaking right in front of me, so.....
Apr 23 2011 12:13PM
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BIGben*
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This but two.
Apr 23 2011 1:16PM
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K_Carter
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Sounds durable...
Apr 23 2011 4:01PM
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Shredability
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Their pows skis are sick


I have heard nothing good about their park ski
Apr 23 2011 4:45PM
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joshua
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I have nine lifes and they are super light and poppy, but not all that durable. They are also cheaper than the average park ski though.
Apr 23 2011 4:55PM
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rudager
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It all depends on which ski you get. They've had plenty of problems with there park skis.
Haven't heard anything about their pow skis. My One Lifes have held up for the past two seasons, besides the bases.
Apr 23 2011 6:09PM
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SkiThe603
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GET SOME THEY ARE ILL
Apr 23 2011 7:09PM
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cobra_commander
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I have seen skis that had the binding mat in the wrong place, it looked like they laid up the ski backwards. For some reason they managed to lay up the other ski in the pair correctly.

I have seen a skis that had one of the sidewalls plained, they other sidewall on the ski was vertical, looked like it had been cut with a band saw and then not finished at all.

There do seem to be people who are very happy with the skis though. I guess it comes down to if you get a well made pair or not. Hard to say if you will.
Apr 23 2011 7:46PM
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ChucklesNorman.
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I have one lifes and they are awesome. probably 15 hard days on them with nothing more than a few topsheet chips.
Apr 23 2011 8:06PM
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cobra_commander
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sounds like you have really tested them
Apr 23 2011 8:12PM
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rudager
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2 seasons on them, few topsheet chips. Smashed in a tail edge, epoxyed that up. Soft bases. Still have all of their life and stiffness left on them
Apr 23 2011 8:14PM
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dbchili
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this. If a ski still has its edges in after 2 years with 60+ days on rails THEN you should be happy. I haven't heard of this happening much with surface, but i've never owned a pair so don't take my word
Apr 23 2011 9:20PM
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TOAST.
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My friend snapped a pair and now he keeps ripping the bindings out of the new pair. Could be shitty mount i guess.
Apr 23 2011 9:36PM
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Funnel
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I watched my friend snap both skis simultaneously. One of his skis delaminated on the second day of the season. Surface owned up to it and warrantied the skis, but I would not risk my money on a pair.
Apr 23 2011 10:09PM
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mike5176
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surface parks skis aren't durable i've broken the 9 lifes after 4 weeks they sent me the 2010-2011 no times after about 4 days and then the no times broke after two days and a hela-coil.come to find out that particular year and model the mounting insert of the ski was placed wrong when built so your binding screws into just the wood core..now im stuck ski-less until they send me next years ski. they are fun if your not hucking really hard, as for the pow skis i hear they are sick as balls, havent heard any problems on that side of the spectrum, company is hella cool good about warranties. just kinda my view of shit
Apr 23 2011 11:00PM
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S.RUZYCKI
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theyre built cheap
Apr 23 2011 11:45PM
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.nasty
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sounds like your grammar is fucking terrible.
Apr 24 2011 12:33PM
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Balto
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sounds like billy knows exactly what he is talking about, like he always does
Apr 24 2011 12:37PM
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Kangbang
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My friend broke his No times, got them warrantied for Double times. Brok those and got them warrantied for New lifes.
Apr 24 2011 2:42PM
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skithesprings
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i have the newlifes and could not be happier.

it seems that the park skis break all the time but the pow skis hold up. the best part imo of the newlifes is that the bases are literally rock hard. they don't hold wax that well, but i have never hit so many rocks on a pair of skis and come away clean of any damage. the only thing that was able to take away any base was an exposed piece of angle iron that was literally razor sharp steel. besides that no amount of rocks could damage those sticks. it's nice to get into a line that turns out to be all jagged rocks with a thin covering of snow and literally walk out stepping on the rocks with your skis and check them out later to find that there is no sign of damage.

i can't really speak for their park skis, i have seen the sidewalls and edges do some crazy things on relatively new skis
Apr 24 2011 3:18PM
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andrew95
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have you had experience with one life's bases?
Apr 24 2011 3:40PM
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snwjibber
Posts: 228 - Karma: 35
Thanks for all the info guys i would be looking to get a park ski sooooo im guessing they wont hold up that well because i compete and i will have at least 50 days on rails more like 70
Apr 24 2011 3:41PM
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rudager
Posts: 11335 - Karma: 4,626
From what I've heard, Next years No Times and Double times have been revamped to be beefier and more durable.
Can't say anything until then though.
Apr 24 2011 3:50PM
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skithesprings
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i have not. but i would image it would just depend on if its the same base material.

I have last years with the all red base (pictured below) not sure if the same base is used for all of surfaces skis.

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Apr 24 2011 3:58PM
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hjb
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Which ski exactly? I've got some New Lifes (pink bases) that don't hold wax for shit
Apr 24 2011 4:26PM
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schism
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No surface ski will hold wax due to their extruded base. Sintered bases hold wax, just so you all know
Apr 24 2011 8:42PM
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snwjibber
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  i just need a ski that will hold up under 60 days of skiing more like 70
Apr 24 2011 8:54PM
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rudager
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Of aggressive park skiing? Good luck. I haven't had a ski that has lasted over 60 days since I was 14. Don't want to sound like a dick or anything, but skis lose life in less than a season if you ski hard enough . If it's casual skiing, you should be fine though. And everything I've just said might be exaggerated a bit . none the less, you'll notice wear and tear after awhile
Apr 24 2011 9:40PM
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GayWolf420
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I've gotten easily 65+ days on my 2nd pair of doubletimes skiing park excessively and agressively. In my opinion, Surface is good.
Apr 25 2011 12:50AM
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hjb
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Thanks mate. I do have difficulty reading you know. What I was getting at (and now someone has already mentioned) was which skis had Afeld had problems with specifically? My New Lifes don't hold wax for shit, I was wondering if was just my skis, or just New Lifes or the whole Surface line up. So after reading this thread I have learnt two things:

1) Surface skis do not absorb wax very well due to their extruded bases.

2) You are a twat.
Apr 25 2011 3:05AM
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cobra_commander
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I have learned that you suck at reading and expect everyone to slowdown around you.
Apr 25 2011 12:03PM
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hjb
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What?

^And not really trying to insult you, just stating a fact.
Apr 25 2011 2:54PM
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skithesprings
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read it once more, perhaps out loud. his point was incredibly clear.
Apr 25 2011 4:32PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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yeah i've seen 2 pairs of their park ski's snap in front of my eyes this year so i'd say shy away...

on the other hand i was honestly amazed that my alpha 1's came out with only 6 small edgecracks this season after no joke 100+ days of consecutive rail/park riding. shits crazy..
Apr 25 2011 9:31PM
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Aaaron.
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bam. super fun ski. terrible build and the bases suck
Apr 25 2011 10:34PM
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Download-My-Apps
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snapped 4 pairs in 2 seasons, poorly constructed skis.
Apr 26 2011 5:09PM
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dstriebs
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So I just got some no times in the mail today and put them together and saw that they had very minimal early rise in the tip, but the tail had a huge amount. When I compress the skis together the early rise begins almost behind where the binding would be and there is a solid inch gap between the skis towards the end of the tail. Is this normal or is it just this pair of skis I got?  Someone with No Times please let me know!
Apr 28 2011 10:41PM
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andrew95
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msg surface on facebook
Apr 28 2011 10:44PM
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dstriebs
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I emailed them but I figured I would ask newschoolers for the quick response because I didn't know if it was normal or not haha. I can post pics
Apr 28 2011 10:47PM
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andrew95
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definitely not normal from what i have seen
Apr 28 2011 10:51PM
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dstriebs
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yeah that's what I was thinkin..
Apr 28 2011 10:59PM
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Scott0_robot0
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there pow sticks are pretty good, i think it would be nicer if there bases hheld wax better though, there park skis are alright its kinda hit or miss with them.
despite that they are very fun and playful, and light. the double times seem to be more durable than the no times but they are adding some beef to the core for next years park ski so they might not be as buttery but will hold up better.
Apr 28 2011 11:47PM
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