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Frontflip d-spin

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pinhead_larry
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Ok so correct me if I'm wrong, but a d-spin is a complete backflip with a rotation of some sort. So what the hell is a complete (on-axis) frontflip with a rotation called. It's probably insanely hard to do, but ive never really thought about.
Apr 22 2011 12:51AM
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alexg1687
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Don't think of a d spin as a flip. Its a cork that goes inverted...ie. your feet go above your shoulders at some point.

The opposite of that is a misty, which is an inverted bio spin. Bio spin is the opposite of cork...its leaned forward rather than back. A misty is essentially a front flip with a spin in it but its thrown slightly differently than just a frontflip 180. You sort of throw your right hand down to your left knee and then look over the shoulder and imagine rolling your back over a table.
Apr 22 2011 12:56AM
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pinhead_larry
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So what i'm suggesting is a misty?
Apr 22 2011 1:00AM
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Download-My-Apps
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truth^ but a full front flip spin is a brany, where is a full backflip spin in a flair. If that makes sense to the OP
Apr 22 2011 1:00AM
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pinhead_larry
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Ok so i meant like in aerials. They basically only throw flairs?
Apr 22 2011 1:03AM
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Download-My-Apps
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kinda, i believe a backflip 360 is a backfull where the rotation and flip occur at the same time. But a flair is like half a backflip until upside-down and 180, 360 or whatever in the last half.
Apr 22 2011 1:06AM
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Download-My-Apps
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This is a flair

:16 is backfull




Dspin





Apr 22 2011 1:29AM
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Tremblantskier
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Quoting wiki

A Berani flip, (also called a Barani Flip, or Brani flip), is an aerial maneuveur consisting of a front flip and a 180 degree turn (half twist). This trick is performed in number of sports including but not limited to gymnastics, cheerleading, trampoline, and aggressive inline skating. The 180 degree turn is carried out usually halfway through the frontflip.

In gymnastics, a Barani is described as a roundoff without hands.[1]

It is named after Italian circus acrobat and tumbler Alfonso Baroni, who performed the trick around 1881

Apr 22 2011 1:35AM
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pinhead_larry
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Thanks guys. Teh karma to everyone
Apr 22 2011 2:04AM
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Freestyla_01
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Mike Douglas, creator of the D spin, did it as an off axis 3 to backflip kind of thing.

JF Cusson had a trick in The Game, where it was a backflip to late 360, the miracle flip. Best trick ever.

Apr 22 2011 2:07AM
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Drail
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Hate to be a stickler, but I do believe that JP Auclair coined the miracle whip (or flip or whatever). At the Jonny Moseley Invitational he went for a rodeo 7 but ended up doing a back to late 3 type thing...


JF kinda threw his rodeos like that around then (like Degenerates/13 ish)




And yes - in my mind a "D-spin" is a cork 3 that doesn't come back to upright axis that is flipped out of. Candide did them beautifully way back in the day. I believe he won x-games big air back in the day with the trick.



yeah... i'm a nerd.
Apr 22 2011 2:18AM
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Tremblantskier
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I thought Evan Raps invented the "Miracle Whip"? I recall this freeskier profile from like 1999 talking about it.
Apr 22 2011 2:36AM
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Chubz.
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i tried one of those in a foam pit today....its hard as fuck i can't do it. Got dub mistys though :)
Apr 22 2011 2:39AM
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Drail
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funny 'cause I thought it was in the JP Auclair interview in Freeskier around the same time. Anyone have a copy of either issue in question?
Apr 22 2011 2:46AM
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HKrass
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all these tricks confuse the shit out of me. am i the only one?

Apr 22 2011 3:08AM
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LC.
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Again, I feel old. A D-spin in a forward direction was called a rockbottom, it was kind of like an inverted bio and looked different to a misty 7. Only a couple of people ever threw them, I think there was big air footage of CR doing one.
Apr 22 2011 4:29AM
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erazzleski
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I think everybody on this thread can agree to disagree on what different tricks are called....the names change from place to place. what i will call a nugget, you will call switch skier slide. what you call a flair, I'll call a rodeo. It's the same trick, just named differently
Apr 22 2011 10:37AM
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belden...
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i hate skiing tricks haha what the fuck is a rodeo then?
Apr 22 2011 11:26AM
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casual
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A flair is a pipe/quarterpipe trick. Approach wall regular, pop, 90 down pipe, lincoln towards pipe interior, 90 down pipe, land forward.
Apr 22 2011 11:35AM
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Mr.Huck
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This! Someone posted earlier that a Branny, as it is commonly called now, was a full twisting front. It is a front 180. Shane used to do them a lot. A front full has been done on skis before. Not that tough. The difference between a misty and a front full is how the trick is started. Punch the midget for a misty, Superman cartwheel for front full.
Apr 22 2011 11:53AM
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Drail
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well no. you would be wrong. calling it a rodeo doesn't make it a rodeo.


Apr 22 2011 12:04PM
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Drail
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Berrani is a fun trick to do on a trampline and diving boards and such. never bothered to try one on skis, but i'm sure it level of fun would remain the same.

if anyone wants to try one they're super easy. throw a front flip all laid out, but don't take your eyes off the ground, in fact, stare at the ground with all intent. When you get inverted do a hip twist to spin a quick 180 and keep staring at the same spot, you will naturally come around and land backwards. tadah!
Apr 22 2011 12:07PM
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Download-My-Apps
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I do them accidentally on the rare occasion when i fuck up my fronts, i find allot of people do them be label them a misty 5
Apr 22 2011 1:45PM
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Download-My-Apps
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all these tricks are very similar just different axis IMO. I often try rodeo and it turns flair, flat or cork. They all look cool and would score similar in comps and to most people would be called the same trick



lead with shoulder get inverted but not full flip. But like its really doesnt matter about the names just feel its good to know what other people and yourself are doing for safety :)




Apr 22 2011 1:51PM
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Hughes
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badass polo tall tee.....
i always thought rodeos were more like inverted flatspins and in that vid he doesn't really go inverted so i'm now confused about the difference between rodeos and flatspins
Apr 22 2011 4:36PM
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Download-My-Apps
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they pretty much are. Like totally depends on what you consider a rodeo, but its more or less a flatspin with your feet slightly above your head, but not a complete flip, then its turns more underflip.

Confusing, but really its just a fine line. Its all fun so it doesn't really matter
Apr 22 2011 5:16PM
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monkatizer
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rodeo is basicly like a lincoln loop with a 180 mixed in, look at it as if u are rolling over a table on your back
Apr 22 2011 5:26PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Just like how Misty's are the opposites of Rodeo's, there are forward versions of corks and d-spins, but they're hard as fuck to do. A forward Cork = Bio, but most forward D-spins get lumped into the "Misty" category.

I've heard the term "Orbital" to describe the trick a few years ago, but as it takes me a great deal of analysis to detect the difference between a forward D-spin and a Misty, its not worth it. I'm fine with lumping them into the Misty category, dont see a need to change, it wont come down to a Misty and Forward D-spin going head to head in any big air finals anytime soon.
Apr 22 2011 6:38PM
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Chompo.
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i would probably say bio
Apr 22 2011 9:41PM
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LittleGiurk
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yes... they aren't that hard but it takes a while to stomp. your pretty much blind almost the whole time... especially on misty 5s
Apr 22 2011 9:48PM
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