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Skis For My Dad Help!

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stickerman
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hey,

so my dad is skiing on a couple years ago k2 public enemys. he likes them since they just bash through heavy snow and crud and they are pretty stiff. he is 6'3" and 230 pounds and skis mostly groomers and trees. in ontario we get like 2-3 pow days a year (nothing over 1 foot.) he wants a twintip ski because he does venture into the park and hits the jump line. not really any rails. so which ski would be ideal for him? he has already looked at the volkl wall and dynaster spin.

Sparknotes: Stiff ski, good on the groomers and in the trees. floats well in about 1 foot of fresh and come in 179cm+ size

+k to any suggestionss!
Apr 3 2011 3:06PM
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Mr_pretzel
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184 k2 extreme if you can find them.
Apr 3 2011 3:08PM
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stickerman
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was trying to find these. thanks +k
Apr 3 2011 3:09PM
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zahava
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181 s4's!!!! Such stable skis, rip all over the mountain (trees, groomers, a bit of EC pow, bumps) and they do really well in the park. Their super stiff (both length and torsionally) and have a nice sidecut so they carve really well. Their super light and their really durable, will easily last 2-3 season if your not only doing rails.
Apr 3 2011 4:39PM
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BmoChop
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Here are 179 k2 extremes with schizofrantics,http://www.buckmans.com/store/K2-Extreme-Skis-with-Schizofrantic-Bindings---Mens-OSCARItem_1353=9708.aspx this is my local shop's website so I can vouch for their legitness. They have some other stuff took take a look around.
Apr 3 2011 6:52PM
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BmoChop
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sorry for double post, i meant "too so" not "took"
Apr 3 2011 7:38PM
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stickerman
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thanks for the reply's everybody! keep them coming.
Apr 3 2011 8:26PM
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ace_
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prophet 100 or influence 105 (stiffer prophet series)
Apr 3 2011 8:29PM
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Blake.P
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really the ON3P j-mo sounds like a perfect ski for him
Apr 3 2011 8:56PM
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J.S.
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surface watch life
Apr 3 2011 9:42PM
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tall_t
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the suspect will be good for him even though its salomon
Apr 4 2011 9:38AM
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Ghini
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4FRNT MSP?
Moment Tahoe?
Apr 4 2011 10:07AM
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wintersway
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volkl wall - stiff, lighter than the public enemy for sure, and durable. especially if he doesnt hit rails much. i just skied on basically frozen snowballs after it rained and then got cold and i was still able to hold an edge for the most part and chop through anything i hit. combined with those conditions, i have completely rounded edges underfoot because ive had them for two seasons now. volkl is well known for their torsionally stiff skis, so they wont twist and lose their edge when you hit a chunk of frozen shit.

k2 extreme - (from reviews) very close the public enemy if he wants a very similar ski. when the PE was discontinued, the extreme showed up with close dimensions, sidecut, and flex.

on3p jeronimo - (from reviews)
Apr 4 2011 10:29AM
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stickerman
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Thanks for the review! How does the wall float in fresh? Where should they be mounted?
Apr 4 2011 11:00AM
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schism
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walls won't float well luke, they're symmetrical skis, so true center.


Instead of spins go for distorters, same ski as the spin, but more all mountain design flex and what not.


does he spin on jumps?
Apr 4 2011 11:39AM
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stickerman
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yeah the ocaisonal 360, but on nothing bigger then like 30 footers.
Apr 4 2011 2:57PM
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stickerman
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any more suggestions? pretty set on getting the distorders/spins!
Apr 4 2011 9:05PM
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benyannelli
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I would say line sir francis bacon but he said he likes stiff. mayb like volkl gotama or bridge
Apr 4 2011 11:19PM
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Pipe_Munky
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Volkl Bridges.

Great all mountain ski with some rocker for when there's a little fresh or some nasty elephant snot in the spring.
Apr 5 2011 9:22AM
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alexg1687
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k2 extreme for sure! Forget for a moment that its a twinnie..its a bloody good all mountain ski in its own right
Apr 5 2011 9:58AM
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Mr_pretzel
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http://www.untracked.com/p3033c51b37lr-Froogle-10_k2_extreme_skis_w_marker_griffon_schizofrantic_bindings.html
Apr 5 2011 10:03AM
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stickerman
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How stiff are they? And to the guy that posted the extremes, are those bindings that come with them any good?
Apr 5 2011 10:46AM
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Mr_pretzel
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Guessing that your dad doesn't charge that hard yes, they would be fine.

If he does charge meh. They could still work.
Apr 5 2011 10:49AM
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stickerman
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Awesome thanks for the response! Keep them coming!
Apr 5 2011 11:00AM
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Beez
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not really true twins but my dad loves his volkl kendos he skis about the same as your dad except for the jumpline part
Apr 5 2011 12:09PM
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Mr_pretzel
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Plus you could always just sell the bindings and get other ones if they dont work out.


I am also going to recommend the bridge. Fun ski, nice and stiff.
Apr 5 2011 12:20PM
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steep
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on3p j'mos i think would fit him the best!

or you can try the line blend
Apr 5 2011 1:03PM
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steep
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on3p j'mos i think would fit him the best!

or you can try the line blend
Apr 5 2011 1:03PM
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stickerman
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I was looking at the blend a couple days ago. What's the flex like? Durability?
Apr 5 2011 1:04PM
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Twig
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Volkl Bridge would be my pick. Especially if you can find the non-rockered version from a year or two ago. Stiff, carve trenches, still wide enough for a little pow (waay better than PEs/Extremes IMHO).
Apr 5 2011 1:35PM
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rudager
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My dad is has a pair of older model seths, along with Bacons.
He's about your dad's size. I'd suggest something like a 189 K2 Kung Fujas? 186 Line Prophet 100? 188 K2 Hardside? 188 K2 Sidestash? 188 Moment Tahoe?

My suggestion would be the 189 Kung Fujas though
Apr 5 2011 3:19PM
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ace_
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all of these are better options than the bridge or wall which are just terrible ideas. 189 fujas 186 prophet would be killer

is there any way to demo skis?
Apr 5 2011 3:49PM
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nagelthebagel
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Line Prophet 90 http://lineskis.com/skis/prophet-90
Apr 5 2011 4:13PM
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RudyGarmisch
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J-mos are sold out for the year, but presale on next years skis will start in less than two weeks.
Apr 5 2011 5:00PM
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84891jnf92048
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line makea durable skis, but if you want stiff, the blend is out. fairly stiff underfoot, but soft as hell in the tip and tail.
Apr 5 2011 5:18PM
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zahava
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Tottally forgot about those. Volkl Mantra's would also be good but their not twin tips.
Apr 5 2011 7:31PM
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84891jnf92048
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look at gotamas, as well.

they are a bit wider, have ELP rocker (very low, gradual rocker, just like the bridge, with no flat spot, but they stil rip groomers) and they have a bit of a twin tip. not to mention, they are quite stiff.
Apr 5 2011 7:43PM
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stickerman
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awesom! will take a look for sure!
Apr 5 2011 7:54PM
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budda
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kung fujas, they are a really versitile ski, you can pretty much do anything that you want with them, from shredin the pow to hittin up with groomers and treckin the cat tracks, really good all mtn ski
Apr 5 2011 8:23PM
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benyannelli
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They arent that stiff. my friend has them and i was doing some pretty big butters. K2 extremes are nice and the marker griffen schitzos are good too i guess. My friend got that same package and loves it
Apr 5 2011 9:21PM
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Chompo.
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k2 kung fujas
moment tahoe
volkl bridge
line blend

these are all versatile all mountain twin tips that sound good.
Apr 5 2011 9:52PM
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jscarpino
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moment tahoe for sure
Apr 6 2011 2:45PM
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Freestyle_Online
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Try looking at the Volkl Kendo. Stiff ski, not a true twin tip, but has a raised up tail. This is traditional flat mount ski. Light enough it wont weigh him down, but with the metal laminate construction, with full side wall, it has a ton of energy. Nice and wide so the ski will handle the pow-pow well. This was one of our favorite non traditional all mountain ski this year and we couldn't keep it in stock. That and they just have this really cool look.(top sheet graphic) Dont let the fact that it is not a true twin tip, I rode the ski switch all the time, tho not over any jumps, I dont trust my self to land backwards on any ski. If you can find these skis left, eat them up....great ski!
Apr 6 2011 4:56PM
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stickerman
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what do you guys think of the ninthward firstbloods?
Apr 7 2011 5:57PM
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.nasty
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my dad throroughly enjoy skiing my surface watch lifes (182). He can shred bumps and do smaller airs and he says they carve like a dream, like a gs ski.
Apr 7 2011 6:06PM
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mrs.jib
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i heard surface one lifes where really good, they are pow skiis but on of my friends has them and we live on the east coast and he says there amazing on jumps.
Apr 7 2011 6:49PM
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schism
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luke if your dad gets ninthwards i will have a good chuckle.

I like the idea of the tahoe's. i'd vote for that, or watch lifes for the wider skis.
Apr 7 2011 8:51PM
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stickerman
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Why shall you chucle? Are they the $250
Apr 7 2011 9:10PM
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MothaHucker
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my dad has prophet flites and loves them
Apr 7 2011 9:29PM
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zahava
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cus ninth is the g-est of gansta-ski companies. Its kinda like the technine of ski companies.
Apr 7 2011 10:33PM
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pinhead_larry
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If he wants rocker, look at the 2011 Volkl Bridge.
Apr 7 2011 10:37PM
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