hmm okay sweet thanks that help a ton.
well yeah i am looking at both top end products ( primed suit and gibson/JP auclair suit )
the one thing i noticed about the orage is that they have the silicon lining on the bottom of the pants so you dont rip them up with your edges and also on the shoulders for carrying them i guess, but then again i could also just sew on that bulletproof nylon material onto the primed suit.
+++ karma by the way much appreciated