Member of the Month

KilaTsunami
October, 2024

Online

Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!

Thank you, Mr. Moore.

profile picture
teneighty_skier22
Posts: 2097 - Karma: 11
By Richard Morin and Claudia Deane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, July 13, 2004; 1:02 PM


Despite growing fears that the United States is losing the war on terrorism, President Bush has reclaimed the advantage over his Democratic challenger John F. Kerry as the presidential candidate best able to deal with the international terrorist threat, according to the latest Washington Post poll.

The survey found that 55 percent of all Americans currently approve of the way Bush is handling the campaign against terrorism, up 5 points in the past three weeks. Slightly more than half -- 51 percent -- also said they trust Bush more than Kerry to deal with terrorism

Three weeks, huh? Seems to me some movie came out three weeks ago. It's pretty cool that a lot of American can recognize bull shit and looked for the truth about the war.

The rest of this story can be found on washingtonpost.com

________________
-Jeff

Bush '04
Jul 13 2004 4:59PM
0 0
profile picture
Raek
Posts: 2378 - Karma: 14
^hahaha he is fat and ugly... he interviewd my mom and was bashin her what a piece of shit






no snow..
no girls..
no future..
Snowfall dictates the days activities if its snowing do it another day...
Jul 13 2004 9:21PM
0 0
profile picture
SmoKinSkier
Posts: 5501 - Karma: 20
Well from what i see out of this thread and i dont hold deeply to it becuase i think all polls are bogus in some sense though they give an idea.
But the movie was supposed to be an eye opener and show the Americna ppl what an evil person Bush was all this is sayin is that Moore did a poor job if the polls do not reflect a change.(though i dont necisarilly agree i think that was the point).






Pete is currently sulking around Mt. Hood, shooting with Poor Boyz Productions and hitting on Kristi Leskinen. She hates guys, Pete lamented, so it’s not going good. Apparently Canada isn’t the only thing that’s tough for Pete to get into.
-kamikaze
Jul 14 2004 12:08AM
0 0
profile picture
misterbinz
Posts: 1099 - Karma: 10
atlwutever - 'think the tax cuts Bush did really helped people spend more money and that made the economy better'

I come from a fairly wealthy family and i think that my parents got about a 500 dollar tax break. We obviously were able to contribute to stimulating the economy with that 500 dollars. Come on, the only people that could actually do anything with their tax breaks are the CEO's of huge companies that just increase their salary some more.

'its not rape....its surprise sex. you wake up and SURPRISE you had sex with me haha' - huckster989

'Everyday the biased scum-of-the-earth imbecile that is Bill O'Reilly never ceases to amaze me with his overall idiocy and lack of grey cells between his ears.' - trevorwoulddoit
Jul 14 2004 12:21AM
0 0
profile picture
wilkesyachtingco
Posts: 4425 - Karma: 41
we all know that polls are not always accurate, and we all know, well, let me rephrase, some of us know a logical fallacy when we see one, but, mind you, that doesnt mean that its not right... its really just incolclusive, and probably not really worth bringing up.

most of us know that moore is fat, and has an aversion to shaving, and those of us with brains know what he is, and take it at that. my real problem is with the moore worship that occurs invariably in these threads. it falls along the same lines as getting your political insight from the fat wreck chords newsletter. for crying out loud. stop it. just stop it right now, you vile swinherding, moore kissing clones. (because that is what you are when you regurgitate and spew the bile that you have been spoon fed... nothing but CLONES. enough.

















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside
Jul 14 2004 12:24AM
0 0
profile picture
J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,142
^Actually, even in the left wing cult, the general consensus is that he should be taken with a grain of salt. Stop generalizing. (Yeah, I know you aren't trying anymore these days)

------------
In a haze
A stormy haze
I’ll be around
I’ll be loving you
Always
Always

Here I am
And I’ll take my time
Here I am
And I’ll wait in line
Always
Always...
Jul 14 2004 12:27AM
0 0
profile picture
wilkesyachtingco
Posts: 4425 - Karma: 41
or a lick of salt... a salt lick you might say.















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside
Jul 14 2004 12:28AM
0 0
profile picture
Crystal-needs-a~park
Posts: 9 - Karma: 10
i was just kiddin up there, bush is aight.



You know the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

once back when i was a fetus i was aborted. it didn't hurt at all, but i was also high on life at the time. - thisangelicrage
Smuggs has a good point. Julia Roberts tried eating me when i was an orphan, but i bit her toe off, so she left me alone. - misterbinz
its not rape....its surprise sex. you wake up and SURPRISE you had sex with me haha - huckster989
Jul 14 2004 12:29AM
0 0
profile picture
wilkesyachtingco
Posts: 4425 - Karma: 41
whered your posts go man?















Mercy's eyes are blue
When she places them in front of you
Nothing holds a roman candle to
The solemn warmth you feel inside
Jul 14 2004 12:33AM
0 0
profile picture
J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,142
Haha... you might as well give up, noone's buying it unless you make a cult and spam up 6000 posts. (would that work?)

------------
In a haze
A stormy haze
I’ll be around
I’ll be loving you
Always
Always

Here I am
And I’ll take my time
Here I am
And I’ll wait in line
Always
Always...
Jul 14 2004 12:34AM
0 0
profile picture
SkiSundownJibber
Posts: 1013 - Karma: 19
Misterbinz, you actually have it backwards. The extra money doesn't make a difference to CEOs and the like, because they're already living below their means. They have no need to spend an extra 500 dollars, because an extra 500 dollars means nothing to them. They tend to just put the money into savings.
To middle and lower income people, however, a few hundred dollars might pay for a months rent, a needed car repair, or any number of other consumer goods. Interestingly (but not surprisingly, in retrospect) about 40% of the money recieved from tax cuts thus far has gone to paying off credit card debt. Those that oppose the tax cut would tell you that paying credit card debt doesn't help stimulate anything, but I disagree: by paying off your credit card debt, you free up money to spend on other consumer goods.

Even if I'm wrong, though, there's still 600 billion dollars worth of stimulus at work here, which is enough to have some positive impact on an approximately 2.7 billion dollar annual consumer expenditure (I believe).



From the desk of Mr. S.S. Jibber
Jul 14 2004 12:39AM
0 0
profile picture
J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,142
^The point he was after was that when one is a rich exec, one gets a much bigger tax cut, and is able to raise one's income substantially. Do the rich need it? No. But I still don't see CEOs cutting their salaries just because they aren't using all that money.

------------
In a haze
A stormy haze
I’ll be around
I’ll be loving you
Always
Always

Here I am
And I’ll take my time
Here I am
And I’ll wait in line
Always
Always...
Jul 14 2004 12:43AM
0 0
profile picture
SkiSundownJibber
Posts: 1013 - Karma: 19
What the shit does this have to do with necessity?



From the desk of Mr. S.S. Jibber
Jul 14 2004 12:47AM
0 0
profile picture
SkiSundownJibber
Posts: 1013 - Karma: 19
Also, CEOs do tend to cut their salaries during recessions. The average compensation for a CEO of a major coroporation fell to just above 8 million in 2003, for example. Idle funds in the private equity industry fell from like 118 billion to 40 billion, because fund managers felt like they were being compensated for money they had no ability or intention to invest. The incentive for wealthy execs is to make more money, whether or not they intend to spend it on a new ferrari.



From the desk of Mr. S.S. Jibber
Jul 14 2004 12:51AM
0 0
profile picture
SkiSundownJibber
Posts: 1013 - Karma: 19
Furthermore, the point of the tax cut was, primarily, to stimulate the economy, so the goal was really to give money back to whomever was most likely to spend it, not to whomever needed it. This particular tax cut does appear to be having some positive effect, which we know because consumer spending is on the rise. Unfortunately, we can't know for sure whether or not this rise is directly related to the tax cut, or whether it's merely a reflection of increasing consumer confidence for other reasons.



From the desk of Mr. S.S. Jibber
Jul 14 2004 12:54AM
0 0
profile picture
J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,142
^I think that was the initial point... it seems to make sense that average joe will spend his tax cut, so when he doesn't get much, there isn't much to put into the economy. Meanwhile, the rich get richer and have no need to spend this extra money on consumer goods. They already have more than they need, and could easily spend that on whatever they wished. That was what was being argued. Fairly simplistic. Is there a logical flaw there? I dont' know. Not an economist.

------------
In a haze
A stormy haze
I’ll be around
I’ll be loving you
Always
Always

Here I am
And I’ll take my time
Here I am
And I’ll wait in line
Always
Always...
Jul 14 2004 1:02AM
0 0
profile picture
huckster989
Posts: 2147 - Karma: 12
well as much of a majority that 55% is that support his terror campaign in the polls of both a 2 and 3 party race Kerry is leading after having picked edwards as his running mate so ....suck it bush
the magazine is called 'POWDER' cool! - my stupid non-skiing friend
Jul 14 2004 2:16AM
0 0
profile picture
bigJ
Posts: 3148 - Karma: 10
Stop bitching about Bush and schools, because, believe it or not, it is not a federal issue!!! Was that a surprise? Presidents go around talking about education like they can do anything about it, they talk about it because people want to hear that there president will make better schools. Education is a state issue, it is something that needs to be considered when electing a State official and not a federal one. The president is not powerless, he does have the power to get some education initiatives past, but really it is an issue that falls under state jurisdiction.


Politicaly Active Since 1992

Drivin that Train
Jul 14 2004 7:07AM
0 0
profile picture
ScratchCobra66
Posts: 3688 - Karma: 11
yes thank you micheal moore, for proving your communistic values, and proving that you truly hate this country.






Listen to Bob Marley.
Jul 14 2004 8:54AM
0 0
profile picture
lalalalaura
Posts: 6753 - Karma: 68
i will lose all faith in America if they vote Bush back into presidency. Seriously, how could ANYONE still trust that guy? and on another note, what kind of idiots need michael moore's movie to realize bush is a fucking idiot?
____________________
rex thomas asked to blow his nose on my doo-rag once.
Jul 14 2004 11:07AM
0 0
profile picture
Simon_Dumont
Posts: 147 - Karma: 10
i actually just watched a little thing on the movie, and in it moore was like right after the war, bush and the government are trying to scare us and making us believe all these bad things about saddam and terrorrists, what the fuck is he talking about, when they run a plane into buildings and kill many americans damn right we should be scared and ready to take action, and they portray bush as bad because he goes fishing and golfs, yeah he has a life too, why cant he fish, moore is an idiot, a fat idiot.



DO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS LARRY, DO YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FUCK A STRANGER IN THE ASS, YOUR KILLING YOUR FATHER LARRY
Jul 14 2004 11:27AM
0 0
profile picture
Raek
Posts: 2378 - Karma: 14
alright^ i agree with you just that im sorry but no fucken jihadist is going to go to the middle of oklahoma or wherever it is and blow up the place... why the fuck would they do that they cant blend in at all






no snow..
no girls..
no future..
Snowfall dictates the days activities if its snowing do it another day...
Jul 14 2004 1:39PM
0 0
profile picture
Ice-Is-Scary
Posts: 0 - Karma: 87
Well my dad pays 33% of his year income straight to taxes another 20% on malpractice insurance and buy the time he gets hit by state taxes hes lots 60% of his income to pay for a few welfare families who hate white people. I think the rich do get taxes too damn much. I know after 33% federal bracket theres a 50% bracket. You guys dont think thats kinda fucked up?


God is an American.
Jul 14 2004 1:43PM
0 0
profile picture
ScratchCobra66
Posts: 3688 - Karma: 11
^Too bad this has always happened, and it will get worse if kerry gets into office






Listen to Bob Marley.
Jul 14 2004 1:49PM
0 0
profile picture
rhcp
Posts: 2598 - Karma: 18
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm Another point of view on Moores film.
-----------------------------------------------

'I am so smart, I am so smart. S-M-R-T, wait no, S-M-A-R-T!'
Jul 14 2004 2:00PM
0 0
profile picture
Ice-Is-Scary
Posts: 0 - Karma: 87
doesnt work


God is an American.
Jul 14 2004 2:01PM
0 0
profile picture
bigJ
Posts: 3148 - Karma: 10
here is a good one too
I am reading it now and so far it is pretty good, and believe it or not, it is bi-partisan, because everyone should hate this man.


Politicaly Active Since 1992

Drivin that Train
Jul 14 2004 2:03PM
0 0
profile picture
rhcp
Posts: 2598 - Karma: 18
copy and paste the url and it will work. i must have messed up on the link.
-----------------------------------------------

'I am so smart, I am so smart. S-M-R-T, wait no, S-M-A-R-T!'
Jul 14 2004 2:44PM
0 0
All times are Eastern (-5)