bring it.

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not everyhing is Clinton's fault, but a lot of people in this country, especially the media, balme Bush for problems that Clinton could have prevented and solved.

Yes, I think that too many people blame Bush.

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how about... fuck you. how cool would it be if you went up to your local ski hill next year and there were no trees left there because bush allowed the national forrests to be logged out? and how cool is texas, the most polluted state in teh country?
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Jul 13 2004 5:09PM

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uh, I donn't think Bush is hat loose about his environmental policies. Allowing logging in Natioanl Forests isn't the end of the world.

Jul 13 2004 5:11PM

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90% of the places i go backpacking are in national forest land. i don't want them to log them out. i could care less about the timber industry. fuck you, bush has reversed almost every environmental policy enacted in the last decade. fuck him and fuck you.
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Jul 13 2004 5:16PM

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why dont you care if there are no trees left? Do you also not believe in global warming? less trees equals hotter planet eaquals shorter winter equals shitty snow

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Hahahaha... there's a reason Anewmorning dissasociated himself from that list, it's exceedingly fallacious and deceptive in its manner of wording things. Hey, I can do it too, watch:

Clinton illegally cheats on his wife, causing shock.
Bush Illegally wages war, causing shellshock (you know, aside from the dismemberment, etc).

Clinton lies about his personal life, many people are shocked.
Bush lies about reasons for going to war, many people are dead.

Rich Democratic supporters make rude puns.
Rich Bush supporters publicly behead the political opposition.

Clinton commits perjury, showing disrespect for the law.
Bush alleges that he can interpret law as he sees fit during wartime, and that no court can question him, making a mockery of the idea of law.

And on, and on, and on. Again, the fact that this sort of thing is comelling to anyone gives us a rather good indication that almost everyone on here needs a crash course in logical argument.

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Jul 13 2004 5:19PM

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Whats the difference ignorant campers and backpacers are goin to end up burning down half those forests n e way mise well get some profit and use out of them!

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Jul 13 2004 5:20PM

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you guys could buy wood fro mus canadians, but for some reason the US has imposed some restrictions that make it unworth it to sell to the US. that list sounded a little off to me, i personally don't see how some of those things can be good or bad. They are just events and someone declaring something cannot be judged, but their actions can be.

Jul 13 2004 5:22PM

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Crystal needs a park you make bush out to be the end of the environment. Sure hes pushing to changfe some regulation on the clean air act. BUT... some of the regulations are ridiclous plants having to pump out water into the rivers so steralized that it is 100% cleaner than the water its pumping into. Waste water not being able to have more than 7 ppm iron in it when the dirt its pouring into has 100's. Im totally pro- enivornment but the clean air act is pretty old and needs to be revised. There are plenty of more evil anti-environmentalists than Bush. I did a report on Utahs enviornment to learn the governor was opening lots of protected lands to logging and polluted industries. Granted not all bush's environmental policies are fantastic but most arn't bad at all. You people need a new scapegoat honestly

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Jul 13 2004 5:30PM

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yeah, crystalneeds..., you think that since Bush allows logging in Nat'l forest, that they are going to cut every single tree down until there are none left. That's real intelligent.(sarcasim) You are blowing it way out of proportion. ^ is right, you really need a new scapegoat.

Oh and as far as global warming goes, it is natural. The earth has a tendancy to increase or decrease tempetures. That is why there are ice ages. We can't do much about global warming, and we aren't causing it, so stop whining.

Jul 13 2004 6:28PM

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just to let you know, i hate both of you. now with that logically proufond beginning of an argumnet... i disagree with everything both of you just said. i'm not sure about the exact sites youve mentioned with factories having to 'overclean' waste... but i would bet that the places they are dumping into are already heavily polluted and will only change with something 100% better. and even if thats not true, we've fucked up enough natural resources to make that a more than acceptable cost. to ATLredneckfuckhead... several scientists, advising bush stated that global warming is real and that our continued addition to it is causing real problems. But then the findings were pushed aside. you've got nothing. you are an ignorant, stupid person and i hope you are stricken with herpes, testicular cancer, aids, whatever is needed to stop you from having children.
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Jul 13 2004 6:57PM

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^ I hope you dont use electricity from coal burning powerplants or drive a car ever you fucking piece of shit your melting all the damn icecaps you contradicting confused little man

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Jul 13 2004 7:01PM

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Jul 13 2004 7:02PM

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i ride my bike as much as possible and as far as i know washington runs on mostly hydroelectric and some nulear power...
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Jul 13 2004 7:09PM

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^ I imagine you don't use any products manufactured in plants that pollute either...

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Jul 13 2004 7:15PM

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while I think we should be using more nuclear power we still have to figure out how to clean the waste indefinetly

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Jul 13 2004 7:16PM

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at least im trying, assholes
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Jul 13 2004 7:18PM

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'ATLredneckfuckhead... several scientists, advising bush stated that global warming is real and that our continued addition to it is causing real problems. But then the findings were pushed aside. you've got nothing. you are an ignorant, stupid person and i hope you are stricken with herpes, testicular cancer, aids, whatever is needed to stop you from having children'

Yes you ignorant, contridictory, asshole, our continued attention to global warming is causing problems. Our continued attention to it causes people to blow it way out of proportion, so they think that if we don't do anything about it, we will all die. Yes Crystalneedsabirthcontrolpillbecauseitsthattimeofthemonth, YOU have nothing, because your last post didnt say anything. And did I ever say glaobal warming wasn't real? NO

Jul 13 2004 7:20PM

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make that your 2nd to last post, the one that was quoted

Jul 13 2004 7:22PM

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ahahaha the world def blames bush too much..half of the shit is clintons fault....and bush is a great leader and jd....you dont even live in the us so you shouldnt be talking

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Jul 13 2004 7:32PM

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but i disagree with bush about logging and shit....he should do more for the environment....stop logging in national forests and make it so all cars have to be below 1 on the environmetnal freindly scale unless its a military vehicle

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Jul 13 2004 7:35PM

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The majority of people who argue against bush dont even live in this country. Is your country that boring that you cant find something to talk about other than your neighbors?

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Jul 13 2004 7:35PM

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I know more about American politics than half the people in your country, and I take classes in world politics. You're 14. I think I'm perfectly able to make these judgements... and you sound a bit hypocritical seeing as how your president is allowed to install the governments of other countries. But by that logic, Americans are no longer allowed to talk about or interfere in other countries' affairs... Although I suppose it would help the republican cause during this election if noone discussed Iraq.

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Jul 13 2004 7:38PM

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Well I seriously doubt that Canada is at risk for American take over considering your our biggest trade partner in the world. so you can sleep tight at night and mind your business. Everyone but canadians are at risk therefore can discuss American politics

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Jul 13 2004 7:41PM

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Yes, because as long as you don't invade, there's nothing you could possibly do that could make any sort of difference to me or my country. Also, I really don't care about anyone but myself, so international crimes victimizing other people really don't bother me, because it just isn't my business. Think before you post.

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Jul 13 2004 7:44PM

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Well do you guys think 'educating' 14 year olds online is going to make a difference? Think before you post.

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Jul 13 2004 7:45PM

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Thankfully, my posts are not for the edification of 14 year olds who form arbitrary opinions based on nothing. Nice straw man though, you almost put that one by on me. No wait, you didn't. When did I say I was trying to teach 14 year olds about anything?

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Jul 13 2004 7:48PM

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Well by complaining on a skiing website who's average users age would prolly be in the realm of 12-16 years old about American politics exactly who are you trying to educate?

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Jul 13 2004 7:55PM

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First of all, the purpose of a debate isn't to educate anyone. Secondly, did it occur to you that just because the average age might be 16, that there are, in fact, others here? Aren't you older than that? What's your thought process looking like on this one... 'He posts on NS... people who are 16 can read his posts on NS... he must be targeting those people.' Well, no. I'm not targeting anyone.

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Jul 13 2004 7:56PM

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No I'm saying the majority of people you debate with are 16.

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Jul 13 2004 7:57PM

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About the lumber tax: Bush's taxing of our lumber is based on the fact that 'it's not fair' that the whole north of our country is owned by the country, therefore anyone can chop wood off (of course, this is a very, very large summarization of the regulations of wood-chopping, etc...), so he taxes our wood so that it costs so much more for us to export and our companies close, leaving many jobless, etc.

Technically, if we would work on this 'it's not fair' system, we could tax every agricutural product that is produced in winter (i.e in Florida and California) that we can't during that period, because 'it's not fair' that we have a longer winter, and every agricultural product that we just can't produce (oranges, for instance) in mass numbers because of of our geography and climate. Sounds so dumb, but that's what Bush did.
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Jul 13 2004 7:58PM

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clintons felonies in office werent good

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Reagan calls bin Laden a 'freedom fighter' = good...
Clinton has an affair = REALLY bad...
Bush says 'There ought to be limits to freedom' (pre 9/11, by the way) = good...
Bush says 'you can't get fooled again' = bad...
Bush says 'some call you the elite, I call you my base' = good...
Bush declares war on Iraq with less-than-trustworthy evidence = good...
Bush says Saddam DOESN'T have nukes = good...
Bush says Saddam MIGHT have nukes = good...
Bush says Saddam DOES have nukes = good...

Now I'M confused.

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