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Air game vs rail game

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Phog.
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i have a pretty good rail game, but what i can do off jumps is really shitty. anyone else feel this way?
Mar 24 2011 8:52PM
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GreenStezz
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I remember my first repost..........................
Mar 24 2011 8:54PM
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Algebra
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yep. thats what the east coast does to you. altho i have progressed alot in jumps this year

Mar 24 2011 8:55PM
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Blurst
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Any person can fucking hop around on a rail. In most cases you have to be a decent skier to have the air sense to do well on jumps. I know there are exceptions but that is what I have generally noticed.
Mar 24 2011 8:56PM
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Blurst
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To be honest I actually hate jibber kids who only slide rails.
Mar 24 2011 8:59PM
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ajbski
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haha,you need a good balance in everything.

" i like to see a skier that do pillow lines and then go to a big park shoot and hit jumps and then go to a city and slide rails..." - Tanner hall every day is a Saturday. ( may have reworrded it. soorrrrrrry i dont have it memerized)
Mar 24 2011 9:03PM
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BigJew
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I'm the opposite. Always hit jumps instead of rails.
Mar 24 2011 9:04PM
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[evan]
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U kNoW liKeY ToooM WAllIScH??????!!!!???
Mar 24 2011 9:06PM
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Imagination
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Are you kidding me? It's more or less the exact opposite.

And I agree with Tanner Hall, that's what I try to do.
Mar 24 2011 9:07PM
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Happy.
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Being a decent skiier != having air sense, that's why they can take washed up gymnasts and turn them into aerials skiiers. Having the balance and awareness to hop around on a small metal bar isn't something anyone can just decide to do. Rails also require very good control of your skis to edge correctly and for taps and such. Jumping is by no means easy, but saying that rails aren't difficult is kind of stupid.
Mar 24 2011 9:08PM
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GayWolf420
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Air sense is pretty hard to get good at. Not to mention you have to get past mental blocks when it comes to hitting jumps. Its not nearly as scary when it comes to rails.
Mar 24 2011 9:14PM
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ajbski
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the mental blocks are there for all bigg features.

every one is scared when hitting their first 40' step down

and

every one is scared when hitting their first double kink.

Mar 24 2011 9:18PM
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GayWolf420
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Eh not really. Once you get used to hitting downrails, kink boxes and such, the double kinks come like easy. Just taking a kink rail and adding a 2nd kink. Not that hard.
Mar 24 2011 9:21PM
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ajbski
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im sorry tom wallisch, i didnt know youre the best in the world.

haha ;)

i was just trying to say somthing. GOD! hah
Mar 24 2011 9:23PM
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Jimmy.
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I can rodeo but can't blind 270..
Mar 24 2011 9:27PM
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SKIU4EA
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Both take lots of skill to learn.  Repitition and experience are what make rail / jump tricks look clean and smooth.  whether it's a floating mute 3 or a 2 on to a dfd.

Mar 24 2011 9:52PM
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monkatizer
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rails are esier to get comfortable on cause u can hit em in ur backyard and shit, but jumps i think are harder
Mar 24 2011 9:56PM
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Gondaire
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I suck at both does that count
Mar 24 2011 9:56PM
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adamlukowski
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Not at all for me. When you've gotten a lot of injuries you start to get really scared of things, and get paranoid.

Mar 24 2011 9:59PM
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.Max.
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Yeah... I suck at both... The closest I can get to flips is a blunt cork 7, and the hardest rail trick I can do is either a disaster 4 on a box or a super fed on a wide dfd rail.

But I don't really care weather air or rails is cooler. I go out to have fun.
Mar 24 2011 10:04PM
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broto
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Mar 24 2011 10:07PM
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ajbski
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how do you suck?!?!?
sounds like your a bowsss ( boss with that awesome prenounciation)
Mar 24 2011 10:07PM
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JStrathern
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Rollerbladers pretty much can.. similar to how gymnasts can be good at jumps
Mar 24 2011 10:10PM
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Heart
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for me, jumps are so much easier. just sack up and do whatever it is you wanna learn. crashing on a 40 foot jump isn't that bad if its a nice steep landing (assuming you arent inverted)
Mar 24 2011 10:13PM
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.Max.
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Haha it's all relative. The way I see it, there are 12 year olds stomping dub corks all day and there's no way to compare to that. Like I said though. I go out to have fun and that's all I really care about.
Mar 24 2011 10:14PM
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SirFryanator
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same here. I can barely spin on and off rails but I'm proud of my jump skills
Mar 24 2011 10:14PM
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Triple_Strum
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Neither one requires being a good skier. At all. I bet you that you could take the men's US Olympic gymnast team and they would be throwing doubles with a year of straight skiing even if they had never strapped on sticks before.

Now good skiing on the other hand, takes time to learn.
Mar 24 2011 10:14PM
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tribefan226
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its ok we hate you too
Mar 24 2011 10:16PM
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EmperorKuzco
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That was me at the beginning of the year because last season i drastically improved my rail game, and this year I've been really pushing jumps to balance it out
Mar 24 2011 10:30PM
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Wesley.P
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haha im a fucking pipe junkie
Mar 24 2011 10:55PM
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Emma_Watson
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I feel it's the other way around. Everyone can throw off jumps, and rarely nut up to hit stuff on rails..
Mar 24 2011 10:57PM
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Ilovewhitestuff
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this is the same with me and my friends we almost avoid jumps on purpose.
Mar 24 2011 10:58PM
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jeR.
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that's totally false. i would have believed you like 6-7 years ago, but park skiing is at a level that is equivalent if not better at training kids how to ski than any other discipline. Candide won the FWT he's a park skier. and gymnast would not be able to carve lips, ski switch at all, or understand the nuances of style. i think rails and jumps both require good balance edge control, proper stance/vision, air awareness, and style... these are the aspects of a good skier and can be applied to any discipline. I can do much more on rails, i think being a rail nerd is legit if you can still throw at least some steezy shit on big jumps.
Mar 24 2011 11:47PM
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95959
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This is stupid. You are stupid.
Mar 24 2011 11:50PM
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JBlend
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I'm assuming you've never owned a trampoline.
Mar 24 2011 11:57PM
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zues
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depends what the person is comfortable with.... i don't ski many rails besides down and flats.. I feel more comfortable throwing a 360 off a 45 footer than hitting a down flat down.... also I have a much better rail skill compared to box skill. I think it depends on the individual.
Mar 25 2011 12:13AM
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-Marc-
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I think if you focus more on jumps rails come kind of naturally. I'm not that good at either, but I mostly hit jumps this year and at the end of the day a few times I started hitting the rails and surprised myself that I was actually decent at them and could do switch ups and 2s on and such, and hadn't really tried any of it before. That being said though, I'm more scared of rails than I am jumps, never really hurt myself badly on a jump other than a concussion and hitting my face a couple times, snapped right through my humerus catching my edge on a little up down box
Mar 25 2011 1:22AM
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PON3
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i dont ski rails because i cant afford new skis every season. and i tried to hit them but they are hard. and i like my edges sharp.

but jumps are super easy. my 5th day of the season which i havent ridden in two years i hit a 25 ft no problem. just takes balls
Mar 25 2011 11:04AM
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ViktorVaughn
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Mar 25 2011 12:56PM
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pimpcat
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Less
Mar 25 2011 1:00PM
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GBS
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I fell the same. Im really good on rails, but i SUCK at jumps.. i can only do fronts, 360¨s both ways, right 540¨s and backies...
Mar 25 2011 1:20PM
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585.
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haha its funny because its false.
Mar 25 2011 1:29PM
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yojimbo
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i dunno rails scare the shit out of me way more than big jumps do. jumps are floaty and nice, rails are hard and break your teeth when you land on them with your face.

I also don't hit big jumps before march very often because they're too damn frozen god damn ice coast. but spring booters are one of my favorite parts of skiing.
Mar 25 2011 1:33PM
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Blurst
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Nope, I see more kids everyday that switch from snowboarding because skiing is cool now and they can slide rails and do witchups no problem.

Obviously aerials are an exception, park jumps, style of tricks and technicqque is not something a gymnast would just be able to pick up no problem.
Mar 25 2011 1:36PM
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585.
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sliding a rail on a snowboard is easier...you just get on straight
Mar 25 2011 1:58PM
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Blurst
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So... Obviously you did not see my point of anyone being able to sesh a backyard rail all summer and then come to the hill and go straight and do the same stuff.
Mar 25 2011 2:03PM
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Shenanigans
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So that just means that it can be easier to get better at rails because you can practice on them more, not that rails are inherently easier. If someone didn't have a summer setup and only skied during the regular season then it would be equally hard to get better at both jumps and rails.
Mar 25 2011 2:10PM
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585.
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i am so fucking confused
Mar 25 2011 2:11PM
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bpalmer
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i agree with your first point. there are tons of kids that can do all 4 ways 270 on pretz 270 out, but i feel like i see fewer and fewer kids that can do all 4 sevens with steeze.

but if you don't think gymnasts/aerialists can come and steal our steeze quick, you're so wrong. i remember one time back in the day (like 05-6 maybe?) the aerial team from squaw had a day off and just to be funny, they dressed all steezy and rolled through the park doing like trucked out cork 7's and shit. if you have the skill, you just gotta know what's dope to have dope style.
Mar 25 2011 2:25PM
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Blurst
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You are condused because you are one of the people that I am talking about
Mar 25 2011 2:26PM
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585.
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becuase you know me so well?
Mar 25 2011 2:43PM
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