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Sixtuple Meltdown??

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Jibbidy
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It certainly looks like it will happen. Right now they're trying to slow fission with water, which is futile. All 6 will partially or fully meltdown because once the first goes, there will be far too much radiation to fix the others. Fuck me.
Mar 16 2011 10:36PM
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inactive
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im not thinking about it
Mar 16 2011 10:41PM
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TheStamos
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So what happens if they all melt down? Abandon northern Japan for 100 years? This would destroy the countries entire economy. I'm pretty sure there is a ton of agriculture in northern japan, Prepare for an increase in food prices.It is not a small country....  Shits going to be out of control .
Mar 16 2011 10:52PM
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malonius_funk
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i'm scared
Mar 16 2011 10:56PM
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Coxworth
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zombie apocalypse
Mar 16 2011 10:56PM
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Lt-Aldo-Raine
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This is a really dumb idea I thought, but why not throw a ton of dry ice in there?
Mar 16 2011 10:56PM
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H8CH
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There is a certain air of inevitability about this now....

I mean, using helicopters to dump water onto a runaway train nuclear reaction smacks of desperation.

It's like pissing on a volcano....
Mar 16 2011 10:58PM
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malonius_funk
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what exactly would that do i'm curious?
Mar 16 2011 10:58PM
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ZavierV
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Because dry ice goes immediately from the frozen state to the gaseous state. Hence the name "dry ice".
Mar 16 2011 10:59PM
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ZavierV
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To further my post: it wouldn't do shit.
Mar 16 2011 11:00PM
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TheStamos
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Shit they should be dumpin 747's worth of water on that thing non stop . Spend whatever you have to for that thing. Send in CalFire and they will fix it.
Mar 16 2011 11:00PM
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Jibbidy
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Great idea although the cores are not so easily accessible. Bottom line, time is running the fuck out as it keeps getting hotter and more radioactive. But a radical, unconventional, feasible idea would be the only godsend.
Mar 16 2011 11:01PM
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Lt-Aldo-Raine
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welp, im out of ideas.
Mar 16 2011 11:01PM
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Jibbidy
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A top MIT prof already mentioned that when they were pumping seawater into the reactors, it indicated a desperate attempt to fix something very, very wrong.
Mar 16 2011 11:04PM
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turducken
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It's all good. hiroshima and nagasaki recovered all good from something similar....
Mar 16 2011 11:04PM
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Lt-Aldo-Raine
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What would happen if we bomb it? Absolute caos?
Mar 16 2011 11:04PM
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TheStamos
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uhg , 3rd largest economy in the world is about to shut down if this goes worst case. there has to be some sort of last ditch effort of some sort. Chain that shit up to a ship and pull it into the ocean or something ,drop  buckets of concrete on it dump millions o tons of lead ore on it.  fuck i don't know, im scared though..
Mar 16 2011 11:06PM
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.Duncan.
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except a 6 reactor meltdown is way worse.
Mar 16 2011 11:08PM
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H8CH
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Yup - because essentially the moment you use uninhibited seawater to cool a nuclear reactor, you simply fuck it up, it'll never be used again.... so to take a decision to effectively destroy a billion dollar plant must be last ditch..... the concrete containment vessels surround these cores are now essentially what's containing the madness - inside that, who knows what shit is going down....
Mar 16 2011 11:10PM
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Jibbidy
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Shut up and get educated. Those nukes were just radiation firecrackers compared to the radiation-spewing chimneys that the reactors are turning into.
Mar 16 2011 11:10PM
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Lt-Aldo-Raine
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And those brilliant people say we are in deep shit.
Mar 16 2011 11:10PM
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japanada
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Unfortunately, I think it's out of there control already. Like someone above said, pissing on a volcano. 3 and 4 are in bad shape, and the fallout from those would make contending with the other four a suicide mission. Its going to be a situation for a while now. I hope I am wrong. +++VIBES
Mar 16 2011 11:12PM
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jibnut
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I just want to know what it means for us here on the West Coast, or Hawaii/Alaska even?
Mar 16 2011 11:19PM
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lanny94
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i dont really have any idea. nuclear winter?
Mar 17 2011 12:14AM
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TheStamos
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Cooling something that is super hot very quickly is a terrible idea, + it will weaken everything else it touches that isnt warm or hot allready and make it much more brittle. I dont think it would do anything but harm.I dont think it would cool anything at all when it comes to the reactor.
Mar 17 2011 12:23AM
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lahnabonny
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this thread freaked me out. i can't even imagine what it's like being in japan right now. +vibes and prayers for all
Mar 17 2011 12:58AM
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shr@gler
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I fail to see the relevance.
Mar 17 2011 1:06AM
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kingcomet32
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found this in another thread, i know i know wall of text but its a decent read don't know the credability just figured id post it


From what i gathered things dont sound as bad as the media makes it, the reactors that reach a significant meltdown may be fucked for a while but it sounds like radiation will be well contained with the constant release of pressure and cooling by sea water and even if there is a core meltdown theres a third containment that would prevent complete nuclear radiation spread

i know its not a good situation but i think the media is overhyping this part of it and that most of our energy should be supporting the natural disaster victims while the experts do their best with this
Mar 17 2011 1:56AM
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TaySwift
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third times the charm ;) Click for larger image
Mar 17 2011 2:09AM
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TaySwift
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but in all seriousness, that shit needs to be fixed,
Mar 17 2011 2:10AM
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mommy
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it would actually be a sextuple meltdown
Mar 17 2011 2:18AM
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theabortionator
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My uncle has been getting interviewed on a bunch of things recently regarding the japan dealio. He's a nuclear science and some other shit professor at mit. CLAIM He's kind of a douche sometimes though.
Mar 17 2011 2:32AM
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--ski--
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Well 2012 is on the horizon, so we're all fucked anyway.
Mar 17 2011 5:05AM
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dylansiggers
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first 911, then japan exploding, now THIS

WERE DONE FOR
Mar 17 2011 10:53AM
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messplay
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it's been real guys. see you all on the flip <3

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Mar 17 2011 10:55AM
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hurrdurr
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shitshitshitshitshitshitshit
Mar 17 2011 10:57AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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This is one of the most challenging times in this planet's history. We are going to be pushed to our limits. Humans are amazing creatures capable of amazing things. It will be interesting to see how we respond to this.

However, I always take comfort in the thought that civilization is not needed for existence. If the world "ended" that would mean that the POLITICAL and civilized worlds would collapse. Not the entire world (unless the entire world literally lit on fire and exploded somehow haha). People have/do live using nothing but the natural world and their intelligence. We can too.
Mar 17 2011 11:00AM
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TonKwon
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Can someone explain this to me more in theory. I haven't read up much on this and i'm uneducated about what's going on.
Mar 17 2011 11:02AM
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lineskier10
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wow i am for once glad that i live on the east coast
Mar 17 2011 11:08AM
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T.DUB
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chernobyl didnt... this is going to be worse than chernobyl and it is located more closely to a dense population
Mar 17 2011 11:12AM
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fujarome
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fake image


http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/fallout.asp
Mar 17 2011 11:12AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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Listen to NPR for an hour and you will be extremely well-informed.
Mar 17 2011 11:14AM
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kingcomet32
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world spins from west to east, this would have to assume a massive wind force to counter act the spin and bring it across the entire pacific
Mar 17 2011 11:16AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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hahahahahahahaha this is SUCH a hoax. Let's see more credible source than a shittly made map with no credibility. Most experts concur that a nuclear disaster would result in very very little fallout here in America.
Mar 17 2011 11:26AM
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kootenayklaus
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I'm no expert on radiation, but 750 RADS seems like a shitload to be exposed to.
Mar 17 2011 11:33AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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Yeah. Technically, radiation will be detectable anywhere in the world for a while after. But the chances that those radiation levels will pose health risks are low (other than Japan obviously).

People should for sure be concerned about Japan because of this whole situation, but to say that it will shut the country down is quite dramatic. The big-time media loves to feed off of disasters as you all know and they also love to go deep into the worst case scenario.

Like I said, listen to NPR if you guys want a good idea of what's going on. You will get the opinion of a whole panel of experts. Sometimes their opinions differ, so you are free to make your own conclusions from the great amount of info you are given.
Mar 17 2011 11:37AM
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eldridge
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gtfo with this bullshit map made to scare people
Mar 17 2011 11:38AM
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lahnabonny
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fake image is fake.
Mar 17 2011 12:54PM
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1337
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itt: uninformed uneducated idiots
Mar 17 2011 1:00PM
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shocker611
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I REALLY hate to say this, but wont this do a lot for the US economy? I know Im a shitty person for even thinkin bout it but with the 3rd largest producer shut down doesnt someone need to pick up the slack?
Mar 17 2011 1:03PM
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ONTerriible
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just so you know t there is no reaction going on. as soon as the earthquake hit the reactors were shut down, therefor stopping all the reactions.

the big problem they are having is keeping the reactor cool because there is still some heat being produced, but nothing similar to if the reactor was still running

same thing with the spent fuel rod pools, the fuel rods themselves are not reacting but they are still producing heat and they are evaporating the water in the pools. in order to keep the pools full they are dropping water on them because they cant pump water up to them.

its still a bad situation, the chances of radiation spreading is still very high but it is not a runaway reaction in the plant.
Mar 17 2011 1:36PM
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