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RubberSoul
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what's the deal with that effect when youre watching an hdtv and everything looks sped up and jittery and way too real.. does it have to do with a 24 to 30 fps pulldown? hopefully someone understands the look i'm talking about
Mar 16 2011 1:14AM
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Funnel
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I know what you're talking about. It almost looks fake, not so much real. I don't know why, but our Vizio doesn't do it but my friend's Samsungs have a bad case of it. It bugs me to watch movies on it. I wish I could help you out. Have you fiddled with the display settings?
Mar 16 2011 1:17AM
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RubberSoul
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luckily i havent had this issue on my own TVs haha, drives me up a wall.. yeah i do bet you can improve it with the tv's settings but it also looks sped up you know?
Mar 16 2011 1:22AM
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Funnel
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Just as I figured, it most-likely has something to do with a 60Hz signal being transmitted and the TV set for a 120Hz signal. What happens is that the TV has to fill in all the gaps, creating those ultra fine lines, making the picture look too real or more like a cartoon. Samsungs seem to be the TVs that have this problem. Solution: turn off "Auto Motion Plus."
Mar 16 2011 1:23AM
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zerospinskier
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I've noticed some TVs make it look like its "live" when it isn't, and I don't know the cause.
Mar 16 2011 1:54AM
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Abc567def
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yea i really don't like watching some movies on HDTV's... it makes it feel like i'm watching reality tv
Mar 16 2011 2:04AM
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japanada
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it has to do with the refresh rate. Higher rates such as 120 and 240 will be much more pronounced. Any good TV has the ability to set the rate lower to combat this, or automatically produce the picture as being 'normal'. It is commonly called the soap opera effect.
Mar 16 2011 2:14AM
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eheath
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Its this. You need to change the 120hz setting from clear to smooth or something, i had to do it with my tv.
Mar 16 2011 2:18AM
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SKETCHY_D
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i work at best buy on some tvs have the refresh rate too make it look like that because alot of people like it for watching sporting events or video games but movies dont look as good. too be honest i dont like it either
Mar 16 2011 2:31AM
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RubberSoul
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yeah i thought it had to do with either the refresh rate or a pulldown. thanks bros, much appreciated
Mar 16 2011 10:32AM
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bangarangmules
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The soap opera effect? If you could explain to me why all soap operas look the way they do I would be grateful. I've always wondered since I was a kid.
Mar 16 2011 12:17PM
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Furrer92
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most soap opera stuff was filmed with cheaper set-ups like 30hz video opposed to higher end broadcasting equipment
Mar 16 2011 12:28PM
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japanada
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b/c most soaps and sitcoms are filmed using 24fps film. You TV is basically trying to show a better image quality than the prog is filmed in.
Mar 16 2011 12:47PM
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eheath
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you mean shot in 60i digital right?
Mar 16 2011 9:00PM
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skier_boy26
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Fucking drives me up the wall when I see movies or TV like that.
Mar 16 2011 9:03PM
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japanada
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To my knowledge most soaps are still shot on 35mm film in 24fps. They say for the amount of taping they do, it is more economical to use film over digital.
Mar 16 2011 11:06PM
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bangarangmules
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Thank you for explaining that to me, one of my life questions has now been checked off.
Mar 16 2011 11:27PM
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TechnoPotamus
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likewise. it blew my mind for so long
Mar 16 2011 11:34PM
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eheath
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That doesn't even make sense, film is WAY more expensive how would it be more economical to use film instead of digital? I just looked up shit real quick and it sounds like they shoot on video tapes, which is "film" but i dont see why a daily tv show would shoot on 35mm film...
Mar 17 2011 6:11PM
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japanada
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Thats what I was thinking. I was baffled.
Mar 17 2011 10:08PM
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