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Alex_G
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Not gonna lie Steve Gadd is the greatest drummer of all time


Mar 15 2011 1:01PM
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.AR6rider.
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Neil Peart would like a word with you.
Mar 15 2011 1:04PM
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Alex_G
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neil peart is awesome and also one of the best but the stuff he plays isn't nearly as groovy or difficult as steve gadd.
Mar 15 2011 1:07PM
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Travapple.
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Mar 15 2011 1:18PM
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Alex_G
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ah, you win^.
Mar 15 2011 1:20PM
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PON3
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this is my favorite drummer. he is not flashy at all. just proper technique.

Mar 15 2011 2:19PM
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thebeesknees
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have you ever even listened to him with rush? they play in some of the weirdest time signatures ever. go get your learn on
Mar 15 2011 2:22PM
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.Tom.
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Benny motherfucking Greb. First minute or so is a bit rubbish but once he gets into his groove its pretty much my favourite piece of drumming evar.


Also the glory and the might that is Mitch Mitchell.

ahhhhhhhhh so much awesome
Mar 15 2011 2:25PM
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corona
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Buddy rich or any drummer to ever play with zappa like terry bozio or vinnie -last name i can't spell- or that greek drummer who plays for that american band who can do like 300 bpm on the base drum with only one petal. Name's aren't my forte. But yea.
Mar 15 2011 2:38PM
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Gnarwall
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Crazy army gives me boners. (thing Gadd was playing towards the beginning). SCV Tearing the same thing to shreds lol.



I just saw weckl with Oz Noy and that was mind blowing. Hes got some skillllls. Garibaldi next week with T.O.P. should be pretty sick too.

Mar 15 2011 4:45PM
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Peter.
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travis barker has to be up there
Mar 15 2011 5:15PM
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Aaaron.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

hahaha, trust me, save yourself some embarrassment and never mention travis barker around any experienced musicians..
Mar 15 2011 5:18PM
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Alex_G
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lol "go get your learn on" ive been listening to rush since i was 12...playing in different time signatures doesn't mean anything besides that you can count and that you can keep up with the guitarist's phrasing. Just because you can play technically difficult stuff doesn't mean you are a good drummer--you gotta play it with steeze and gadd has the best steeze out of any drummer. For example, watch this drumoff between Dave Weckl, Vinnie Calliouta, and Steve Gadd...both weckl and calliouta play really difficult shit in fucked up time signatures but it sounds horrible and has no groove. Gadd on the other hand (3rd Drummer) plays the dankest slapper out of the 3 and makes the whole drumoff come together.


Mar 15 2011 5:26PM
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Anathema
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HUGE rush fan here. 2112 is just too glorious. throw in a little YYZ, Spirit of Radio, Tom Sawyer, oh fuck the list goes on

neil peart is both a class act and one unbelievable drummer. sure, maybe not THE best of all time, but his name is certainly in the mix. very influential, and a very meticulous person. plus, he's written a lot of the lyrics so i have the utmost respect for him and his level of musicianship. plus, how can you not feel for a guy who had once had his only daughter die in a car accident, and wife lose her battle with cancer some 10 months later. nobody should ever have to go through what he did, and to take some personal time, travel north america in an attempt to find some sort of peace, and come back 5 years later only to not have missed a beat almost brings a tear to my eye..

Mar 15 2011 5:26PM
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Alex_G
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travis barker is the most overrated drummer in the history of music. besides ringo but everybody knew he sucked so he wasn't overrated he just got to play with a great band.
Mar 15 2011 5:28PM
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drumbumocdp
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These are a couple of my favorites


Jojo Mayer has the crazy chops, who can also tastefully apply just a groove when necessary. This guys technique is absolutely perfect too. solo starts around a minute


Thomas played with the mars volta for a bit. Gospel chops pretty much sums it up
Mar 15 2011 5:29PM
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Alex_G
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wtf it didn't embed


Mar 15 2011 5:33PM
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Aaaron.
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travis barker single handedly ruined an entire generation of drummers. 

on the real though, it's all about gospel chops.  some of those guys are rediculous.  imho, a nasty gospel/groove drummer can run all over portnoy or peart or any one of those blast beat abusing metal drummers. 

Mar 15 2011 5:34PM
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.Tom.
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Some siiiick videos being posted here, love this thread =D.

Anyway, Steve Jordan. Love this guy cuz he's all about the groove, all about simplicity. I get seriously tired of over the top, usually shit drum solo's, much prefer watching drumming like this.

Mar 15 2011 5:40PM
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fujarome
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hey NS musicians!


I envy all of you. Try as i might, i simply have no musical ability. Oh well. Doesn't stop me from appreciating the work of others.
Mar 15 2011 5:41PM
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drumbumocdp
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This isnt true at all. He inspired many to pick up the drums as an instrument. Blink was an icon of pop punk music. To put into skiing terms, blink was the tanner hall of pop punk.

A lot of people hate on Travis but he has very good traditional training under his belt. Just because he doesnt play in the most technical genre doesnt mean anything. Listen to him live, his timing is impeccable
Mar 15 2011 5:46PM
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Alex_G
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have you ever heard 50 ways to leave your lover? that's steve gadd. way groovier and just as simple.
Mar 15 2011 5:48PM
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drumbumocdp
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groovy gospel
Mar 15 2011 5:52PM
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.Tom.
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I shall listen to this now and report back with my findings.
Mar 15 2011 5:52PM
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Alex_G
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dude are you stupid? anybody who has been drumming for as long as he has better have impeccable timing...all it takes is practicing with a metronome for extended amounts of time-- seriously he's not that impressive and his groove isn't as good as everybody likes to make it out to be. In the end, traditional training really doesn't mean shit--you've gotta have style. and this "give the drummer some" horseshit is stupid. The only drummer who sounds good when he drums like a drum machine is ?uestLove.
Mar 15 2011 5:57PM
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.Tom.
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Pretty sexy but I wouldn't say "way groovier" by any means, love the simplicity so much though. About a million times harder to make what he's playing sound good than what some people take as good drumming.
Mar 15 2011 6:02PM
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Mike-O
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RIP Joe Morello.

Solo starts at 1:48, spectacular.

Mar 15 2011 6:06PM
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Alex_G
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that's what im saying...this is why gadd tops all thank you for affirming my point. it's way harder to make the shit he plays sound good. and when it sounds good it sounds GOOOOOOOOOD
Mar 15 2011 6:10PM
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Anathema
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here's a little musical / american history for you




Mar 15 2011 6:37PM
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notadoctor
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Mar 15 2011 6:40PM
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AWALLRUS.
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thats some good drumming
Mar 15 2011 6:40PM
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Gnarwall
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I like weckl more than Gadd. Then again I'm a marching percussionist so I'm more into syncopated, messed up rhythms.

fave DCI Book



I learned this a few weeks ago.


And heres the Winterline I'm on. Not the most amazing stuff but we didn't have very much time to work on it/ clean it up.




Mar 15 2011 6:47PM
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Alex_G
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thats sweet dude, I honestly like listening to marching music more than watching the football games they play at.
Mar 15 2011 7:08PM
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Gnarwall
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Yeah I'm not a huge football fan, But playing in the band has definitely peaked my interest in it. I want to march with the troopers next summer though, which is a DCI group. Basically you go on a tour for three months during the summer and drum for 14 hours a day. Its a bitch. cant wait.
Mar 15 2011 7:21PM
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drumbumocdp
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lol at the whole paragraph.
Sweet solos all over. I thought about putting up the take 5 one. That solo is soooo tasty
Mar 15 2011 8:56PM
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Arabian.
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Buddy Rich would like a word with you...
Mar 15 2011 9:14PM
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Alex_G
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Buddy Rich is great and is one of the best jazz drummers to ever live. with that said, that's jazz, not everything else. Steve gadd can play that, and everything else.
Mar 17 2011 1:23PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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Gadd is for sure the best. People seem to think that in drumming speed = skill. Obviously it's impressive to play fast, but it doesn't sound good and a monkey could do it if you trained it to. Gadd was a genius at using the percussive instruments he had in front of him to move the listener.

It pisses me off so FUCKING much when someone has a drum set like this:

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Having that many pieces in a drum set shows that the drummer lacks any creativity. Chris Bear of Grizzly Bear is an amazing jazz drummer and he creates beats I've never even considered using a small jazz kit.
Mar 17 2011 1:32PM
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Alex_G
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forreal, or like neal peart's set, his is just straight up ridiculous and unnecessary...but hey i guess somebody has to have that style of drumming as a frame of reference to show that Gadd really is the best.
Mar 17 2011 1:43PM
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Mike-O
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I don't know that much about drumming, but I really do agree with not_a_gangster. It's all about the innate ability to create something memorable with what you got, not about being fast or banging every single hat in a large-ass kit.

My friend Otso (and my band's drummer, so maybe biased) has an amazing sense of rhythm and creativity to match anything we throw at him, and he never practices outside our sessions with an acoustic set. He's kind of like Mickael Deschenaux haha.
Mar 17 2011 1:44PM
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loganC
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Gadd is soooo good. Also I love that Joe Morello solo from "Take 5" it's just unbelievable. My favourite drummer for a while now has to be Danny Carey. He plays so many complex things but in such a smooth fashion.


Post more when I am not studying.

Mar 17 2011 2:04PM
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Alex_G
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wow that guy is talented i'm not a big fan of tool but he knows whats up for sure.
Mar 17 2011 2:33PM
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SONlC
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Mar 17 2011 2:35PM
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Gnarwall
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This guy wrote a beast book.




Mar 17 2011 2:48PM
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tronned
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how is brann not mentioned? one of the best modern day rock drummers bar none.

Mar 17 2011 2:52PM
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.Tom.
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Brann is defo my favourite metal drummer, almost makes Mastodon worth listening to =P. There is some ridiculous drumming on Mastodon tracks though for sure.
Mar 17 2011 3:04PM
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Alex_G
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in my humble opinion, double bass pedals are for pussies.
Mar 17 2011 4:04PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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THANK YOU. They don't sound good unless it's like Yittish Satan Thrash music.
Mar 17 2011 4:17PM
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Gnarwall
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For sure. Dub bass in general is just shitty. the kick drum is supposed to be for punch, not a wall of loud. Weckl did use one extremely well when I saw him though. He played single petal the entire night, except for two beats in his drum solo where he rammed out 32nd notes at like 150bpm in between his tom shenanigans. It caught me off guard so much, because I had no idea he had a double petal.
Mar 17 2011 5:06PM
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ThaLetterM.
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can't believe no one has mentioned Tony Williams yet. Toured with Miles when he was like 17 years old

Mar 17 2011 5:19PM
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Alex_G
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thats sick, if you can play this with one foot you are a boss.


Mar 17 2011 5:23PM
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