PowderPak?!

Lies. I sent them an email about 3 days ago, got a response the next day. Anyways cost is $4 a square foot or something. Would be better off with some nice hardwood floors instead if you ask me. Yes that means that 5' x 10' = $200 without taxes, duties or shipping.

wasn't lying.... it took them two weeks.

Don't buy it.  You still need to use water on powderpak to make it slide.  Use Msnow.  It is actually a little more than powderpak but you don't need to wet it down. 

Heard that msnow messes up your skis/ scratches your bases to shit.

Scratches are superficial.  A quick tune and they are gone.  If you wax your skis every once in awhile to keep your bases from drying out, this will not happen nearly as much.

Also, I read on a British dry slope skiing and snowboarding site that your bases start to smell like over cooked bacon from skiing on Powderpak.  The site was all about the different types of dry slope products and experiences that people had skiing or boarding on them.  I found it while doing research for my splash pool business.  Supposedly, Powderpak heats up your bases to the point where you can't touch them and you are actually cooking the Ptex.

msnow is 8 bucks a foot, its a rip off

im thinkin of makin a PVC drop in ladder....anyone done that?

im thinkin of makin a PVC drop in ladder....anyone done that?

Here's why you're wrong.

I helped my neighbors build their setup.  First we just but turf down but it was too slow.  Then we went with construction fence on top.  It was still too slow.  We tried animal birthing lube on it, which is supposedly the one of the slickest substances known to man. It was still too slow.  The only way we could make it fast enough was to get it very wet and use soap.  The soap made the PVC rail sketchy, and the water turned the ski out into a mud bog.   Mud got on everything and made it slower.   We finally went with plastic lattice on the drop in and almost all the way up to the lip.  Lattice is very fast but too slick to spin off of very well.

We spent a ton of time and money trying to get it figured out and it could still be better.  That was 3 years ago.  You may get lucky and have better results.  You will have to experiment with materials until you get it right.  By the time you get it right you will have paid for Msnow twice.  If you go with Msnow, you do not need to soap it or water it.  No huge water bill and no extra money that you have to spend to prep before jibbing.  It is $6.95 a square foot.

My preference would be to do drop to lip in Msnow and then do the ski off out of lattice with a tarp under it.  You could put lattice down on either side of your rail too so you could ski out even if you came off earlier. 

u actully didnt prove me wrong at all, its still a rip off. its 7 bucks a square foot and plus shipping probably about 7.50 a square foot. i never said it wasnt good, i just said it was expensive. for a normal 15 ft long 5 ft wide backyard setup with all msnow ur looking at around 200 bucks.

I have to agree. It does sound like it would be nice to have.. Just not $200 nice to have.

No hate at all towards either of you guys.  Just saying that you might want to keep track of expenses after you build.  If you have to use water, see what the difference is in your water bill.  If you have to use soap, how much did you spend on that?  Assuming that you start with the same wood structure, you have to cover it with something.  Figure out how much it costs to cover it with turf or powderpak and then add in everything you need to buy in addition to make it work.  Then compare that to $200 worth of Msnow.  Having gone through this before, I am convinced that you will ultimately end up spending more for something that never works nearly as well.